VW Adaptive Cruise/Anti-Collision Radar - Nearly crashed!

VW Adaptive Cruise/Anti-Collision Radar - Nearly crashed!

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ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Jazzer said:
You can read Ts and Cs, it's all in the contract, BUT what about the meaning/interpretation of the words?
That's where lawyers make their money. smile

I'm more than happy to be proved wrong here, but I don't know of any cases yet where turning off a driver aid has invalidated insurance.

I'm not saying you're flat-out wrong, Jazzer - I have been careful how I have worded my posts even if others haven't - but it would represent a fundamental shift in motor insurance. Right now the only thing I'm aware of is the GPS black boxes that are fundamental to those types of policies.

robinessex

11,059 posts

181 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Jazzer said:
Instead of saying I am wrong (I'm reporting what has happened to others), it would be wiser to check out what I'm saying to see for yourself the scenarios which fly in the face of the pseudo-learned comments on here.
Where did you report this HAS happened to others then ?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Jazzer said:
It would appear that I have caused cognitive conflict here.
No, it's simpler than that. You're wrong.

Jazzer said:
This is a good thing, as it is an effective learning avenue.
Fill yer boots.

Jazzer said:
Instead of saying I am wrong (I'm reporting what has happened to others), it would be wiser to check out what I'm saying to see for yourself the scenarios which fly in the face of the pseudo-learned comments on here.
But you ARE wrong...

Jazzer said:
What's that saying?

Oh, I know: Ignorance is bliss.....
You must be very happy.

robinessex said:
Where did you report this HAS happened to others then ?
Somebody on a Golf R forum had it happen to a bloke their mate met in a pub. Apparently.

Jazzer

1,674 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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What's up Adrian??

Something is, according to your posts.

You need to relax, breathe slowly and deeply.

Feel free to quote me!

😄👍!

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Jazzer said:
Feel free to quote me!
Feel free to read my posts and respond to them. wink


Jazzer

1,674 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Last-word freak, a veritable keyboard warrior!

Quote me happy!

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ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Jazzer said:
Last-word freak, a veritable keyboard warrior!
WTF are you tripping on? Can I have some?


DonkeyApple

55,292 posts

169 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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saaby93 said:
Jazzer said:
It only intervenes when things seem potentially dangerous....
And that's the problem
Just because it 'seems potentially' doesn't mean that it is
If it then reacts in an unexpected manner, that too could be 'potentially dangerous'.

If drivers begin to rely on the system getting them out of trouble its worse
This ones been well viewed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5qwU0hwB0
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XskQq-YHpc

I hope I'm not sounding like a sourpuss
safety systems that work are great
safety systems that lead to unintended consequences are not
Indeed. This is the point.

Being able to see and determine a potentially dangerous situation is a very good thing.

Taking control away and force executing a preset reaction to a variable situation cannot be argued to be a guaranteed good thing. Maybe the human is in total control, maybe they've made an error and need assistance. The computer doesn't actually know the answer to the final question.

It does remind me of a 540i I once had that was bloody lethal at times as it had a computer that tried to guess whether you had slammed your foot on the accelerator by accident or not. The net result was that in situations where you had been following a slow moving vehicle like a tractor for a while and you suddenly had an opportunity to pass that the power of the engine gave you, the computer would decide that because you had been driving like Miss Daisy for the last few miles you had clearly made an error so it wouldn't give you any power. Thus, it would leave you stranded in an incredibly dangerous situation of being a low performance car in the middle of an overtake only safe in a high performance car.

It was bat st mental and an otherwise lovely car actually had to be sold.