The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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xRIEx said:
He wasn't really though, was he? There was a fairly consistent lane of traffic in the left hand lane and the camera car was doing a fair speed in excess of that lane - it's not like he was only gaining a miniscule amount on each vehicle in the left lane, nor were the gaps between (most) vehicles massive. The only gap that was really sensible for him to move into was the one after the van, after the Lambo had gone past. The Lambo driver wanted to press on, fair enough; he saw a gap and went for it, no drama, but the camera car was doing nothing wrong.
I agree, no one really knows how fast the Lambo was coming up behind him and he was overtaking cars at a reasonable pace.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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GrumpyTwig said:
Pistonheads loves Audi drivers right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zN5mZKdLU4



Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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silentbrown said:
Pete317 said:
Perhaps, but the Lambo took the best part of 10 seconds to disappear from view ahead, so there's no reason to think that he would not have been visible behind for a similar amount of time.

Besides, unless he was fortunate enough to encounter that gap at exactly the right moment, chances are good that he would have had to have slowed down behind -possibly for quite a while.
Good point - that raises the question of how often you should check your mirrors! Obviously it depends on what you see in them, but... The only figure I found was someone saying "every 5 to 8 seconds is ideal". On that basis he could been checking 'ideally' and gone from (T-10) no Lambo to (T-2) one that's two seconds away from undertaking him.
Well, I've encountered cars coming up behind at similarly high speeds on several occasions - and not one of them has taken me by surprise.

But I can only speak from my experiences.

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Bennet said:
silentbrown said:
I suspect the Lambo closed on him pretty fast. Unless his mirror checks were very frequent it could have "appeared out of nowhere".

If there's something closing that rapidly I'd be very reluctant to make a sudden lane change anyway, in case they are daft enough to undertake...
I agree. No hugely strong evidence of poor driving. Slightly unfortunate for the bloke. I'd have been irritated with myself if I'd been caught out by that. Impossible to judge without a rear view.
There was another video posted a while back that I can't find now where someone sees a faster car coming up behind, goes to move over as the faster driver immediately moves to pass him on the inside without giving him a chance to move over and the faster driver's car then spins out of control across the carriageway and crashes.

Whenever someone is pushy, aggressive or dangerous to force his way through traffic, there are always the inevitable accusations of other people lane hogging and not moving out of the aggressive driver's way quickly enough. Often it's not possible to do that safely. In this instance the camera car driver would have had to lose a lot of speed quickly to level with the gap the Lamborghini driver used to pass and, like the Lamborghini driver, he would have been cutting up the last driver he passed. The Lamborghini driver was relying on the camera car driver not adjusting speed or course in order to nip through that gap safely. If the camera car driver had slowed or moved left to try and get out of his way, or accelerated to block him, it would have resulted in a very bad collision and calls for a 50mph limit on that road because an idiot had wiped out at 100mph in a 70mph limit.

When people are tailgating or hammering up behind you at speed to make you move over, they'll often see you slowing down in order to move over into a gap in the traffic you're overtaking as antagonistic. They're not very bright, that's why they're driving badly.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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silentbrown said:
Pete317 said:
Perhaps, but the Lambo took the best part of 10 seconds to disappear from view ahead, so there's no reason to think that he would not have been visible behind for a similar amount of time.

Besides, unless he was fortunate enough to encounter that gap at exactly the right moment, chances are good that he would have had to have slowed down behind -possibly for quite a while.
Good point - that raises the question of how often you should check your mirrors! Obviously it depends on what you see in them, but... The only figure I found was someone saying "every 5 to 8 seconds is ideal". On that basis he could been checking 'ideally' and gone from (T-10) no Lambo to (T-2) one that's two seconds away from undertaking him.
Do people not use their peripheral vision for the rear view? I know you can't necessarily identify what something is but you can detect a change in the 'image' framed in the rear view to 'see' cars behinds you.
I mean... it's a big bright white car, there's a fair amount of contrast between that and everything else for you to notice it if your mirror is set up properly without staring directly at the mirror.

blueg33

35,859 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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silentbrown said:
blueg33 said:
Cam car was in the right hand lane too long.
Difficult call, but I'd disagree. Wide-angle cameras make the distances seem a lot greater.

