Fastest you can go for £3500
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I love Saabs, ive had 5... And in certain cases I wholeheartedly recommend them.
But....
This forum is getting a bit silly about them at the minute, every single thread someone recommends an old Saab. They're good at what they do, but not always a good suggestion for every single situation. I've always liked them myself but Im not quite sure what the current obsession is all about.
But....
This forum is getting a bit silly about them at the minute, every single thread someone recommends an old Saab. They're good at what they do, but not always a good suggestion for every single situation. I've always liked them myself but Im not quite sure what the current obsession is all about.
Ghost91 said:
I love Saabs, ive had 5... And in certain cases I wholeheartedly recommend them.
But....
This forum is getting a bit silly about them at the minute, every single thread someone recommends an old Saab. They're good at what they do, but not always a good suggestion for every single situation. I've always liked them myself but Im not quite sure what the current obsession is all about.
It's the new MX5But....
This forum is getting a bit silly about them at the minute, every single thread someone recommends an old Saab. They're good at what they do, but not always a good suggestion for every single situation. I've always liked them myself but Im not quite sure what the current obsession is all about.
aka_kerrly said:
What's this obsession with straight line speed and powerful FWD Saabs all about, no one does 1/4 mile standing starts on the road, very rarely would you do more than 0-30mph pulling away from lights or 40mph>70mph down a slip road. A car with circa 200hp that can perform overtakes in NSL limits and gives you the opportunity to run flat through 2nd an 3rd gear is FAR more fun in most cases than any luxo barge with really long gearing.
If back seats are only a small requirement then why even consider a Saab 9000/9-5 , Jaguar XJRs and other tanks that happen to have enough power to make them appear fast in a straight line - even though on the inside they are loaded with ten tonnes of sound deadening and largely mask their speed.
The OP was on the right lines with his opening post, things like RX8s, Celica GT4, 200SX, Skylines, Fiat Coupe Turbo, honda Integra DC2, Corrado VR6, Alfa GTV v6, Boxsters or maybe a Z3/4 would in my opinion be far more entertaining every day than spending 90% of your time in a Saab wishing/waiting for an opportunity to be able to stamp on the accelerator an feel like the big man.
You were lucky with your corrado vr6 though, if went to the vw section and said i want to buy a vr6 my budget is £3500 you know people would be saying it will need work.If back seats are only a small requirement then why even consider a Saab 9000/9-5 , Jaguar XJRs and other tanks that happen to have enough power to make them appear fast in a straight line - even though on the inside they are loaded with ten tonnes of sound deadening and largely mask their speed.
The OP was on the right lines with his opening post, things like RX8s, Celica GT4, 200SX, Skylines, Fiat Coupe Turbo, honda Integra DC2, Corrado VR6, Alfa GTV v6, Boxsters or maybe a Z3/4 would in my opinion be far more entertaining every day than spending 90% of your time in a Saab wishing/waiting for an opportunity to be able to stamp on the accelerator an feel like the big man.
Same story with the boxsters , £3500 very much buyer beware.
There's value in french/jap chav hatches
Bradley1500 said:
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo may be worth a look.
0-60 in 5.2 seconds and once you’ve taken off the Japanese speed limiter they should see 160MPH+. Plus being a turbo there's potential of a lot more power should you want it.
The prices are rising but currently £3.5K should bag a good one.
I was actually looking at one of these a while back. However I was told by a reliable mechanic to not touch one with a barge pole. Aparently they are waaay to complicated for their age and are neigh impossible to fix once everything starts to go wrong.0-60 in 5.2 seconds and once you’ve taken off the Japanese speed limiter they should see 160MPH+. Plus being a turbo there's potential of a lot more power should you want it.
The prices are rising but currently £3.5K should bag a good one.
aka_kerrly said:
What's this obsession with straight line speed and powerful FWD Saabs all about, no one does 1/4 mile standing starts on the road, very rarely would you do more than 0-30mph pulling away from lights or 40mph>70mph down a slip road. A car with circa 200hp that can perform overtakes in NSL limits and gives you the opportunity to run flat through 2nd an 3rd gear is FAR more fun in most cases than any luxo barge with really long gearing.
