Panamera : still hideous?

Panamera : still hideous?

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Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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There is no question as to the performance but why did it have to be so ugly.

Frankly if I was in that market and wanted something that size (for context its 20cm longer and 200kg heaver than a Mondeo Estate!) I'd probably be looking at a 7-series. Or go the full hog, get the Turbo and always park it in a dark garage so I never had to look at it.

J4CKO

41,637 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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The Turbo must be insane but doesnt the Merc CLS63 do the same job pretty much and the looks are more palatable ?

fatboy18

18,955 posts

212 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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J4CKO said:
The Turbo must be insane but doesnt the Merc CLS63 do the same job pretty much and the looks are more palatable ?
Your kidding right? Panamera wins game set and match over that IMO

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

152 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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For me the Merc is a different kind of ugly, but just as bad. Very subjective obviously. Alpina B5 Touring slighly less offending and should work well wink?

J4CKO

41,637 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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fatboy18 said:
J4CKO said:
The Turbo must be insane but doesnt the Merc CLS63 do the same job pretty much and the looks are more palatable ?
Your kidding right? Panamera wins game set and match over that IMO
I thought they were similar kind of performance and market segment ?

Performance looks to be similar, 1/4 mile in 11.9 seconds.

Then there is the RS7 and the M6 Gran Coupe.

Just trying to suggest things that may be preferable if someone cant live with the looks of the Porsche, realistically any of them is total overkill anyway.

fatboy18

18,955 posts

212 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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J4CKO said:
fatboy18 said:
J4CKO said:
The Turbo must be insane but doesnt the Merc CLS63 do the same job pretty much and the looks are more palatable ?
Your kidding right? Panamera wins game set and match over that IMO
I thought they were similar kind of performance and market segment ?

Performance looks to be similar, 1/4 mile in 11.9 seconds.

Then there is the RS7 and the M6 Gran Coupe.

Just trying to suggest things that may be preferable if someone cant live with the looks of the Porsche, realistically any of them is total overkill anyway.
Sorry, yes they may be similar in performance but I was meaning the looks of the thing wink

sealtt

3,091 posts

159 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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I think there a lot of similar substitutes for the Panamera. Porsche is definitely one of the best brands in the segment though, whether or not it's the best car will depend on the bias of the customer... Sportiness / looks / luxury / practicality / etc

Herbs

4,916 posts

230 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Ok, well I'm in the market for a new car and went to look at one out of interest and from the cabin, it has almost sold me which is a surprise.

I've a test drive booked for Tuesday but it goes against the grain of everything I've had before.

It's basically between an Evora, R8, Vantage, Granturismo or this.

I've a little girl that I have every weekend so ideally back seats over a second car has left me with Evora or this which are the 2 extremes, driving ability or luxury plus good on the road.

Genuinely stuck on this.

GarethDM

17 posts

106 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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I've recently been mad enough to buy a Pan Turbo as the daily, it is nicknamed Pugly at home. Why you ask, as in general I'm not a Porsche fan at the best of times and the ones on this thing are terrible. Well, I put over 20k miles on the Lambos over the last 12mths as the then daily Jag XJ (superb car btw) had no feel after getting out of the weekend car. I needed XJ space, 4 door and a real sports feel/feedback. My Lambo rep conned me into a test drive of the Pan. It's hot more space than the XJ SWB, the interior is very well done but the performance! I'm not taking straight line hoon, and XJR can do that, no breaking and cornering, no it's not Lambo spec but it's the daily, but for a car it's size it's ridiculous, country lanes come alive, over taking is close to supercar easy, did I mention corners, I laugh at the faces of M and AMG drivers who try to follow me rounds bends. 4 6ft blokes a boot full of luggage and launch control, hysterical! So I have to walk to the drive blindfolded every morning, hmm and ahh as to should I have got the Quatroporte (stunning) relax as o sit and and remember I won't face the Maser depreciation and drive off with a grin. Mad but I will get another, from an owner, Porsche disliking petrolhead who calls his own car Pugly!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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GarethDM said:
I've recently been mad enough to buy a Pan Turbo as the daily, it is nicknamed Pugly at home. Why you ask, as in general I'm not a Porsche fan at the best of times and the ones on this thing are terrible. Well, I put over 20k miles on the Lambos over the last 12mths as the then daily Jag XJ (superb car btw) had no feel after getting out of the weekend car. I needed XJ space, 4 door and a real sports feel/feedback. My Lambo rep conned me into a test drive of the Pan. It's hot more space than the XJ SWB, the interior is very well done but the performance! I'm not taking straight line hoon, and XJR can do that, no breaking and cornering, no it's not Lambo spec but it's the daily, but for a car it's size it's ridiculous, country lanes come alive, over taking is close to supercar easy, did I mention corners, I laugh at the faces of M and AMG drivers who try to follow me rounds bends. 4 6ft blokes a boot full of luggage and launch control, hysterical! So I have to walk to the drive blindfolded every morning, hmm and ahh as to should I have got the Quatroporte (stunning) relax as o sit and and remember I won't face the Maser depreciation and drive off with a grin. Mad but I will get another, from an owner, Porsche disliking petrolhead who calls his own car Pugly!
All very well, but it's like shagging a fat, ugly nymphomaniac. She might bang like a sthouse door in a gale, but she's still a fat, ugly woman....hehe

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
All very well, but it's like shagging a fat, ugly nymphomaniac. She might bang like a sthouse door in a gale, but she's still a fat, ugly woman....hehe
I see what you mean. Having driven one I can report that it's quite good at what it does - but there's nothing about what it does which is of any interest to me whatsoever. I'm just not into big executive saloons. Might be ideal for some folks though. And if the profit margin helps keep Porsche in business building excellent £50k sportscars that's absolutely fine with me!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
mybrainhurts said:
All very well, but it's like shagging a fat, ugly nymphomaniac. She might bang like a sthouse door in a gale, but she's still a fat, ugly woman....hehe
I see what you mean. Having driven one I can report that it's quite good at what it does - but there's nothing about what it does which is of any interest to me whatsoever. I'm just not into big executive saloons. Might be ideal for some folks though. And if the profit margin helps keep Porsche in business building excellent £50k sportscars that's absolutely fine with me!
That's like shagging a sheep to keep the woolly jumper business in business...hehe

pbg2770

3,698 posts

105 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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I would take one over pretty much any other big, fast car. What are the alternatives? M5 Touring? Maybe. Audi estates? fk of! SUVs? fk off!
Comments like that make me really want an RS6.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,408 posts

151 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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I liked it from day 1 and still like it now. And I'm pretty sure that 99/100 who claim to hate it would wet their pants with excitement if they had the prospect of owning one.

I've been a passenger in one, just the diesel, and it's a mightily impressive piece of kit.