Future Tech in Cars

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Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Catatafish said:
There would just be many cars randomly flashing their lights after a few swipes to clean off after random puddles, other cars washing screens ahead etc. They aren't just used in rain and darkness.
Sj
When it rains in the day and you can't see other cars without lights on, you need to hand in your keys and take public transport.
No there wouldn't be, anything above intermittent, I.e the first push up of
The stalk, not the pull foward for washer jets or a tap down for a single wipe,


So you can see a silver car on a motorway in heavy rain with heavy spray just fine without lights can you?

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
You illustrate my point perfectly smile Line in will always work, on every device, in every car, because it's SIMPLE.
Too much tech for tech's sake, rather than practical solutions.
BMWs allow bluetooth paring from your phone to the car. I can play my entire catalogue, or anything from Spotify through the car's stereo - and control it all through iDrive. It's as simple, if not more simple than a line-in cable.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Somewhere on the dash that any aftermarket satnav fits in so you are A) not tied to a really expensive factory satnav and B) don't have to have the thing stuck to a window, they could put the 12v socket somewhere so you do have 2 meters of cable flapping around the car.

I'd also like Letch Assist, so I can perv on the move and the little velvet glove that comes out of the lower dash of Range Rovers to stroke the driver off making him/her forget about all the breakdowns.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Ares said:
CrutyRammers said:
You illustrate my point perfectly smile Line in will always work, on every device, in every car, because it's SIMPLE.
Too much tech for tech's sake, rather than practical solutions.
BMWs allow bluetooth paring from your phone to the car. I can play my entire catalogue, or anything from Spotify through the car's stereo - and control it all through iDrive. It's as simple, if not more simple than a line-in cable.
Good grief. No, it isn't simpler than plugging in a cable, because you have to know about how bluetooth pairing works, and how to set it up on two systems (the car and the phone). And just because it works with *your* phone, it doesn't mean it works with all phones. And not with any mp3 players or other devices which don't have bluetooth. Whereas a Cable. Works. With. Everything.

article from earlier this year said:
J.D. Power's annual Vehicle Dependability Study, released Wednesday, found that 55 percent of drivers surveyed about their 3-year-old vehicles said the Bluetooth system does not recognize their phone. Separately, 31 percent said their phone does not automatically connect to their car when they get inside. Bluetooth did not respond to a request for comment.

"Bluetooth and voice recognition systems not working are the top two problems vehicle owners are reporting after three years of having their cars," said Renee Stephens, vice president of U.S. Automotive for J.D. Power. "They are tired of this technology not working in their cars."
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/25/car-owners-fed-up-w...

I am not against technology, I want practical solutions which work, not technological masterbation that only works for 45% of people who try to use it and which puts off an unkown number of others from even trying.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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It isn't 'tech' as such but this will certainly be an interesting change if it gets adopted by the mainstream;

http://www.castrol.com/en_gb/united-kingdom/about-...

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
Ares said:
CrutyRammers said:
You illustrate my point perfectly smile Line in will always work, on every device, in every car, because it's SIMPLE.
Too much tech for tech's sake, rather than practical solutions.
BMWs allow bluetooth paring from your phone to the car. I can play my entire catalogue, or anything from Spotify through the car's stereo - and control it all through iDrive. It's as simple, if not more simple than a line-in cable.
Good grief. No, it isn't simpler than plugging in a cable, because you have to know about how bluetooth pairing works, and how to set it up on two systems (the car and the phone). And just because it works with *your* phone, it doesn't mean it works with all phones. And not with any mp3 players or other devices which don't have bluetooth. Whereas a Cable. Works. With. Everything.

article from earlier this year said:
J.D. Power's annual Vehicle Dependability Study, released Wednesday, found that 55 percent of drivers surveyed about their 3-year-old vehicles said the Bluetooth system does not recognize their phone. Separately, 31 percent said their phone does not automatically connect to their car when they get inside. Bluetooth did not respond to a request for comment.

"Bluetooth and voice recognition systems not working are the top two problems vehicle owners are reporting after three years of having their cars," said Renee Stephens, vice president of U.S. Automotive for J.D. Power. "They are tired of this technology not working in their cars."
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/25/car-owners-fed-up-w...

