Any makes you would never buy?
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I really could never say never, I'm a pistonhead and I'm into all kinds of eclectic old cars. When I was a kid the chavs all wanted Saxos, I hated them and could never see myself driving a Citroen. However now I realise I like some of Citroen's old stuff and dare I say it they even seem to be making some interesting looking stuff recently.
Besides I've just bought an 'X' reg Saxo for £250 to knock about in while I restore my 5-series.
Don't like Audi now but wouldn't say no to a proper classic one and who knows, maybe my future partner or kid might really want one? Might end up buying one then...
Vauxhall? VXR8... VX220... Lotus Carlton... In the future who knows?
I'm hoping to have a good 50 years of motoring and racing ahead of me, who knows what come along and tickle my fancy?
I'd actually be disappointed not to have tried a wide variety of marques by the time I hang up my keys.
Besides I've just bought an 'X' reg Saxo for £250 to knock about in while I restore my 5-series.
Don't like Audi now but wouldn't say no to a proper classic one and who knows, maybe my future partner or kid might really want one? Might end up buying one then...
Vauxhall? VXR8... VX220... Lotus Carlton... In the future who knows?
I'm hoping to have a good 50 years of motoring and racing ahead of me, who knows what come along and tickle my fancy?
I'd actually be disappointed not to have tried a wide variety of marques by the time I hang up my keys.
Edited by HustleRussell on Friday 4th December 22:14
jamieduff1981 said:
There aren't really any brands I have a pathological hatred for. There are definately brands I believe are *massively* over-hyped though, and I want to keep a healthy distance between me and the collective mass that fawns over these unremarkable cars. Audi. BMW to a lesser extent but it's there for me. The Audi lot makes my skin crawl. BMW sorts tend to be blind to other cars which drive well, and it grates.
There are lots of other brands that whilst not being actively against them, it's very hard to imagine a scenario where there wasn't a long list of things I'd rather have and thus it's unlikely I'd ever have one..
I'd have a Kia with a decent warranty or a Ford before some leggy Golf.
This - with bells and whistles. I'd have anything over something German.....There are lots of other brands that whilst not being actively against them, it's very hard to imagine a scenario where there wasn't a long list of things I'd rather have and thus it's unlikely I'd ever have one..
I'd have a Kia with a decent warranty or a Ford before some leggy Golf.
Edited by StescoG66 on Saturday 5th December 14:01
kING BENZI'd never buy a Merc, (even when I worked for them), just don't like the image. also I'd never have a VW or an Audi, to me they are cheap German Cars bought by people who can't afford BMW or Mercs, and I'm old enough I'd not consider a Skoda, or anything Korean. I accept that you can argue that this is not logical but its my perception. I'd never buy a 350Z until they stop styling them to look like Porsche wanabys.
I would be surprised to find myself ever buying an Audi or a Merc. I despise the image of both.
However, any real driving enthusiast would have to make exceptions where the CAR (rather than the badge) is exciting. R8 V10 with a manual box? I don't think I would turn that down.
Similarly, Aston Martins leave me entirely cold; but I would not say "No" to one with a V12.
However, any real driving enthusiast would have to make exceptions where the CAR (rather than the badge) is exciting. R8 V10 with a manual box? I don't think I would turn that down.
Similarly, Aston Martins leave me entirely cold; but I would not say "No" to one with a V12.
I'm done with BMW for good. I bought their flagship model, at the time in 2014 anyway, an M6 cabrio brand new and not only was the car itself below my expectations, the service was horrible.
The problem with expensive cars from mid tier brands is that the dealers are not really set up to handle customer service for that price point.
The problem with expensive cars from mid tier brands is that the dealers are not really set up to handle customer service for that price point.
At this current moment in time I wouldn't buy anything Jap/Korean/Vauxhall/FORD/French/Fiat. None of those make a single car that appeals to me! Some look OK from the outside, but once you sit in them you can immediately feel you're sitting in a cheap car!! Also, with finance the way it is today, I'd much rather spend a bit more a month and have a BMW/Merc/Audi/Jag.
However, of the lot, Ford is the one I really would never want to own. I've always hated them. I used to not mind the Mk2 Focus RS, until my neighbour bought one and I saw that the interior on his £25k car was worse than in my old MK5 (2004) bottom of the range golf!!
EXCEPTION: NIssan GTR (unlikely I'll ever have £70k spare for a car, so kind of irrelivant!!)
However, of the lot, Ford is the one I really would never want to own. I've always hated them. I used to not mind the Mk2 Focus RS, until my neighbour bought one and I saw that the interior on his £25k car was worse than in my old MK5 (2004) bottom of the range golf!!
EXCEPTION: NIssan GTR (unlikely I'll ever have £70k spare for a car, so kind of irrelivant!!)
Impossible question if we're to consider cars from across the generations and development of their vehicles.
I'd personally not like a modern Mercedes or Audi, as the perceived quality does not match the modern product. Undoubtedly, however, in the late 70s and 80s, their products really did justify their reputation for being something special in comparison to other brands ....... remembering that the premium over a ford or Vauxhall of the time would have been a significantly larger factor than today.
I'd personally not like a modern Mercedes or Audi, as the perceived quality does not match the modern product. Undoubtedly, however, in the late 70s and 80s, their products really did justify their reputation for being something special in comparison to other brands ....... remembering that the premium over a ford or Vauxhall of the time would have been a significantly larger factor than today.
Peugeot/Citroen/Renault. They ARE crap compared to the competition (their hot hatches might be fun to drive but when you're not hooning like a loon, it's just another crap French hatchback) and their history of shoddy reliability alone is enough to put me off, nevermind the cheap build quality and dodgy ergonomics.
Also Vauxhall. And probably Volkswagen - too expensive for what they are.
Also Vauxhall. And probably Volkswagen - too expensive for what they are.
mat205125 said:
Impossible question if we're to consider cars from across the generations and development of their vehicles.
I'd personally not like a modern Mercedes or Audi, as the perceived quality does not match the modern product. Undoubtedly, however, in the late 70s and 80s, their products really did justify their reputation for being something special in comparison to other brands ....... remembering that the premium over a ford or Vauxhall of the time would have been a significantly larger factor than today.
Agree. Though I find some of the apparent level of hate towards certain makes hard to understand. It comes across as tribal, like Man Utd fans hating Liverpool. Anyway FWIW I am most disappointed by Mercedes as their products were a class or two above the norm when I first became interested in cars. Similarly Audi were somewhere in between. Big BMWs were elegant yet sporty. The problem comes when these manufacturers try and fill every segment with a "premium" offering. It doesn't wash as volume removes any sense of exclusivity. With no disrespect to the drivers, 3 Series are reps cars these days. They have taken over from the Ford Cortina of an earlier era which is partly why, if I had no choice, I'd be quite happy with a Mondeo as a company car today. There's little difference between a Ford and a BMW or Mercedes.I'd personally not like a modern Mercedes or Audi, as the perceived quality does not match the modern product. Undoubtedly, however, in the late 70s and 80s, their products really did justify their reputation for being something special in comparison to other brands ....... remembering that the premium over a ford or Vauxhall of the time would have been a significantly larger factor than today.
After 5 years of Renault ownership I vowed never to buy one again. Both the Renaultsport clio and Twingo cost me a small fortune in repairs, conveniently when they just ran out of warranty! Great drivers cars but parts made from chocolate really let them down! I know a few people who have had to fork out £2k plus on gearboxes in the 197 and 200 Clio. Nearly 1 year into VAG ownership, no issues to report so far but we will see..
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