Also, Lambo went past at around 100MPH and was cutting into the cam cars line quite aggressively when the undertake was barely complete.
I tend to feel that if its going to take me 10 seconds to catch up with a vehicle on the inside lane, then i should pull in. If an overtake was being done on a single carraigeway, would you expect the overtakerto move out that early?

Outside lane is for overtaking and the single carraigeway overtake should IMO be the benchmark

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
The camera car should have moved over. Non-event.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
"my speed was appropriate" and Comments Disabled suggest a lot about the mentality of the dashcam driver.

Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Baryonyx said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
The camera car should have moved over. Non-event.
My take is he didnt see the Lambo, and with only 10 seconds between passing one car and catching another up, would you have moved over? Definate a non event though. Again the Lambo could have been behind him, and decided to floor it because he could, wouldnt mind a shot myself. Daft move.




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Byker28i

59,770 posts

217 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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xRIEx said:
edo said:
GrumpyTwig said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
Another driver who wants to passive aggressively police the roads by sitting in the right hand lane. Says he braked to avoid a collision.... bullst.
Ditto. Prat no doubt sitting there at 70 for miles knowing the Lambo was there.
blueg33 said:
Cam car was in the right hand lane too long.
He wasn't really though, was he? There was a fairly consistent lane of traffic in the left hand lane and the camera car was doing a fair speed in excess of that lane - it's not like he was only gaining a miniscule amount on each vehicle in the left lane, nor were the gaps between (most) vehicles massive. The only gap that was really sensible for him to move into was the one after the van, after the Lambo had gone past. The Lambo driver wanted to press on, fair enough; he saw a gap and went for it, no drama, but the camera car was doing nothing wrong.
In the bit shown, but you wonder in the minutes before how long the lambo had sat behind him while he sat in the outside lane.

Frimley111R

15,650 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Janesy B said:


hehe

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Byker28i said:
xRIEx said:
edo said:
GrumpyTwig said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
Another driver who wants to passive aggressively police the roads by sitting in the right hand lane. Says he braked to avoid a collision.... bullst.
Ditto. Prat no doubt sitting there at 70 for miles knowing the Lambo was there.
blueg33 said:
Cam car was in the right hand lane too long.
He wasn't really though, was he? There was a fairly consistent lane of traffic in the left hand lane and the camera car was doing a fair speed in excess of that lane - it's not like he was only gaining a miniscule amount on each vehicle in the left lane, nor were the gaps between (most) vehicles massive. The only gap that was really sensible for him to move into was the one after the van, after the Lambo had gone past. The Lambo driver wanted to press on, fair enough; he saw a gap and went for it, no drama, but the camera car was doing nothing wrong.
In the bit shown, but you wonder in the minutes before how long the lambo had sat behind him while he sat in the outside lane.
Wondering is absolutely pointless because there's nothing to support that - it's nothing but your own wish for the camera car to be causing a blockage.

Listen to the Lambo's exhaust note: it maintains a fairly level note and the volume rises at a constant rate, suggesting it's not greatly varying its speed and is closing on the car. It doesn't sound like it was maintaining the same speed as the camera car and then whacked the throttle open.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I occasionally travel out of deep and dark Cornwall visiting relatives up country and that's the only real time I get now on motorways. I was slightly shocked at the amount of middle lane hoggers there still are. Traffic was horrendous going past Bristol on the M5 north and south, abso choc a bloc. If just a few of those azzholes moved over the traffic would have flowed far better. Hey ho.