If back seats are only a small requirement then why even consider a Saab 9000/9-5 , Jaguar XJRs and other tanks that happen to have enough power to make them appear fast in a straight line - even though on the inside they are loaded with ten tonnes of sound deadening and largely mask their speed.
The OP was on the right lines with his opening post, things like RX8s, Celica GT4, 200SX, Skylines, Fiat Coupe Turbo, honda Integra DC2, Corrado VR6, Alfa GTV v6, Boxsters or maybe a Z3/4 would in my opinion be far more entertaining every day than spending 90% of your time in a Saab wishing/waiting for an opportunity to be able to stamp on the accelerator an feel like the big man.
No, they are fast. Even at a whopping 1800kg (for comparison a Golf R weighs nearly 1400kg!) my XJ still has 222bhp/ton. Considerably more than many of the options listed in your third paragraph.If back seats are only a small requirement then why even consider a Saab 9000/9-5 , Jaguar XJRs and other tanks that happen to have enough power to make them appear fast in a straight line - even though on the inside they are loaded with ten tonnes of sound deadening and largely mask their speed.
The OP was on the right lines with his opening post, things like RX8s, Celica GT4, 200SX, Skylines, Fiat Coupe Turbo, honda Integra DC2, Corrado VR6, Alfa GTV v6, Boxsters or maybe a Z3/4 would in my opinion be far more entertaining every day than spending 90% of your time in a Saab wishing/waiting for an opportunity to be able to stamp on the accelerator an feel like the big man.
egor110 said:
You were lucky with your corrado vr6 though, if went to the vw section and said i want to buy a vr6 my budget is £3500 you know people would be saying it will need work.
Same story with the boxsters , £3500 very much buyer beware.
There's value in french/jap chav hatches
Lucky? Perhaps my views are screwed as I've done my research & I'm not scared of picking up the spanners and doing work myself! Same story with the boxsters , £3500 very much buyer beware.
There's value in french/jap chav hatches
There are plenty of VR6s for under £3500, id be hoping to find a supercharged VR6 if i were spending that money.
In my opinion the people that will say that they all need work probably don't know a great deal about them, bought a wreck or have read the scary guides that talk about £1500-2000 for a clutch an timing chain swap yet never owned one.
I agree that there are plenty of good hot hatches for the money that will be a fair few years younger than a Corrado/similar 90s coupes which for the average owner who is not likely to be doing their own maintenance or aware of developing faults will prove far more reliable/easier to own.
I'm a big fan of EP3 Civic type Rs for having a good turn of speed but more so a sensation of speed/agility which Saabs/Volvos/Xjs can't get near! I didn't really get on with 1*2 Clios but can see why others like them.
Kenny6868 said:
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Audi S8
Enough change to fill her up once or twice
That. Or this:Audi S8
Enough change to fill her up once or twice
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Very good shouts with the modded and mapped Seat Cupra or MR2 turbos, residuals haven't started to creep up too much, yet.
You may be able to get a classic modded Impreza at that price but you'll have to look long and hard and it will probably be a ticking time bomb and definitely no oil painting!
Off the line and to 60 there's not much at around that price range better than the Impreza.......or a bike!
If you are looking for top end....go with the Jags that have been mentioned.
You may be able to get a classic modded Impreza at that price but you'll have to look long and hard and it will probably be a ticking time bomb and definitely no oil painting!
Off the line and to 60 there's not much at around that price range better than the Impreza.......or a bike!
If you are looking for top end....go with the Jags that have been mentioned.
LimaDelta said:
No, they are fast. Even at a whopping 1800kg (for comparison a Golf R weighs nearly 1400kg!) my XJ still has 222bhp/ton. Considerably more than many of the options listed in your third paragraph.
