Any makes you would never buy?
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Wow some of the stuff in this thread.....
Did someone say xenophobia?!
Had a few cars by Vauxhall, BMW, Fiat, Renault and even a Chrysler. Driven many others also. I've had sublime cars from all of those manufacturers and some stinkers/flawed cars, at the end of the day it's a brand which whilst adhere to certain traits are run by people who probably used to work for at least one other marque and won't be there forever so I don't see it as much of a thing to cling on to. Growing up I had s few vauxhalls and I never understood this thing that everything by Ford has to be unreliable and crap, when the Ford boys said the exact same thing about Vauxhalls. Weirds me out how people pledge some sort of allegiance to a "brand" and get all emotional about it. Quite scary.
Can't really say there is a brand I would never buy from as even though I was going to pick Audi, there is always a couple of exceptions to the rule. (R8, S8)
Never understood this "driven by w
kers" thing, it literally is not statistical and based on your own prejudices?
The only make I can think of I would genuinely avoid as I haven't liked anything they have made is smart.
Did someone say xenophobia?!
Had a few cars by Vauxhall, BMW, Fiat, Renault and even a Chrysler. Driven many others also. I've had sublime cars from all of those manufacturers and some stinkers/flawed cars, at the end of the day it's a brand which whilst adhere to certain traits are run by people who probably used to work for at least one other marque and won't be there forever so I don't see it as much of a thing to cling on to. Growing up I had s few vauxhalls and I never understood this thing that everything by Ford has to be unreliable and crap, when the Ford boys said the exact same thing about Vauxhalls. Weirds me out how people pledge some sort of allegiance to a "brand" and get all emotional about it. Quite scary.
Can't really say there is a brand I would never buy from as even though I was going to pick Audi, there is always a couple of exceptions to the rule. (R8, S8)
Never understood this "driven by w
kers" thing, it literally is not statistical and based on your own prejudices? The only make I can think of I would genuinely avoid as I haven't liked anything they have made is smart.
For me it's SEAT.
I had a new mk1 Leon Cupra R 210, the car was fine, performance wise a huge step up from my Puma. Well spec'd & reasonably reliable.
What has meant I will never consider another was the utter incompetence and lack of care from a number of main dealers. Parts not ordered for pre booked repairs, damage to trim, being left waiting for a promised but never appearing lift not once but 4 times. All complaints met with a shrug & whatevs.
Ironically the dealer next door and part of the same group were Mazda, could not have been more different.Hence a 3MPS followed by a MX5. SEAT -Never, ever again. Really don't care how good the reviews are of the cars are, the owner experience has forever meant it will never be considered.
I had a new mk1 Leon Cupra R 210, the car was fine, performance wise a huge step up from my Puma. Well spec'd & reasonably reliable.
What has meant I will never consider another was the utter incompetence and lack of care from a number of main dealers. Parts not ordered for pre booked repairs, damage to trim, being left waiting for a promised but never appearing lift not once but 4 times. All complaints met with a shrug & whatevs.
Ironically the dealer next door and part of the same group were Mazda, could not have been more different.Hence a 3MPS followed by a MX5. SEAT -Never, ever again. Really don't care how good the reviews are of the cars are, the owner experience has forever meant it will never be considered.
Bone Rat said:
SEAT -Never, ever again. Really don't care how good the reviews are of the cars are, the owner experience has forever meant it will never be considered.
I suppose that sums up where I sit - who knows what someone might produce next so wouldn't discount anything based on product but poor customer service (like Merc) and I'm gone forever!I actually like the car - CLS Shooting Brake - but it will go early because of 'customer service' - that and I'm 20 years too young for it (coffin dodger car and I'm not quite 60 yet)
I dont think Ill ever have a Vauxhall. Too plebby for my tastes.
I had a Focus ST which pretty much solidified in my mind the fact that Ill probably never get another Ford. I say probably, because Id chew my own arm off for a Sierra RS500 or similar vintage fast Ford.
Ive had some unpleasant experiences with my current VW which saw me swearing off another one for good a while back, but Ive cooled off a little now. I still dont think Id get in another one unless it was amazing though, which I dont see as being the case.
Range Rover or similar purveyors of massive boaty truck things I doubt Ill ever even get close to wanting to own.