On another note, to the tt in a bright blue bmw 420/430 or whatever on his was to Skegness from the Lincoln area. Yes you short fat bald tt, Yes I got in the wrong lane and then indicated to move back after you passed, but the brake check....and coffee beans....and then the "pull over and lets "talk" about it signal". I had my young neice n nephew with me so eff off. But oh no, you had to follow me 5 ft from my arse didn't you for 20 odd miles, then at a junction get out, wobble over for a rant thru my window.
So if you are in the Lincoln area and you see fattyttty, give a wave!

giantdefy

684 posts

113 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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[quote=mikal83]I occasionally travel out <snip>/quote]

Might I commend the One single thing that makes you think "knob" thread for non-video stuff rather than the st Driving Caught of Cam thread

mistakenplane

426 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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cheddar said:
GrumpyTwig said:
Pistonheads loves Audi drivers right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zN5mZKdLU4
Firstly skip the first 90% of the clip as it's a non event

And what's with "The speed limit's 30mph so I accelerate to 38mph just to 'get up to speed'"
If the biker has enough time to edit a video and add lovely graphics why cant he snip out the minutes of nothing?!

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Vipers said:
Baryonyx said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
The camera car should have moved over. Non-event.
My take is he didnt see the Lambo, and with only 10 seconds between passing one car and catching another up, would you have moved over? Definate a non event though. Again the Lambo could have been behind him, and decided to floor it because he could, wouldnt mind a shot myself. Daft move.


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I think the cam car did nothing wrong. I can well imagine that if I were passing the car on the left and saw the Lambo approaching very fast, I would stay in L2 until he made his intentions clear - the last thing you would want to do is pull into L1 just as he goes for a full bore undertake. I have had this situation once or twice and have decided that the lowest risk option is to stay in L2, at least until it becomes clear what they are doing (only applies if they are approaching at a very high closing speed). Happens more with motorbikes.

Byker28i

59,770 posts

217 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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xRIEx said:
Byker28i said:
xRIEx said:
edo said:
GrumpyTwig said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTqF0BaCA

Undertaken on A303 by Lamborghini Driver

not my video
Another driver who wants to passive aggressively police the roads by sitting in the right hand lane. Says he braked to avoid a collision.... bullst.
Ditto. Prat no doubt sitting there at 70 for miles knowing the Lambo was there.
blueg33 said:
Cam car was in the right hand lane too long.
He wasn't really though, was he? There was a fairly consistent lane of traffic in the left hand lane and the camera car was doing a fair speed in excess of that lane - it's not like he was only gaining a miniscule amount on each vehicle in the left lane, nor were the gaps between (most) vehicles massive. The only gap that was really sensible for him to move into was the one after the van, after the Lambo had gone past. The Lambo driver wanted to press on, fair enough; he saw a gap and went for it, no drama, but the camera car was doing nothing wrong.
In the bit shown, but you wonder in the minutes before how long the lambo had sat behind him while he sat in the outside lane.
Wondering is absolutely pointless because there's nothing to support that - it's nothing but your own wish for the camera car to be causing a blockage.

Listen to the Lambo's exhaust note: it maintains a fairly level note and the volume rises at a constant rate, suggesting it's not greatly varying its speed and is closing on the car. It doesn't sound like it was maintaining the same speed as the camera car and then whacked the throttle open.
Or yours for the Lambo to be at fault?
I would suggest you don't hear the lambo because it was idling along behind and didn't open the throttle until the undertake, plus you don't actually hear it until it's alongside/past (which is expected because of the exhaust pointing away etc).


mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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giantdefy said:
mikal83 said:
I occasionally travel out <snip>/quote]

Might I commend the One single thing that makes you think "knob" thread for non-video stuff rather than the st Driving Caught of Cam thread
yeh I have a shorty to that one but it was the car stuck in the outside lane/MLM bit that I was tacking onto. (But I will as well) smile


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Janesy B said:
I agree, no one really knows how fast the Lambo was coming up behind him and he was overtaking cars at a reasonable pace.
It took him around ten seconds to cover the gap that the Lambo overtook in. More than sufficient distance to pull over and let it go past without having to slow down if he had been bothering to check his mirrors. It was a pretty straight bit of road so you would have been able to see it approaching from quite some way off.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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giantdefy]ikal83 said:
I occasionally travel out <snip>/quote]

Might I commend the One single thing that makes you think "knob" thread for non-video stuff rather than the st Driving Caught of Cam thread
You are welcome to commend it, but I don't think it's particularly great. Did you mean "suggest", or "recommend"?
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