RE: Renault Clio V6: PH Carpool
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I had a 2002 Mk1 - stripped it out, caged it, tracked it regularly, put it into a fledgling track car hire business fleet.
It survived numerous ham-fisted punters (including a memorable side-ways, partially airborne exit from the bottom of the long Bruntinthorpe straight - the last time I ever assumed the role of instructor/passenger).
Ultimately it ended up as a failed project; the circumstances of which are too convoluted to repeat here. Last seen as a rolling shell on the back of a trailer after an exchange of 3k. Followed by the partially re-worked engine 2 weeks later for even less.
I still miss that car, I had some great times in it (Don Palmer training days on two occasions), trying to not die at Donnington in the wet, first trip to LeMans with some great friends.
There was (and is) a lot of rubbish written about them being window-maker, potato field seekers, hedge bandits but that was frequently more a reflection of the person behind the wheel and a lack of awareness of the foibles of a short wheelbase mid-engine car.
It survived numerous ham-fisted punters (including a memorable side-ways, partially airborne exit from the bottom of the long Bruntinthorpe straight - the last time I ever assumed the role of instructor/passenger).
Ultimately it ended up as a failed project; the circumstances of which are too convoluted to repeat here. Last seen as a rolling shell on the back of a trailer after an exchange of 3k. Followed by the partially re-worked engine 2 weeks later for even less.
I still miss that car, I had some great times in it (Don Palmer training days on two occasions), trying to not die at Donnington in the wet, first trip to LeMans with some great friends.
There was (and is) a lot of rubbish written about them being window-maker, potato field seekers, hedge bandits but that was frequently more a reflection of the person behind the wheel and a lack of awareness of the foibles of a short wheelbase mid-engine car.
Great write up Chris.
I purchased my first with the money id saved up for a house deposit. Self employment didn't allow me to buy a house at the time so I bought the car I'd always wanted a Clio v6 with the intention to sell it when I could buy a house and hopefully not loose any money.
2 years have passed and Iv toyed with selling up to get different cars but I just don't want to sell it. I managed to save another house deposit But accidently spent that on another Clio v6 which Iv had 5 months now but will have to sell it next year to get on the property ladder.
I'm glad I was in the situation I was 2 years ago, if I'd of not got one then I don't think I'd ever of managed.
Picture from my first ever trackday last weekend.
I purchased my first with the money id saved up for a house deposit. Self employment didn't allow me to buy a house at the time so I bought the car I'd always wanted a Clio v6 with the intention to sell it when I could buy a house and hopefully not loose any money.
2 years have passed and Iv toyed with selling up to get different cars but I just don't want to sell it. I managed to save another house deposit But accidently spent that on another Clio v6 which Iv had 5 months now but will have to sell it next year to get on the property ladder.
I'm glad I was in the situation I was 2 years ago, if I'd of not got one then I don't think I'd ever of managed.
Picture from my first ever trackday last weekend.
A favourite of mine, I do wish there were more genuinely 'special'/limited edition cars that were not at the high end of the market.
If it's a low mileage / rare colour you can probably add 10k to the prices above.Genuine 'really nice' examples for £8k? I don't ever remember that, not saying they didn't but I dont remember them ever dipping much below 10k and that was for more dubious examples.. I wish I'd noticed the nice ones for £8k, as I'd have gone and had a look.
Chris V6 255 said:
ukaskew said:
Really nice examples were going for around £8k at one point, values seem all over the shop now, any idea what decent Ph1/Ph2s actually sell for these days?
Good ph1's are around 15-20k & ph2's are 20-25kIf it's a low mileage / rare colour you can probably add 10k to the prices above.
Cliov6dan said:
Great write up Chris.
I purchased my first with the money id saved up for a house deposit. Self employment didn't allow me to buy a house at the time so I bought the car I'd always wanted a Clio v6 with the intention to sell it when I could buy a house and hopefully not loose any money.
2 years have passed and Iv toyed with selling up to get different cars but I just don't want to sell it. I managed to save another house deposit But accidently spent that on another Clio v6 which Iv had 5 months now but will have to sell it next year to get on the property ladder.
I'm glad I was in the situation I was 2 years ago, if I'd of not got one then I don't think I'd ever of managed.
Picture from my first ever trackday last weekend.
