New Fiesta is a bit scary in slippery and wet conditions

New Fiesta is a bit scary in slippery and wet conditions

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the_stoat

504 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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If the car is new to him has he checked the tyre pressures as if to high and on Eco tyres could give the handling described. Had this on a hire car that had over 50 psi on each tyre.

BigMon

4,197 posts

130 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I've got the bog standard 100bhp Ecoboost and I think the handling is superb!

The tyres aren't the best in the wet (especially on things like manhole covers) but I've never found it to be a problem.

I don't drive it slowly either!

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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the_stoat said:
If the car is new to him has he checked the tyre pressures as if to high and on Eco tyres could give the handling described. Had this on a hire car that had over 50 psi on each tyre.
This ^^^^^^

Benbay001

5,801 posts

158 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Driving smoothly is the fastest way to drive. When its wet its just much more apparent how important being smooth is.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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treetops said:
Fiesta not a sports car.
Even a sports car will slide around if you drive it fast in the wet. I don't know what else the OP was expecting?

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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We had a '58 plate fiesta, the original bridgestone? tyres were st in the wet.

MC Bodge

21,634 posts

176 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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neil1jnr said:
If it's the ST tell him to get a set of Uniroyal Rainsport 3's
They are really good, even if it is not an ST...

Even the Rain Experts are superb on my wife's Fabia -The grip and handling, wet and dry, are very acceptable.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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What Fiesta does your mate have OP?

If it's anything other than the ST, it's not exactly made for caning it along wet country lanes.

MC Bodge

21,634 posts

176 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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MrBarry123 said:
What Fiesta does your mate have OP?

If it's anything other than the ST, it's not exactly made for caning it along wet country lanes.
Eh??

If anything, something softer/more compliant will be more forgiving on a wet country lane.

Fiestas are made for that kind of thing.

GuyW

1,072 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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100% the driver.

iloveboost

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1,531 posts

163 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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MC Bodge said:
I think manufacturers make their cars "pointy" on initial turn-in to provide a sense of "sportiness", but are often a bit too firmly sprung/damped for bumps in bends as a result.

I would suggest that the vast majority of drivers make sharp inputs and never really learn not to, the "sharpness" of the car givIng a false sense of being close to the limit. The subsequent lifting off sharply contributing further to the sensation.

Only a small majority, the "naturally-gifted" or people who have spent a lot of time trying to be smooth, drive around keeping the car settled and using only minimal inputs -the things that give me the most satisfaction from driving these days, not only when getting a move on.

I'l admit I that In the old days it was all about stomping on the loud pedal & brakes and yanking on the wheel wink
This is 100% what I think the car is setup like, and what I think he's doing is over-driving a bit in dodgy conditions without realising it. Obviously the rough ride, stiff roll stiffness and short wheelbase make the effect of over-driving a bit far worse.

iloveboost

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1,531 posts

163 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Hooli said:
We had a '58 plate fiesta, the original bridgestone? tyres were st in the wet.
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iloveboost

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1,531 posts

163 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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the_stoat said:
If the car is new to him has he checked the tyre pressures as if to high and on Eco tyres could give the handling described. Had this on a hire car that had over 50 psi on each tyre.
He doesn't have a digital gauge, but he checked the next morning after I was a passenger with a foot pump gauge. 32/33 psi the front, 25/26 psi for the rear. Exactly right according to the manual.

Samjeev

725 posts

122 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Got the 125 bhp 1.0 Ecoboost Zetec S myself but I never thought it to handle badly or slip in the wet. Its easy to get the wheels spinning if you really try to but other than that i've never felt it handled unexpectedly over camber changes or bumps. Maybe the boost from the turbo is what he feels is a weird delay from the throttle? to be honest it's a bit of fun to play with the 1.8k RPM spool up and go from driving slowly to having a bit of a kick of torque all within legal limits.

Driving to/from work each day I feel a lot more comfortable driving the Fiesta over bumps and pot holes at speed than I do a stiff track set up car. I hate to think what your friend would think of a car with a rigid chassis (with RWD and no Traction control!) and stiff suspension.

Sorry smile