I didn't say the XJ isn't fast, more so it conceals it's speed well and I'm off the opinion that ultimate straight line speed is something I am happy to sacrifice in order to have a car that is more enjoyable in more situations.aka_kerrly said:
LimaDelta said:
No, they are fast. Even at a whopping 1800kg (for comparison a Golf R weighs nearly 1400kg!) my XJ still has 222bhp/ton. Considerably more than many of the options listed in your third paragraph.
I didn't say the XJ isn't fast, more so it conceals it's speed well and I'm off the opinion that ultimate straight line speed is something I am happy to sacrifice in order to have a car that is more enjoyable in more situations.trickywoo said:
Not a bad shout. A miley e60 545i could be had for this and will do 170mph derestricted.
It'll also do you for £3-5k if the valve stem seals go and you don't have 20 hours to rebuild the engine. If you're picking one up for sub £4k it's a pretty stacked deck to be taking a punt on!LimaDelta said:
aka_kerrly said:
LimaDelta said:
No, they are fast. Even at a whopping 1800kg (for comparison a Golf R weighs nearly 1400kg!) my XJ still has 222bhp/ton. Considerably more than many of the options listed in your third paragraph.
I didn't say the XJ isn't fast, more so it conceals it's speed well and I'm off the opinion that ultimate straight line speed is something I am happy to sacrifice in order to have a car that is more enjoyable in more situations.LimaDelta said:
aka_kerrly said:
LimaDelta said:
No, they are fast. Even at a whopping 1800kg (for comparison a Golf R weighs nearly 1400kg!) my XJ still has 222bhp/ton. Considerably more than many of the options listed in your third paragraph.
I didn't say the XJ isn't fast, more so it conceals it's speed well and I'm off the opinion that ultimate straight line speed is something I am happy to sacrifice in order to have a car that is more enjoyable in more situations.0-60
top speed
point to point
Benbay001 said:
e said in comparison to 0-60. Which is true. A veyron has similar 0-60 as a zxr1400 but a top speed 50mph higher
Bingo...bikes' high speed performance is relatively poor for exactly the same reason a 7-style kitcar's is poor. Their performance is all about low weight, they just aren't that powerful and don't have particularly good aerodynamics (although helped somewhat by the smaller frontal area). Like for like (power:weight wise) heavy cars will obviously be massively faster at the speeds where power:drag becomes more important than power:weight.Point is that it hardly matters as on most racetracks and on the road you just don't need that much top speed. The fact that my kitcar tops out at 130mph is no more inhibiting than the fact that my bikes both top out at around 160mph.
LimaDelta said:
Generally a combination of A and B results in C. Does this really need to be spelled out?
Not if the road inbetween those 2 points is rather twisty. It's a valid point to question whether "fast" also includes being able to go round corners quickly. We describe a lap as "fastest" if the average speed is the highest, not just based on who went the fastest on the straight.Edited by T0MMY on Tuesday 1st December 18:04
LimaDelta said:
egor110 said:
Define fast :
0-60
top speed
point to point
0-60
top speed
point to point
OED said:
Moving or capable of moving at high speed
Generally a combination of A and B results in C. Does this really need to be spelled out?Which something that is , is different for everyone.
You might want a car that does 140mph despite the fact your rarely if ever going to , I might want a car that gets up to 60 as quick as possible because it's more usable day to day.
There is no wrong or right answer.
egor110 said:
Yes because on a limited budget something has to give.
Which something that is , is different for everyone.
You might want a car that does 140mph despite the fact your rarely if ever going to , I might want a car that gets up to 60 as quick as possible because it's more usable day to day.
There is no wrong or right answer.
Which something that is , is different for everyone.
You might want a car that does 140mph despite the fact your rarely if ever going to , I might want a car that gets up to 60 as quick as possible because it's more usable day to day.
There is no wrong or right answer.
But the two are not mutually exclusive? Plenty of the cars listed will do a sub 5 second 0-60 and continue on to 170mph+. Generally not the hot hatches though...Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff