Where can I buy high quality imperial tools?

Where can I buy high quality imperial tools?

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Noesph

1,151 posts

149 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
nessiemac said:
Not just Boeing, Airbus are imperial as well.
How does that work, what with them being French to a significant extent?
Agustawestland are imperial too. But anyway, the company should be supplying you with tools. Where I work they don't really want anyone bringing in outside tools as everything has to be calibrated and listed on the system.

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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teamHOLDENracing said:
Am I the only one hoping never to fly on a Boeing part built by the bloke who doesn't know where to buy his tools?
Hmmmm. I also work on aircraft and cannot think of one person I work with who doesn't know where to buy tools from. Although the OP maybe just starting out? If just starting out then I'd stick to eBay second hand snap on or craftsman. The cost will go sky high if buying new snap on. Then I'd be asking colleagues for help.




Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Noesph said:
Agustawestland are imperial too. But anyway, the company should be supplying you with tools. Where I work they don't really want anyone bringing in outside tools as everything has to be calibrated and listed on the system.
This depends on where you work and what you're doing. With PMI and tool control you have a point but I've worked with my own tools many more times than using supplied tools.

robinessex

11,059 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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nessiemac said:
lee_erm said:
Definitely uses imperial bolts.

Not just Boeing, Airbus are imperial as well.
Really? I did design work on Airbus, and all the bolts we used were metric. Of course, Boeing also work in imperial measurement as well!

PositronicRay

27,019 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Try Cromwell.
https://www.cromwell.co.uk/

It's all counter service really helpful knowledgeable guys. They even split a socket set for me when an unusual size I wanted was out of stock.

The website is a bit of a nightmare so if you haven't a local branch give them a call.



Slidingpillar

761 posts

136 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Pop along to your local scout/church jumble sale. Shed-loads of good imperial tools turn up at these, buy them and get known as the bloke who buys old spanners. You'll offered more later once you known.

I now have a collection which would probably do three people, one of whom was maintaining a traction engine - I've some monster whitworths. But it is useful having alternatives as the spanner size of old nuts and bolts do vary, and thus although a nut may be 3/4" whit, the best spanner to use may be only one of several you have.

I put sets together from time to time, and resell them to folk with old cars. (Not a profit making business).

hacksaw

750 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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robinessex said:
Really? I did design work on Airbus, and all the bolts we used were metric. Of course, Boeing also work in imperial measurement as well!
Really?. Amongst other jobs, I spent two years working on the A380 final assembly lines in Finkenwerder and Blagnac working for Airbus Deutschland and I can honestly say I never used a metric sized spanner.

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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hacksaw said:
Really?. Amongst other jobs, I spent two years working on the A380 final assembly lines in Finkenwerder and Blagnac working for Airbus Deutschland and I can honestly say I never used a metric sized spanner.
Wow. No wonder we all made a few £££ in Blagnac. The designers were working in metric and the engineers were working in imperial. Someone should make a program about this.... Oh they did... JIMBO!

hidetheelephants

24,357 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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hacksaw said:
robinessex said:
Really? I did design work on Airbus, and all the bolts we used were metric. Of course, Boeing also work in imperial measurement as well!
Really?. Amongst other jobs, I spent two years working on the A380 final assembly lines in Finkenwerder and Blagnac working for Airbus Deutschland and I can honestly say I never used a metric sized spanner.
Fasteners having imperial heads does not mean the thread is imperial, non-standard sizes are sometimes specified to reduce the likelihood of unauthorised fiddling; do we have any Airbus types who can comment definitively?

hacksaw

750 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Jamesgt said:
hacksaw said:
Really?. Amongst other jobs, I spent two years working on the A380 final assembly lines in Finkenwerder and Blagnac working for Airbus Deutschland and I can honestly say I never used a metric sized spanner.
Wow. No wonder we all made a few £££ in Blagnac. The designers were working in metric and the engineers were working in imperial. Someone should make a program about this.... Oh they did... JIMBO!
My favourite was why I was installing brackets to the inside of a door frame. An engineer was noseying around, points to a bracket fitted to the frame and asked me how I welded it on! Bemused, I looked at him and patiently explained it was riveted. He then pointed again and said no it's welded, look at the splatter around the rivet head. It was actually a bonded bracket that had been prc'd and then painted blue. Which I explained to him. His answer, I've never worked on aircraft before, I was at Aston Martin before I came here........

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Airbus drawings specify metric size holes and measurements. Tooling is imperial though with maybe the exception of reamers, drills etc... This is in my experience only though.

hacksaw

750 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Jamesgt said:
Airbus drawings specify metric size holes and measurements. Tooling is imperial though with maybe the exception of reamers, drills etc... This is in my experience only though.
Exactly.

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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There were some seriously bad engineers working for them who didn't have a clue. I hear the German agencies employed anyone. A bit like Bostonair wink so I hear.....

hacksaw said:
My favourite was why I was installing brackets to the inside of a door frame. An engineer was noseying around, points to a bracket fitted to the frame and asked me how I welded it on! Bemused, I looked at him and patiently explained it was riveted. He then pointed again and said no it's welded, look at the splatter around the rivet head. It was actually a bonded bracket that had been prc'd and then painted blue. Which I explained to him. His answer, I've never worked on aircraft before, I was at Aston Martin before I came here........

hacksaw

750 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Jamesgt said:
There were some seriously bad engineers working for them who didn't have a clue. I hear the German agencies employed anyone. A bit like Bostonair wink so I hear.....

hacksaw said:
My favourite was why I was installing brackets to the inside of a door frame. An engineer was noseying around, points to a bracket fitted to the frame and asked me how I welded it on! Bemused, I looked at him and patiently explained it was riveted. He then pointed again and said no it's welded, look at the splatter around the rivet head. It was actually a bonded bracket that had been prc'd and then painted blue. Which I explained to him. His answer, I've never worked on aircraft before, I was at Aston Martin before I came here........
I worked for resource out there, although you probably guessed that. Don't know about German agencies employing bengals, I think plenty of agencies have been guilty of that, including a rather large uk based one.

You know what these agencies are like, only employee idiots who've never worked in the industry, load of young kids behind desks with no idea, always looking to rip off the connie.

Never heard of Bostonair....

Edited by hacksaw on Saturday 28th November 19:37

longshot

3,286 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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I can only really speak from the engines side but in my experience everything is imperial even down to the jigs and fixtures. Imperial threads and imperial measurements.

Mixing the 2 sounds like a recipe for disaster.

LimaDelta

6,522 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Fill yer boots...

http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/search.aspx?CATE...

I also bought a nice small Wera set to carry around which I love.

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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hacksaw said:
Never heard of Bostonair....

Edited by hacksaw on Saturday 28th November 19:37
Forgive me. There is a Nick Harrison from up North I know who worked at airbus and then moved on to working in the Office at Bostonair.

Shame the Airbus gravy train has slowed down. The A350 wasn't like the A380 easy ride.

hacksaw

750 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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It's the same one, I just try not to advertise too much. Guess I know you of old?

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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hacksaw said:
It's the same one, I just try not to advertise too much. Guess I know you of old?
You have mail

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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The Tool Connection Limited
Kineton Road
Southam
Warwickshire
CV47 0DR
United Kingdom
that's where they are . I don't know if the management has changed, but when I was involved it the telecoms/datacomms installation, the MD drove a TVR, and was petrol head. GREAT GUY. I also found the blokes on site equally great. I'd acquired a torque wrench from a dubious source. It turned out that they'd had several which failed spec, and without calibration had to scrap them. (Else Trading standards would get up set) .But with calibration, I should take mine in and they'd do it FOC.