RE: BMW M4 AC Schnitzer ACS4: Review
Discussion
Lorcan said:
Rod200SX said:
Can't just be me that's shocked at £3,000 for a catback exhaust?
Yes, it's a twin set up but c'mon...
A similar spec Remus is around £2500, BMW M Performance around £4000, and the Akrapovic nearly £5000.Yes, it's a twin set up but c'mon...
Older/simpler car. But a 3 inch turbo back for my 200SX including manifold, all stainless cost me less than a grand. With decent stuff, too.
Suppose, more expensive car = more expensive parts.
Rod200SX said:
Well I'm out of touch. I realise a lot of R&D goes in to these systems but good lord.
Older/simpler car. But a 3 inch turbo back for my 200SX including manifold, all stainless cost me less than a grand. With decent stuff, too.
Suppose, more expensive car = more expensive parts.
I think they charge what they think the owners can afford.Older/simpler car. But a 3 inch turbo back for my 200SX including manifold, all stainless cost me less than a grand. With decent stuff, too.
Suppose, more expensive car = more expensive parts.
I also bought manifold, elbow, downpipe, decat, and full quality exhaust system (HKS) and all fitting parts for less than 1k, and still going strong 10 years later
Debaser said:
mwstewart said:
Absolutely daft putting 20" wheels on it
They don't seem to have harmed the dynamics though.Effective or not it looks vile to my eyes, although I suppose many will disagree.
mathepac said:
Could I ask that you and the sub-editors acquaint yourselves with the meaning and usage of the word "fulsome" in modern writing before submitting further reviews. I does NOT mean what you seem to think it means.
Google gives two meanings, the second of which is "of large size or quantity; generous or abundant". This seems to be a great word to describe a power curve which goes on climbing where the stock car levels off.
While the general quality of language used in automotive journalism is pretty error-strewn, this seems like a case of getting it right to me.
Ares said:
Wills2 said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Wills2 said:
Eh?
Usually it's just chav tat when a car gets the Schnitzer cosmetics. I do not enjoy this so much because it is too plastic for my liking some times you must think of more than just the speed of the car I prefer AUDI in this category to BMW.
Thank you Mr. Dan for this article and thank you for giving my pleasure so many times as I am sure you have given many men pleasure. Happy Christmas form my family to yours, Christmas has only been celebrated in Japan for the last few years. It's still not seen as a religious holiday as not so many Christians in Japan. ... Christmas eve is thought of as a romantic day, in which couples spend together and exchange presents so I consider you are great writing a gift to myself.
Happy Jap
Thank you Mr. Dan for this article and thank you for giving my pleasure so many times as I am sure you have given many men pleasure. Happy Christmas form my family to yours, Christmas has only been celebrated in Japan for the last few years. It's still not seen as a religious holiday as not so many Christians in Japan. ... Christmas eve is thought of as a romantic day, in which couples spend together and exchange presents so I consider you are great writing a gift to myself.
Happy Jap
kambites said:
Debaser said:
mwstewart said:
Absolutely daft putting 20" wheels on it
They don't seem to have harmed the dynamics though.Effective or not it looks vile to my eyes, although I suppose many will disagree.
B10BRW said:
Buy an Alpina B4, much better than a M4 and doesn't need all those expensive upgrades
Nice car the B4, but to be fair to the M4, a B4 brought up to the same spec the m4 gets as standard is 65k with zero discount available. The M4 DCT is 60k with at least 6-7k available off that so a net of 53-54k, 11-12k less than the B4 (spec for spec) so plenty of room to add the ACS suspension which is around 2.5k.Plus their are plenty of things to get your head around with the B4 like the fact you've got the same seats as a 318d sport in your 60k+ car.....
But ETTO.
Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 22 December 21:28
rs4al said:
So all us manual M4 owners are all saying it is an easier car than the dct.
Chances of a professional review....
Last I checked BMW didn't even have a press car without ceramics, let alone with a manual. I did have a go with one on the launch event, albeit on dry Portuguese roads, and while I liked it and my heart said it was cooler it was hard to escape the impression the whole package of stability control, diff, throttle mapping and all the rest was optimised for the DCT. Felt like a modern car with an old transmission. And I speak as someone who loves a manual and would always instinctively go for one. But in the case of this particular car the dual-clutch completes the package, though I salute anyone who disagrees and specs one! Chances of a professional review....
Actually there was a vid from the original launch story of me in the manual ... here it is ... and if you listen you can hear the revs flare as it loses traction over the bumps because the damping can't maintain consistent contact patch through the tyres. That on a wet B-road is exactly the reason you get lots of DSC lights at this time of year. Yes, I know the answer is to back out of it a bit but with better damping as driven on the Schnitzer car you don't have to!
I'd love to drive a manual in the UK though and will see if we can source one to that end. In the meantime if there are any owners who wish to expand on the theme please share your experiences.
And HappyJap? Always a pleasure sir, look forward to hearing more from you in 2016!
Cheers,
Dan
Edited by Dan Trent on Wednesday 23 December 00:13
Patrick Bateman said:
Could this be the first decent thing AC Schnitzer have ever done?
I quite liked my old AC Schnitzer E36 M3 that had carbon fibre bumpers and kevlar wide arches, ACS coilovers (Bilstein) , ACS split rims (OZ Racing) and ACS exhaust (Remus). The original invoice was eye watering. 
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