I had a Focus ST which pretty much solidified in my mind the fact that Ill probably never get another Ford. I say probably, because Id chew my own arm off for a Sierra RS500 or similar vintage fast Ford.
Ive had some unpleasant experiences with my current VW which saw me swearing off another one for good a while back, but Ive cooled off a little now. I still dont think Id get in another one unless it was amazing though, which I dont see as being the case.
Range Rover or similar purveyors of massive boaty truck things I doubt Ill ever even get close to wanting to own.
Edited by Falsey on Thursday 3rd December 17:23
I'd drive a Ssangyong if they made a great car.
Refusing to buy a 'make' is plain daft, although, I concede there are makes (Mercedes and Vauxhall, for different reasons) who need to make a BETTER car for me to consider it than some of their competitors.
I guess we're all guilty of some prejudice about a brand (positive or negative), but having owned a few makes appearing in this list, I've come to the conclusion that to disregard any make entirely would be my loss...
I'd be surprised if I ever bought A Land Rover or Range Rover, but that's because they only make SUVs and I can't see me every buying that kind of car - If they put a Land Rover badge on an Audi RS3 and sold it for £25,000 I'd buy it!
M.
Refusing to buy a 'make' is plain daft, although, I concede there are makes (Mercedes and Vauxhall, for different reasons) who need to make a BETTER car for me to consider it than some of their competitors.
I guess we're all guilty of some prejudice about a brand (positive or negative), but having owned a few makes appearing in this list, I've come to the conclusion that to disregard any make entirely would be my loss...
I'd be surprised if I ever bought A Land Rover or Range Rover, but that's because they only make SUVs and I can't see me every buying that kind of car - If they put a Land Rover badge on an Audi RS3 and sold it for £25,000 I'd buy it!
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Thursday 3rd December 17:33
L9 GTE said:
Wow some of the stuff in this thread.....
Did someone say xenophobia?!
Had a few cars by Vauxhall, BMW, Fiat, Renault and even a Chrysler. Driven many others also. I've had sublime cars from all of those manufacturers and some stinkers/flawed cars, at the end of the day it's a brand which whilst adhere to certain traits are run by people who probably used to work for at least one other marque and won't be there forever so I don't see it as much of a thing to cling on to. Growing up I had s few vauxhalls and I never understood this thing that everything by Ford has to be unreliable and crap, when the Ford boys said the exact same thing about Vauxhalls. Weirds me out how people pledge some sort of allegiance to a "brand" and get all emotional about it. Quite scary.
Can't really say there is a brand I would never buy from as even though I was going to pick Audi, there is always a couple of exceptions to the rule. (R8, S8)
Never understood this "driven by wkers" thing, it literally is not statistical and based on your own prejudices?
The only make I can think of I would genuinely avoid as I haven't liked anything they have made is smart.
It's rather funny/sad really. Planning your car purchases based on a stereotype of other people that might drive them (itself based on a joke from Top Gear 10 years ago) is laughable. I sort of get the dealer service aspect but I don't drive new cars so it's not really applicable to me. It seems to be fashionable on here to bash certain manufacturers and dribble over others often without ever even having tried the cars in question.Did someone say xenophobia?!
Had a few cars by Vauxhall, BMW, Fiat, Renault and even a Chrysler. Driven many others also. I've had sublime cars from all of those manufacturers and some stinkers/flawed cars, at the end of the day it's a brand which whilst adhere to certain traits are run by people who probably used to work for at least one other marque and won't be there forever so I don't see it as much of a thing to cling on to. Growing up I had s few vauxhalls and I never understood this thing that everything by Ford has to be unreliable and crap, when the Ford boys said the exact same thing about Vauxhalls. Weirds me out how people pledge some sort of allegiance to a "brand" and get all emotional about it. Quite scary.
Can't really say there is a brand I would never buy from as even though I was going to pick Audi, there is always a couple of exceptions to the rule. (R8, S8)
Never understood this "driven by w
kers" thing, it literally is not statistical and based on your own prejudices? The only make I can think of I would genuinely avoid as I haven't liked anything they have made is smart.
