Factory Fit Alarm/immobiliser on 2000 HSV GTS?

[Fatboy]

HI Everyone,

I'm loving the GTS I bought last friday (Thread here, but today I had a very annoying experience with the aftermarket 'Autowatch' immobiliser - it just refused to start (as I was supposed to be leaving work to go drop the Ute off at the exhaustr place!), all looked fine, so I suspected the immobiliser, called the AA and the git started as son as they turned up AA man reckjons this is normal for a failing immobiliser and it'll only get worse.

So I've spoken to my local stero/alarm place (Speed of Sound in Barrow) about removing it, which they'll do Friday/Saturday, I'm not keen on aftermarket alarms/immobilisers as IME they're just trouble, but speaking to my insurers (Adrian Flux) they need some sort of electronic immobiliser fitted, although it doesn't need to be Thatcham approved - would my HSV GTS (2000 model) have a factory fit immobiliser? If not I'll get the alarm place to fit another while they're in there...

Cheers

[robbyd]

I had an Autowatch fitted on my VT2 GTS-R and had to had it disabled. The factory alarm kept going off randomly at all times of day & night, quite regularly, sometimes several times an hour.

The fitting centre reckoned the factory immobiliser was scanning things and there was some sort of conflict between the two. Seemed to be a Holden 'thing'...

Should point out that I have had an Autowatch on my Legacy for the last 8 yrs with no issues at all.

[fred bloggs]

Oh you bought it ? Cool.
How do you like it?

[fred bloggs]

BTW forget what the AA man says, they know nothing.
Wa there nothing when you turned the key?

[ArnieVXR]

You should ask Roger at Monkfish...

PS Photos

[HSVbrad]

I've had an Autowatch on my year 2000 GTS for at least 9 years (fitted by previous owner) and had no issues. I've owned the car for about 6 years and I've never even changed a battery in the fobs!

[OverSteery]

Yes it has a factory fit immobiliser - assuming its the same as mine

- from the handbook.


note the single beep if all is well, there might be a clues as to if this is your issue, if it repeats.

I hate after market alarms....

Edited by OverSteery on Wednesday 13th January 21:51

[Fatboy]

Thanks for the help everyone!

fred bloggs said:

BTW forget what the AA man says, they know nothing.
Wa there nothing when you turned the key?

Normal Procedure is t put the key in the ignition, turn to postion 2, press the button on the Autowatch fob, then the dash lights all come on, the dorrs lock/unlock and I can start the car.

What was happening was the lights came on and the doors lock/unlock as normal, but nothing happened when I turned the key - no sound, nothing.

I've also got a little autowatch push fob, with three contacts on it, and I found the receiver for this in the passenger footwell (it's the same as one I have in my 944, again autowatch, but that's never given me any issues, but it's just the contact fob, push in then start the car within a couple of minutes!) - pushing the fob into the receiver makes it beep a couple of times (didn't count how many) and, but didn't help the car start

fred bloggs said:

Oh you bought it ? Cool.
How do you like it?

I bloody love it, it's great
Thanks for the page Oversteer! I think I'll be fine with just that for insurance, but I'll check with them tomorrow.

[Fatboy]

Just to add - it did it again this morning, but started again after locking the car, waiting 2 minutes then unlocking and doing it again.

When I turn the ignition key, there is a single beep from the dash, so looks like the factory immobiliser is disarming as it should...

I'll definitely get the Autowatch Alarm removed - I can't see that this problem is anything other than that at fault unless there's something I'm missing? Plus I've only got 1 set of fobs for it and no paperwork so no idea what system is installed to get spares!

[Fatboy]

Update for you - my local alarm/Car Audio place Speed of Sound managed to fit me in this afternoon and got the Autowatch alarm removed - here's the culprit:


They've tidied up the wiring and removed everything except the LED and sensors (they've only left those to hide the holes), so I'm back to just the factory immobiliser Very Happy and I'd definitely recommend them to anyone in the Barrow/South Lakes area.

[Fatboy]

Hi everyone, the problem has recurred - aftermarket alarm has been totally removed, and it won't start

When I turn the key, lights on the dash come on as normal, there's a single beep from the dash and then nothing when I turn the key - any ideas?

I'm currently sat in the work car park waiting for the AA

[Fatboy]

And then, oddly enough, she decides to start, no changes, just turns over and starts as normal, after 20 minutes or so - what could it be?

Battery on the way out?

[L2VXR]

Starter relay in fuse box ?

Edited by L2VXR on Tuesday 9th February 22:21

[Fatboy]

The starter relay could be on the blink?

I'll get another one, hopefully easily enough sourced... I'll try the fish tomorrow morning :-)

[motomk]

The battery terminals failed on mine one time. Car started and then ground to a halt when I left the work car park. Picked up some generic new ones from a local auto parts store and fitted them when I got home.

[fred bloggs]

I had a non start issue with mine when I first got it.
There is a single trigger wire onto the starter,its low on the car and was a bit corroded.
I also removed the bolts holding the starter and shook it and knocked it about on the bellhousing. It moves the carbon deposits around in the starter. Ive had no further issues.
This method also worked for a monaro owner onhere.

Hope it helps.

[Fatboy]

Thanks Fred,

I'll get underneath ASAP and have a look How easy is the stated to get at?

[fred bloggs]

its easy to get at when you are under, but not easy to get it out. Hence why I shook it up. It worked though.

[Fatboy]

I've ordered a replacement relay from Monkfish, will be here tomorrow

Although it started instantly this morning, it wouldn't start on the way home again - this time I popped the bonnet and had a look at the relays - when I tried to start it with the bonnet and door open I heard a loud 'click' from the engine bay - still no start, then one more try and it started - I heard the click that time as well... Any ideas?

[fred bloggs]

As above . The starter is the issue.