Big family car - Skoda Superb or??
Discussion
liner33 said:
Fastdruid said:
Irrelevant. The Mk4 Mondeo is much larger than the Mk3 (which a 2004 would be).
The Mondeo when it came out was 3-series size, now it's 5-series size while other cars (such as the Octavia) are still 3-series size.
Are you sure the Mondeo is larger than the Octavia? The Mondeo when it came out was 3-series size, now it's 5-series size while other cars (such as the Octavia) are still 3-series size.
The Golf = Focus = Astra = Mazda 3 = BMW 3 series = Audi A4 = Jag XE = Merc C class inside.
The Superb is a less fun-loving equivalent of the Passatt = V70 = XF = 5 series = A6 = E class
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Also the Superb is also a Golf
Fastdruid said:
Yes.
2013+ Skoda Octavia Estate:
Length 4659 mm
Width 2017 mm
Height 1465 mm
2014+ Ford Mondeo Estate
Length 4867 mm
Width 2121 mm
Height 1501 mm
And for comparison
2015+ Skoda Superb Estate
Length 4856 mm
Width 2031 mm
Height ????mm
Oh yes external dimensions but compare internal room (not much in it ) and the Octavia is quite a bit larger on luggage room than the Mondeo. My mate has a Mondeo and I have a Octavia and had a Superb up until March 2013+ Skoda Octavia Estate:
Length 4659 mm
Width 2017 mm
Height 1465 mm
2014+ Ford Mondeo Estate
Length 4867 mm
Width 2121 mm
Height 1501 mm
And for comparison
2015+ Skoda Superb Estate
Length 4856 mm
Width 2031 mm
Height ????mm
Also the Superb is also a Golf
So after recommendations on here I had a quick poke around the new mondeo at my local showroom today. It is indeed very large inside and the boot is cavernous. With seat in optimal driving position I could just about sit comfortably in the back so would be fine for my kids in their seats too I think.
In my vet unscientific approach I would say there is very little in it between the mondeo and the superb in terms of legroom. Maybe the superb just edges it but not much in it. The superb feels more
Luxurious though and therefore somehow feels bigger inside. The mondeo is nice and has loads of cool tech ( the digital speedo is brilliant) but I think the Skoda would be the nicer place to be for a long drive..,
At similar prices I am leaning towards the superb but I haven't driven either one yet.
In my vet unscientific approach I would say there is very little in it between the mondeo and the superb in terms of legroom. Maybe the superb just edges it but not much in it. The superb feels more
Luxurious though and therefore somehow feels bigger inside. The mondeo is nice and has loads of cool tech ( the digital speedo is brilliant) but I think the Skoda would be the nicer place to be for a long drive..,
At similar prices I am leaning towards the superb but I haven't driven either one yet.
gashead1105 said:
oldcynic said:
V70 fits the bill because the rear seats are set further back than in the Octavia. It's not simply about how big the car is but about how it's laid out.
I've mentioned elsewhere that I love my V70, and it's a great family car.
Yup, agree with all of this. You don't need r design either, we have an SE with the 175 hp 5 cylinder diesel and I'm glad I saved the money compared to the equivalent r design. Black leather hides stains better than 2 tone and it's not a slow car by any means. I wouldn't want bigger wheels etc either.I've mentioned elsewhere that I love my V70, and it's a great family car.
Also, and I've said this before, volvo seats are amazing.
However, built-in booster seats are great when the little ones are able to use them, but that's not really a good enough reason to get one.
Also, and I've said this before, I don't understand the love of Volvo seats. They're OK, but flat and lack any side support. After an hour or so I keep wanting to shift.
drgoatboy said:
So after recommendations on here I had a quick poke around the new mondeo at my local showroom today. It is indeed very large inside and the boot is cavernous. With seat in optimal driving position I could just about sit comfortably in the back so would be fine for my kids in their seats too I think.