I am not against technology, I want practical solutions which work, not technological masterbation that only works for 45% of people who try to use it and which puts off an unkown number of others from even trying.
Just because cheap yank car bluetooth systems are, well, cheap, doesn't mean the system doesn't work.

I don't know anyone in the UK who can't connect to the bluetooth in their car.

As for simple.... If your car and phone have bluetooth (for phone), you'll have paired them anyway. You just select from the iDrive screen, same as if it was the car's HD or a CD.

Simpler than a meerkats former catch-phrase.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Ares said:
Just because cheap yank car bluetooth systems are, well, cheap, doesn't mean the system doesn't work.

I don't know anyone in the UK who can't connect to the bluetooth in their car.

As for simple.... If your car and phone have bluetooth (for phone), you'll have paired them anyway. You just select from the iDrive screen, same as if it was the car's HD or a CD.

Simpler than a meerkats former catch-phrase.
Hilarious. 55% of them don't work, but your's does so that's ok. And everyone who doesn't understand it doesn't deserve to use it anyway, presumably.
This is the problem with much tech these days. It doesn't work for people, it expects people to work for it.
Do you use linux by any chance?

cptsideways

13,551 posts

253 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
Ares said:
Just because cheap yank car bluetooth systems are, well, cheap, doesn't mean the system doesn't work.

I don't know anyone in the UK who can't connect to the bluetooth in their car.

As for simple.... If your car and phone have bluetooth (for phone), you'll have paired them anyway. You just select from the iDrive screen, same as if it was the car's HD or a CD.

Simpler than a meerkats former catch-phrase.
Hilarious. 55% of them don't work, but your's does so that's ok. And everyone who doesn't understand it doesn't deserve to use it anyway, presumably.
This is the problem with much tech these days. It doesn't work for people, it expects people to work for it.
Do you use linux by any chance?
I concur, CruryRammers obviously does not work in the automotive industry rofl but is the perfect customer for his expensive BMW I'm sure he can quote exactly which version his BMW's software is on too.


DaveH23

3,236 posts

171 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Jimmy Recard said:
Like the entire Vauxhall range for the last few years? And BMW and Volkswagen amongst many others.
I had a hire car a while back with a heated screen and thought it was incredilbly distracting.

Hundereds of lines across the screen is not good.

focusxr5

328 posts

117 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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DaveH23 said:
I had a hire car a while back with a heated screen and thought it was incredilbly distracting.

Hundereds of lines across the screen is not good.
I thought the same when I first test drove my car. Within a day I stopped noticing. Now I just find that in the winter it's up there with heated seats (for leather anyway) on must have items.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

135 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Plug and Play electrical/electronic components.

niva441

2,007 posts

232 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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mrpee said:
What about a cold water sprinkler system that is activated when it detects bad language above 60 decibels
A lot of the bad language in my car is down to the technology not working properly. Apparently telling Mercedes Linguatronic to F off is an instruction to switch to Music hard drive.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
Ares said:
Just because cheap yank car bluetooth systems are, well, cheap, doesn't mean the system doesn't work.

I don't know anyone in the UK who can't connect to the bluetooth in their car.

As for simple.... If your car and phone have bluetooth (for phone), you'll have paired them anyway. You just select from the iDrive screen, same as if it was the car's HD or a CD.

Simpler than a meerkats former catch-phrase.
Hilarious. 55% of them don't work, but your's does so that's ok. And everyone who doesn't understand it doesn't deserve to use it anyway, presumably.
This is the problem with much tech these days. It doesn't work for people, it expects people to work for it.
Do you use linux by any chance?
Not hilarious. as I said, "I don't know anyone in the UK who can't connect to the bluetooth in their car", so no, not just me. My 78yr Father in law, my 72 yr old father. My wife, all of her friends, my 6 yr old daughter....yadda yadda yadda... all across a mad dive range of different vehicles and phones.

As I said, I don't know anyone that can't connect But don't let it get in the way of a rant.
Of the 55% of people that can't understand it....could they understand a 'line-in/line'out? Do any of them have music on a phone anyway??

Just because you can't figure it out, doesn't make it difficult for those with more than single-digit brain cell count wink


ChasW

2,135 posts

203 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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I recently heard of a company currently looking for VC funding to develop a control system for a flying car. I thought it was a wind up but apparently not. If you think of the progress of drones etc and all the anti-collision tech around then why not have the facility to fly past the traffic queue on the M1 contraflow!