The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

[Stickyfinger]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I do not think anyone disputes that.

[Crafty_]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Because he's one of those cyclists who can not accept any blame for anything they do and any incident (or non incident as the case may be) is always the fault of the car driver.

I'm sure there are sensible, pragmatic cyclists out there, but people of his ilk set out to cause antagonism deliberately.
Likewise, we know that are people as bad as him out there driving cars, vans, lorries.

Life on the roads seems to be about avoiding the assholes and dheads, regardless of the vehicle.

[Olf]

xjay1337 said:

I think cyclist fault. He went to overtake without first checking his surroundings.

He doesn't check over his right shoulder at any point in that entire film. His lack of observation will cause him to have incidents. Most of those he can be self righteous about but one day that lack of observation will probably get him seriously injured or killed.

[pits]

Gary C said:

Mr Snrub said:

CYMR0 said:

Mr Snrub said:

illegal manoeuvre.

Cycle box, maybe not, but filtering to the front... you certainly don't have the right to block someone else's safe overtake at any time, let alone when you're already stationary.

He was going for an illegal undertake on the Focus

Show us the specific law that says you can't undertake

Don't you have to do some sort of training be an undertaker? You're working with dead people after all

[Centurion07]

Stickyfinger said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I do not think anyone disputes that.

Cyclist himself seems to...

[Goaty Bill 2]

blueg33 said:

I dont understand the point of most of the UK dashcam footage. The roads are busy, signage and lane marking is often poor, people make mistakes. Dash cammers would be better dpending their efforts on planning anx pre-emption rather than getting high and mighty and trying to instruct others on their driving and then publicly demonstating their knobbishness by posting on u tube.

Some people need a life!

Quite right!

For a little extra spice;
One of many 'Instant Karma' videos.
Probably a bit NSFW in a (very) few places.

There is a lot of "got what you deserved" going on here.

https://youtu.be/RjlrhiVWWFk


ETA
The cam at 07:38/39
I swear I have seen this guys windscreen in 10+ incidents over a number of videos.
I think he was finally collected in the carnage at some point (in another video).

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Sunday 25th September 13:09

[Garvin]

gforceg said:

Garvin said:

Unfortunately we can't see what was unfolding behind the cyclist but the extremely short time at which the car hoves into view leads me to believe that the car was already established in an overtaking move. On that basis the analogy is not specious at all.

If we accept your assumption then that means the car driver wasn't acting according to what he could see in front of him (a cyclist clearly about to overtake another cyclist).

Anyway, it's a nice day out there so I'm off.

I'm not debating that point. I would expect a good driver in both examples to anticipate the unfolding overtake and take action accordingly. In the overtaking cyclist case the car driver could easily have eased further right, completed the overtake and peace and harmony would have been maintained. In the theoretical analogy I posted the driver in the right hand lane could possibly ease off/brake and allow the unobservant driver out unless already too far committed to the overtake).

However, it rarely happens in practice. The vehicle being 'squeezed' into the back of the vehicle it is approaching ususally has to brake and give way to the vehicle already overtaking - I'm sure we have all experienced this on motorways etc. even when the overtaking vehicle has an empty third lane outside them they could move into and when an intention to overtake is clearly indicated. The point is if a vehicle pulls out without looking to overtake (as the cyclist most certainly did) and contacts another vehicle already overtaking where does fault/blame lie?

[robbiekhan]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Quite right!

For a little extra spice;
One of many 'Instant Karma' videos.
Probably a bit NSFW in a (very) few places.

There is a lot of "got what you deserved" going on here.

https://youtu.be/RjlrhiVWWFk


ETA
The cam at 07:38/39
I swear I have seen this guys windscreen in 10+ incidents over a number of videos.
I think he was finally collected in the carnage at some point (in another video).

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Sunday 25th September 13:09

Some of those make me wish public flogging was allowed for people who do stuff like that. Only punishments like that will ensure people don't go full retard.

[anonymous-user]

Stickyfinger said:

carlove said:

Just found this. What's your thoughts? I personally think the cyclist is a bellend, he made a mistake not shoulder checking overtaking another cyclist, nearly hits the car overtaking them and in true cyclist fashion blames the car for passing too close. Skip to 1:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeHP2cy7IQU

??

Would you overtake a car that was obviously going to over take another (as it was closing fast on it) ? If not, why would you over take as cyclist in the same situation ?

It was the drivers fault.

This. Yes he could have checked his shoulder as there's no use being right when dead etc. but he barely changed his position in the road (if at all) once the Audi had passed the cyclist, so IMO no requirement at all to shoulder check. I am pretty sure the Mokka would not have started to overtake with the Audi still right in front of the cylclist, and by this point the cyclist had taken his position. That is plain terrible driving and so common too. People are complete air heads. I guarantee you the Mokka driver would say "Oh sorry, I didn't realise" if shown that footage. On certain roads I look behind just as much as in front, as you can't expect drivers like that to use their brains.

Also if there is a strong headwind you cannot hear traffic behind when on a bike. There's no way the driver should have attempted that pass.