In my vet unscientific approach I would say there is very little in it between the mondeo and the superb in terms of legroom. Maybe the superb just edges it but not much in it. The superb feels more
Luxurious though and therefore somehow feels bigger inside. The mondeo is nice and has loads of cool tech ( the digital speedo is brilliant) but I think the Skoda would be the nicer place to be for a long drive..,
At similar prices I am leaning towards the superb but I haven't driven either one yet.
Please tell me you've at least looked at Mazda 6. Nicer interior than the Mondeo (IMO).In my vet unscientific approach I would say there is very little in it between the mondeo and the superb in terms of legroom. Maybe the superb just edges it but not much in it. The superb feels more
Luxurious though and therefore somehow feels bigger inside. The mondeo is nice and has loads of cool tech ( the digital speedo is brilliant) but I think the Skoda would be the nicer place to be for a long drive..,
At similar prices I am leaning towards the superb but I haven't driven either one yet.
As I said on page 1, I owned a mk2 Superb for years then got a Mazda 6 tourer. The legroom in the 6 is far below the Superb or new Mondeo. The Mondeo is itself quite a lot tighter on leg room than a mk3 Superb. I have sat in both several times. I can easily sit behind a driver seat set for myself (comfortably) in the Superb, with room to stretch a bit. In the back of the Mondeo though I can only manage to have a leg either side of the driver's seat, with knees up in the air. Shame really, as I love the comfy driver's seat in the new Mondeo!
To reiterate, if the rear leg room is the priority I doubt you'll want the 6 tourer. Go and see one for yourself to be sure.
To reiterate, if the rear leg room is the priority I doubt you'll want the 6 tourer. Go and see one for yourself to be sure.
yellowbentines said:
External dimensions dont tell the whole story.
I have both an E Class estate and a Skoda Superb saloon on the drive, if its legroom you want (front and rear) the Skoda wins by a mile, though from the outside the E Class is bigger.
Does your Supereb have the clever boot/hatch? If so how do you find it? This sounds like a really good idea but I've never heard an owners opinionI have both an E Class estate and a Skoda Superb saloon on the drive, if its legroom you want (front and rear) the Skoda wins by a mile, though from the outside the E Class is bigger.
Arquettes said:
My elderly father has a Superb mk2 estate , vast amount of rear legroom but the ride quality is appalling , tyre wear very heavy and the boot is surprisingly narrow , he preferred his old Kangoo combi!
Which wheels? My mk2 still had wear left in all four tyres after the first 35k miles! EcoContact 3s iirc. Ride quality suffering and fast tyre wear might suggest the rubber is at fault, or maybe even suspension components? Just a thought.Easternlight said:
Does your Supereb have the clever boot/hatch? If so how do you find it? This sounds like a really good idea but I've never heard an owners opinion
Ours had the twindoor but its been dropped on the latest version Pro's and Con's, it it really useful especially the auto open (as a boot) when pressing the fob , great when you are loaded with shopping , its a cavernous boot and little things like the cabin staying warm on cold days whilst you get your cases out if nice , gives a great deal of flexibility as well with the seats going down (NOT flat) and the massive hatch
We replaced an W210 E class estate when we bought the Superb and never wanted for space even camping in France
BUT , that flexibility relies on a loom of cable to negotiate the hatch and boot and these are starting to fail on older cars , ours was becoming troublesome with random light failures in the boot (the reversing lights are there) so its worth checking on older cars , I think its about £800 for the loom , we just traded it as it was 6 years old anyhow
With small kids, especially babies get a used minivan, prefferably with sliding rear doors. No need to crouch down and nail the kids head everytime you put her in/take her out of the car, no worries about banging other cars with your doors in tight parking lots, room in the boot to chuck the stroller in without the need to fold it up/take it apart every time etc.etc. Speed limits averywhere, small kids in the back, you will not be rallying any car around. Look at the Mazda 5, S-Max and the likes.
flatso said:
With small kids, especially babies get a used minivan, prefferably with sliding rear doors. No need to crouch down and nail the kids head everytime you put her in/take her out of the car, no worries about banging other cars with your doors in tight parking lots, room in the boot to chuck the stroller in without the need to fold it up/take it apart every time etc.etc. Speed limits averywhere, small kids in the back, you will not be rallying any car around. Look at the Mazda 5, S-Max and the likes.