Can't wait to show Andy that photo Dan !!! I purchased my first with the money id saved up for a house deposit. Self employment didn't allow me to buy a house at the time so I bought the car I'd always wanted a Clio v6 with the intention to sell it when I could buy a house and hopefully not loose any money.
2 years have passed and Iv toyed with selling up to get different cars but I just don't want to sell it. I managed to save another house deposit But accidently spent that on another Clio v6 which Iv had 5 months now but will have to sell it next year to get on the property ladder.
I'm glad I was in the situation I was 2 years ago, if I'd of not got one then I don't think I'd ever of managed.
Picture from my first ever trackday last weekend.
He still hasn't replaced it with anything.
Shall I have a word with him and see if he wants it back... now that you have 'sorted' it ??
CorvetteConvert said:
Do they have any tuning potential? They are fairly old-tech Nat/Asp, so I can't imagine there's too many extra bhp awaiting release, unless anyone knows different?
Not a great deal of tuning potential to be fair but it doesn't need it. If you are all about 0-60 or lap times then this isn't a car for u.It's all about the driver involvement, noise & sence of occasion. Down a country lane or on a track a Golf R would annihilate it but the V6 feels special in a way that the R could never emulate.
Gompo said:
Genuine 'really nice' examples for £8k? I don't ever remember that, not saying they didn't but I dont remember them ever dipping much below 10k and that was for more dubious examples.. I wish I'd noticed the nice ones for £8k, as I'd have gone and had a look.
I saw a few CAT D below £10k, and one of those was a smidge below £8k, a couple of years ago.A Cat D Ph.1 sold on eBay, recently (well, it was this year) for £7.5k.
It was 'finished' and looked in good condition with low miles.
I talked to the seller extensively about having it alongside my one (above) to actually 'use it'.
One more day and I would have gone for it (the guy who bought it was messing him around).
Can't help but feel I missed out on a massive bargain there.
No idea why the guy who won it was messing the seller around so badly (stalling to buy time to get the money together, I assume).
In the last 6 months, the values have just rocketed. I doubt we'll see a car that low again.
It was 'finished' and looked in good condition with low miles.
I talked to the seller extensively about having it alongside my one (above) to actually 'use it'.
One more day and I would have gone for it (the guy who bought it was messing him around).
Can't help but feel I missed out on a massive bargain there.
No idea why the guy who won it was messing the seller around so badly (stalling to buy time to get the money together, I assume).
In the last 6 months, the values have just rocketed. I doubt we'll see a car that low again.
If the bubble bursts...
The reality is; yes. All collectors cars will be affected in one way or another, I'm sure.
Still, how many 'special' cars from a mainstream manufacturer have been made in such small numbers and justify a lot less 'value'? Can't be many (any?).
There are more Porsche RS models than V6 Clios.
And it really, really isn't just a fat Clio!
Look at Integrale prices and alike... Why are these cars less special?
The reality is; yes. All collectors cars will be affected in one way or another, I'm sure.
Still, how many 'special' cars from a mainstream manufacturer have been made in such small numbers and justify a lot less 'value'? Can't be many (any?).
There are more Porsche RS models than V6 Clios.
And it really, really isn't just a fat Clio!
Look at Integrale prices and alike... Why are these cars less special?
Edited by dom9 on Monday 14th December 12:58
dom9 said:
If the bubble bursts...
The reality is; yes. All collectors cars will be affected in one way or another, I'm sure.
Still, how many 'special' cars from a mainstream manufacturer have been made in such small numbers and justify a lot less 'value'? Can't be many (any?).
There are more Porsche RS models than V6 Clios.
And it really, really isn't just a fat Clio!
Look an Integrale prices and alike... Why are these cars less special?
Fat Clio was a bit disrespectful, apologies. The reality is; yes. All collectors cars will be affected in one way or another, I'm sure.
Still, how many 'special' cars from a mainstream manufacturer have been made in such small numbers and justify a lot less 'value'? Can't be many (any?).
There are more Porsche RS models than V6 Clios.
And it really, really isn't just a fat Clio!
Look an Integrale prices and alike... Why are these cars less special?
If we tell everyone it's just a fat Clio then maybe word will spread and the price will fall.
I'm actually a huge Renault fan and I'm contemplating selling one of my r5 to part fund one
CorvetteConvert said:
Do they have any tuning potential? They are fairly old-tech Nat/Asp, so I can't imagine there's too many extra bhp awaiting release, unless anyone knows different?
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