I also find the 'I can only drive RWD sports cars with 500+bhp/4x4s are undrivable/FWD is for the weak/AWD and autos are for incompetents/BMW are the BEST THING IN THE WHOLE WORLD' crowd rather amusing. In their mind I'm sure they drive everywhere flat out sideways in a big cloud of tyre smoke when in reality they spend 99% of their time on the motorway and in traffic just like everyone else.
I currently drive an Audi, it's great and no I don't care what anyone thinks about me or it. I've also come very close to buying an Impreza with Gold wheels and a big wing and bonnet scoop, I wouldn't have given a toss then either (in fact the ability to offend people from 100yds is perversely appealing).
Bone Rat said:
For me it's SEAT.
I had a new mk1 Leon Cupra R 210, the car was fine, performance wise a huge step up from my Puma. Well spec'd & reasonably reliable.
What has meant I will never consider another was the utter incompetence and lack of care from a number of main dealers. Parts not ordered for pre booked repairs, damage to trim, being left waiting for a promised but never appearing lift not once but 4 times. All complaints met with a shrug & whatevs.
We had a SEAT in the family and I would agree with that, although I did manage to get SEAT UK to cover the cost of the car miserably failing its MOT at 4yrs/30K miles.I had a new mk1 Leon Cupra R 210, the car was fine, performance wise a huge step up from my Puma. Well spec'd & reasonably reliable.
What has meant I will never consider another was the utter incompetence and lack of care from a number of main dealers. Parts not ordered for pre booked repairs, damage to trim, being left waiting for a promised but never appearing lift not once but 4 times. All complaints met with a shrug & whatevs.
OK, lots of people moan about dealers but reading the SEAT forums took dealer hatred to a different level.
Not a fan of Vauxhall, but then there was the VX220
Not a fan of Ford, but there is the GT40
Not a fan of Fiat but the new 124 Spider looks like it could be fun
Had a bad experience with reliability of a Jag (X-type) but the F-Type is gorgeous
Renault is nothing to write home about, but then there's stuff like the Avantime
Nissans tend to be characterised by the CashCow, but then there's the GTR
Toyotas are, by and large, a bit humdrum, but then they brought out the GT86
BMWs seem an unimaginative choice, but the i8 is a thing to behold
Audi seems to be the new level of aspirational consumerism, but the R8 is tasty
There's quite a few brands that don't have anything that entice me at the moment, but it's those last 3 words that matter 'at the moment'
I don't think there's a single brand that I could categorically state that I'd never buy as not only do they produce new stuff all the time, but our own needs change
Not a fan of Ford, but there is the GT40
Not a fan of Fiat but the new 124 Spider looks like it could be fun
Had a bad experience with reliability of a Jag (X-type) but the F-Type is gorgeous
Renault is nothing to write home about, but then there's stuff like the Avantime
Nissans tend to be characterised by the CashCow, but then there's the GTR
Toyotas are, by and large, a bit humdrum, but then they brought out the GT86
BMWs seem an unimaginative choice, but the i8 is a thing to behold
Audi seems to be the new level of aspirational consumerism, but the R8 is tasty
There's quite a few brands that don't have anything that entice me at the moment, but it's those last 3 words that matter 'at the moment'
I don't think there's a single brand that I could categorically state that I'd never buy as not only do they produce new stuff all the time, but our own needs change
TurboHatchback said:
Not really no. My purchases are made on the engineering merits of the individual car itself rather than the badge on the front. If Hyundai release a snorting V8 muscle coupe or Perodua make a monstrous live-axle off-roader then I'll be all ears.
Actually I forgot Vauxhall. Never say never but I'd take a lot of convincing based on everything they've made over the last two decades (Monaros don't count, I'd have one of them in a flash).
This man appears to be inside my head, couldn't have said it better myself.Actually I forgot Vauxhall. Never say never but I'd take a lot of convincing based on everything they've made over the last two decades (Monaros don't count, I'd have one of them in a flash).
stugolf said:
Anything French, drove a 306 D for a while, was awful
MPV, of any description
I drove one as my first car. I would probably have another if I needed to and it was cheap. Even though my housemate's one had most of the trim fall off for no apparent reason. In my mind they are the last decent car they made before they started exclusively making terrible cars.MPV, of any description
I would most likely never buy a Vauxhall. They just don't inspire me at all and look like they have designed to be as cheap as possible.
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