Edited by RenOHH on Sunday 25th September 20:41

[gforceg]

Garvin said:

I'm not debating that point. I would expect a good driver in both examples to anticipate the unfolding overtake and take action accordingly. In the overtaking cyclist case the car driver could easily have eased further right, completed the overtake and peace and harmony would have been maintained. In the theoretical analogy I posted the driver in the right hand lane could possibly ease off/brake and allow the unobservant driver out unless already too far committed to the overtake).

However, it rarely happens in practice. The vehicle being 'squeezed' into the back of the vehicle it is approaching ususally has to brake and give way to the vehicle already overtaking - I'm sure we have all experienced this on motorways etc. even when the overtaking vehicle has an empty third lane outside them they could move into and when an intention to overtake is clearly indicated. The point is if a vehicle pulls out without looking to overtake (as the cyclist most certainly did) and contacts another vehicle already overtaking where does fault/blame lie?

Agreed. I'm not defending either of the actors in that sorry little drama. Ultimately there's room for all of us if we all stay switched on (if only!).

[poing]

robbiekhan said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Quite right!

For a little extra spice;
One of many 'Instant Karma' videos.
Probably a bit NSFW in a (very) few places.

There is a lot of "got what you deserved" going on here.

https://youtu.be/RjlrhiVWWFk

ETA
The cam at 07:38/39
I swear I have seen this guys windscreen in 10+ incidents over a number of videos.
I think he was finally collected in the carnage at some point (in another video).

Some of those make me wish public flogging was allowed for people who do stuff like that. Only punishments like that will ensure people don't go full retard.

I think the brake testing idiots get all they deserve in those videos, it's very satisfying to watch.

[GrumpyTwig]

Who brake tests someone on a bike? It's stupid enough in a car but you're just asking to be a statistic.

Lots of satisfying clips of people managing to out drive their ESP or lacking it completely

[poing]

GrumpyTwig said:

Who brake tests someone on a bike? It's stupid enough in a car but you're just asking to be a statistic.

Had it happen to me many years ago, the bloke didn't seem to enjoy being overtaken by a Ford KA, he then overtook us and hit the brakes. It was all I could do not to hit him and it wasn't helped by the fact there 4 of us in the car, in the dark and rain. I was close enough that I lost sight of his rear tyre, I actually thought I'd hit him and even checked my bumper later for tyre marks.

[CAPP0]

poing said:

GrumpyTwig said:

Who brake tests someone on a bike? It's stupid enough in a car but you're just asking to be a statistic.

Had it happen to me many years ago, the bloke didn't seem to enjoy being overtaken by a Ford KA, he then overtook us and hit the brakes. It was all I could do not to hit him and it wasn't helped by the fact there 4 of us in the car, in the dark and rain. I was close enough that I lost sight of his rear tyre, I actually thought I'd hit him and even checked my bumper later for tyre marks.

Conversely, I was once brake tested by a car when I was on a bike. The driver clearly wasn't all that bright, because a few miles downtime road he pulled into a petrol station. I felt it my civic duty to also pull in and, well, erm, explain to him how dangerous his actions were.

[Blakewater]

What did the guy in the Nissan at 8.01 do to deserve being side swiped by the guy in the Mazda? He's driving along, the guy in the Mazda objects to not having a clear run off the sliproad and to having to slow a little and merge in behind and decides to sideswipe the Nissan.

[ashleyman]

Would you say this was poor observation from the bus or is he just enforcing his right be let out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yItL32kngbQ

This woman almost drove into the side of the blue Ford. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prMtTIe4rE

[Frimley111R]

Blakewater said:

What did the guy in the Nissan at 8.01 do to deserve being side swiped by the guy in the Mazda? He's driving along, the guy in the Mazda objects to not having a clear run off the sliproad and to having to slow a little and merge in behind and decides to sideswipe the Nissan.

Not sure, it was almost like he just lost control a bit.

As said, lots of satisfying 'smacks in the back' for brake testers! I'd seen the bike one before, his stupidity almost got him under the wheels of the lorry.

[mistakenplane]

ashleyman said:

Would you say this was poor observation from the bus or is he just enforcing his right be let out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yItL32kngbQ

This woman almost drove into the side of the blue Ford. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prMtTIe4rE

Buses will force their way out, usually because no one lets them go. The RR had more than enough time to see it happen and back off.

[jamei303]

ashleyman said:

Would you say this was poor observation from the bus or is he just enforcing his right be let out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yItL32kngbQ

What right?

I often don't let buses out because I don't want to sit behind them breathing their stty Euro III derv smoke. Hybrid ones I'm more inclined to let in front of me.

[ashleyman]

jamei303 said:

ashleyman said:

Would you say this was poor observation from the bus or is he just enforcing his right be let out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yItL32kngbQ

What right?

I often don't let buses out because I don't want to sit behind them breathing their stty Euro III derv smoke. Hybrid ones I'm more inclined to let in front of me.

I thought that you had to give way to buses leaving bus stops.