RE: Honda NSX: PH Carpool

RE: Honda NSX: PH Carpool

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rb26

786 posts

187 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Would love a non-collectable condition manual NA1 NSX, pre-power assisted steering car, in red with a black roof. Such a shame that the newer generation of enthusiasts won't be able to enjoy getting into their 'realistic' dream cars at a lower price point in the market. Increasing interest rates and changing investment portfolios may result in prices being reigned in some what. However I highly doubt we'll see NSX's at the £15-20,000 price point they were being sold for in 2008, even a UK NA1 NSX-R could be had for £45-50,000 back then. Although the cars, in my opinion,were far better than the low price suggested, I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't miffed at missing out! Well done to anyone that got in before prices sky rocketed!

Baryonyx

18,010 posts

160 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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That is incredible. Yellow is the best colour too.

dinkel

26,976 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Derek Chevalier said:
dinkel said:
Honda fan too.

How do they compared to a period Ferrari (355) today?
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche...
Summs it up - thx.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I'm no Honda fanboy but the NSX really is something of a legend. 158,000 miles on all-original mechanicals too, not bad...

By the way, does anyone know the height/length/width of either C30A or C32B V6s?

Edited by RoverP6B on Tuesday 22 December 11:03

utgjon

713 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
I'm no Honda fanboy but the NSX really is something of a legend. 158,000 miles on all-original mechanicals too, not bad...
pun intended?

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Not intended, no!

Previous post edited to add query.

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
By the way, does anyone know the height/length/width of either C30A or C32B V6s?
I've got one sitting on a pallet downstairs. brb...

mjames75

82 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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EskimoArapaho said:
I've got one sitting on a pallet downstairs. brb...
Hes not joking either...

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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The C30A engine is 79cm wide, 100cm long (inc RHS ancilliaries and gearbox) and 74cm tall. 99.99% sure that the C32 engine has identical dimensions.

It's a 90-degree V, so would be tricky to squeeze into some other compartments. But I vaguely recall that some crazy yanks have put it up front in other Honda project cars.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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So, this should fit! Might need to detune it a little for longevity, though...


dinkel

26,976 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Are there road legal cars with detuned F1 / endurance engines in?

F50 comes to mind.

The NSX is such a great understatement - those were the days.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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McLaren F1... that was basically the same engine as in the BMW V12 LMR... and I remember seeing a video of an E36 hillclimb car with a Judd V8...

Matt UK

17,756 posts

201 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I really value handling purity over a surfeit of power.

The original NSX is my kind of sports car.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Granted - but a lower, lighter, physically smaller longitudinally-mounted engine would surely improve it? I don't understand how a 3-litre V6 can be so much bigger than a 3.5-litre V12! And surely the NSX with only 270bhp (290 with the C32b) is a bit slow to be called a supercar, given that we're now in an era of a 380bhp Cayman?

kambites

67,649 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
And surely the NSX with only 270bhp (290 with the C32b) is a bit slow to be called a supercar, given that we're now in an era of a 380bhp Cayman?
It's an old car. The Lamborghini Miura is no less a supercar because it's slower than a modern Golf.

Mind you, I wouldn't call the NSX a supercar; if I had to think of a modern market equivalent I suppose the 911 GT3 would probably be closest; or maybe the Evora 400.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 22 December 20:57

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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More Evora than GT3. No Miura ever had less than 350bhp (P400, 1125kg), the SV 380bhp (1298kg). It's a fair bet that it'd be quicker than an NSX.

mjames75

82 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
Granted - but a lower, lighter, physically smaller longitudinally-mounted engine would surely improve it? I don't understand how a 3-litre V6 can be so much bigger than a 3.5-litre V12! And surely the NSX with only 270bhp (290 with the C32b) is a bit slow to be called a supercar, given that we're now in an era of a 380bhp Cayman?
Its an old car...Cayman is new. But its certainly not slow. The NSX was not about straight line speed. Having said that its side by side with my CSL and thats quick round the ring, again handling is key with the CSL too

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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True, I suppose - when the NSX came out, the BMW M5 had 335bhp, and it now has 552bhp (officially - most people seem to agree it's more like 600!), so that's a power increase of 65% at least, so (using the M5 yardstick) the NSX has the equivalent of 445bhp...

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
More Evora than GT3. No Miura ever had less than 350bhp (P400, 1125kg), the SV 380bhp (1298kg). It's a fair bet that it'd be quicker than an NSX.
What odds are you quoting?

http://fastestlaps.com/models/lamborghini-miura-p4...


RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Miura bhp/ton 44% higher... it may lack traction in a straight line compared to the NSX, hence it being a whisker slower to 62mph and over the quarter-mile, but take it to Spa or Monza and I think the NSX would be left behind by the granddaddy of all supercars...