I just couldn't bring myself to do it... I have kids but have not (yet) lost the will to live. flatso said:
With small kids, especially babies get a used minivan, prefferably with sliding rear doors. No need to crouch down and nail the kids head everytime you put her in/take her out of the car, no worries about banging other cars with your doors in tight parking lots, room in the boot to chuck the stroller in without the need to fold it up/take it apart every time etc.etc. Speed limits averywhere, small kids in the back, you will not be rallying any car around. Look at the Mazda 5, S-Max and the likes.
You mean just like the advantages of an estate without having given up on life?I'm just coming to the end of a 4 year lease on a Mk 2 Superb Estate Elegance 170 TDI with DSG box.
It is truly huge inside and and the rear legroom surpasses any other car I have sat in. It's narrower than most recent D segment cars but you wouldn't notice inside. The kit on the Elegance is everything you could want including the electric seats with memory. It is pretty well screwed together although it is beginning to show its age with the odd rattle here and there. Over the life of the car I've just scraped 40mpg average - measured using the brim the tank method and recorded every fill-up - sad I know
. That does include some towing though. Tyres have lasted around 15,000 miles for fronts and maybe 20,000 for rears. Ride quality is pretty decent IMO and body roll reasonably well contained for such a large and heavy car. It's no GTi but can be hustled along when required.
The only thing I've never got on with properly is the seats - they are VERY firm. It took me a long time to get them adjusted to a comfortable setting although I am a) short (5'5") and b) fidget constantly in most car seats - taller drivers apparently get on better although the seat pan is quite short. The steering wheel doesn't adjust enough for my preferences but it's OK.
I really like the DSG gearbox which is, IMO, better than the Ford Powershift (I test drove a Mondeo as well when choosing this car). I specified paddles but rarely use them so they aren't essential. Sport Mode is pretty good and down-shifts as you brake rather than waiting for you to hit the throttle.
The electric boot open/close is nice but, annoyingly, beeps when you open it remotely and there is no way to switch them off - don't know if that is different in the Mk3.
All in all I would recommend it but make sure you really are comfortable in the seats and that the steering wheel adjusts enough for you.
It is truly huge inside and and the rear legroom surpasses any other car I have sat in. It's narrower than most recent D segment cars but you wouldn't notice inside. The kit on the Elegance is everything you could want including the electric seats with memory. It is pretty well screwed together although it is beginning to show its age with the odd rattle here and there. Over the life of the car I've just scraped 40mpg average - measured using the brim the tank method and recorded every fill-up - sad I know
. That does include some towing though. Tyres have lasted around 15,000 miles for fronts and maybe 20,000 for rears. Ride quality is pretty decent IMO and body roll reasonably well contained for such a large and heavy car. It's no GTi but can be hustled along when required.The only thing I've never got on with properly is the seats - they are VERY firm. It took me a long time to get them adjusted to a comfortable setting although I am a) short (5'5") and b) fidget constantly in most car seats - taller drivers apparently get on better although the seat pan is quite short. The steering wheel doesn't adjust enough for my preferences but it's OK.
I really like the DSG gearbox which is, IMO, better than the Ford Powershift (I test drove a Mondeo as well when choosing this car). I specified paddles but rarely use them so they aren't essential. Sport Mode is pretty good and down-shifts as you brake rather than waiting for you to hit the throttle.
The electric boot open/close is nice but, annoyingly, beeps when you open it remotely and there is no way to switch them off - don't know if that is different in the Mk3.
All in all I would recommend it but make sure you really are comfortable in the seats and that the steering wheel adjusts enough for you.
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