The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

[Dromedary66]

Benjy911 said:

Had this yesterday on the M1, realised I wasn't stopping in time so eased off the brakes a bit and went for the gap between the car and the armco, luckily it worked out as I avoided the car and the armco and the car behind me ended up 3ft from the Vectra's bumper. Could have been a messy sandwich especially as there had also been a Kia between the Vectra and Skoda that swerved into the middle lane at the last second.

All caused I assume by someone having a nosey at the other side. Watching it back I shouldn't have eased off after the initial hard braking but the car behind had got very close and I didn't think it was actually coming to a dead stop. I believe the white Astra estate in the middle lane had been 2 behind in the outside lane which shows how quickly it was going before it all came to a stop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhdX_r6Xwek

Good save - definitely sounds like a bit of rubber necking caused that - not helped by that woman standing by the central reservation. If vehicles in the oncoming lane started moving again she'd be stuck there for god knows how long!

[diddles]

Bennet said:

Benjy911 said:

Had this yesterday on the M1, realised I wasn't stopping in time so eased off the brakes a bit and went for the gap between the car and the armco, luckily it worked out as I avoided the car and the armco and the car behind me ended up 3ft from the Vectra's bumper. Could have been a messy sandwich especially as there had also been a Kia between the Vectra and Skoda that swerved into the middle lane at the last second.

All caused I assume by someone having a nosey at the other side. Watching it back I shouldn't have eased off after the initial hard braking but the car behind had got very close and I didn't think it was actually coming to a dead stop. I believe the white Astra estate in the middle lane had been 2 behind in the outside lane which shows how quickly it was going before it all came to a stop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhdX_r6Xwek

I think you did well under the circumstances, but with respect, I'd suggest that that was all caused by everyone involved driving far too close to the car in front.

Agreed, driving too close to the vehicle in front caused that. 2 second rule...

[ShaunTheSheep]

diddles said:

Agreed, driving too close to the vehicle in front caused that. 2 second rule...

Yeah i agree but still a damned good save and worthy of credit! A friend's young daughter was injured in a similar incident recently that had the following car hit, rather than avoid so it was potentially a good save in more than 1 way.

[blueg33]

I agree, cars were too close together, but leaving enough space on motorways these days can be like going backwards. Someone alwsys pulls into it, so you drop back and someone else pulls into it.

[vikingaero]

SmoothCriminal said:

Benjy911 said:

Had this yesterday on the M1, realised I wasn't stopping in time so eased off the brakes a bit and went for the gap between the car and the armco, luckily it worked out as I avoided the car and the armco and the car behind me ended up 3ft from the Vectra's bumper. Could have been a messy sandwich especially as there had also been a Kia between the Vectra and Skoda that swerved into the middle lane at the last second.

All caused I assume by someone having a nosey at the other side. Watching it back I shouldn't have eased off after the initial hard braking but the car behind had got very close and I didn't think it was actually coming to a dead stop. I believe the white Astra estate in the middle lane had been 2 behind in the outside lane which shows how quickly it was going before it all came to a stop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhdX_r6Xwek

Please tell me you didn't pull up to the crash barrier like those other muppets did.

Agree. Priority in slowed traffic would have been to get all vehicles onto the hard shoulder. If there were cars still passing at NSL then they are nobs and it's a different matter.

[Geekman]

diddles said:

Agreed, driving too close to the vehicle in front caused that. 2 second rule...

Even if you keep a safe distance (which is basically impossible on a busy motorway) chances are the car behind you won't. He did pretty well given the situation IMO.

[ORD]

Geekman said:

Even if you keep a safe distance (which is basically impossible on a busy motorway) chances are the car behind you won't. He did pretty well given the situation IMO.

No. It isn't. I do it every single time. It just takes some concentration.

Better to try a bit harder and keep yourself and others safe.

[Geekman]

ORD said:

No. It isn't. I do it every single time. It just takes some concentration.

Better to try a bit harder and keep yourself and others safe.

Well when I used to drive on the m25 every day, nobody, including police cars and ambulances would keep within at least 2 seconds of the car in front. If you drop back every time somebody pulls into the gap in front of you, you'll just ps off whoever is behind you, they'll all bunch up, and there just ends up being another accident.

I know it's fashionable on PH to tell everybody what an amazing driver you are and criticise everybody else but it gets a bit wearing after a while.

[ORD]

Geekman said:

Well when I used to drive on the m25 every day, nobody, including police cars and ambulances would keep within at least 2 seconds of the car in front. If you drop back every time somebody pulls into the gap in front of you, you'll just ps off whoever is behind you, they'll all bunch up, and there just ends up being another accident.

I know it's fashionable on PH to tell everybody what an amazing driver you are and criticise everybody else but it gets a bit wearing after a while.

Still complete nonsense. That's not how numbers work. A 2 second gap can be maintained in literally any traffic conditions. The fact that people cannot be bothered does not make it impossible.

[Stickyfinger]

Geekman said:

Well when I used to drive on the m25 every day, nobody, including police cars and ambulances would keep within at least 2 seconds of the car in front. If you drop back every time somebody pulls into the gap in front of you, you'll just ps off whoever is behind you, they'll all bunch up, and there just ends up being another accident.

This

[Geekman]

ORD said:

Still complete nonsense. That's not how numbers work. A 2 second gap can be maintained in literally any traffic conditions. The fact that people cannot be bothered does not make it impossible.

Just because you can physically do something doesn't mean it's always the best course of action. If you're on a 2 lane DC and a car on the inside lane is doing 69.9MPH, technically you could pass them at 70MPH, but most of us would go a bit quicker to make the pass or indeed not pass at all, as it avoids winding up everybody around you. Yes, even on a very busy motorway you may be able to maintain a gap of 2 seconds 100% of the time (although personally I've never seen that), but as the people around you aren't computer controlled robots, you're likely to wind them up.

Anyway, you're obviously the type of person who sees everything in black and white, and I'm not, so we're never going to agree.

[Mr2Mike]

ORD said:

Still complete nonsense. That's not how numbers work. A 2 second gap can be maintained in literally any traffic conditions. The fact that people cannot be bothered does not make it impossible.

What happens when someone pulls into your 2 second gap? You no longer have a two second gap, so you have failed to maintain it. Are you saying this never happens to you?

[Dromedary66]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/29/idiotic...

[blueg33]

ORD said:

Geekman said:

Well when I used to drive on the m25 every day, nobody, including police cars and ambulances would keep within at least 2 seconds of the car in front. If you drop back every time somebody pulls into the gap in front of you, you'll just ps off whoever is behind you, they'll all bunch up, and there just ends up being another accident.

I know it's fashionable on PH to tell everybody what an amazing driver you are and criticise everybody else but it gets a bit wearing after a while.

Still complete nonsense. That's not how numbers work. A 2 second gap can be maintained in literally any traffic conditions. The fact that people cannot be bothered does not make it impossible.

Utter nonsense. If a car pulls into the gap its not a 2 second gap until you slow down or it speeds up. Neither happen instantly.

I have seen a car pull into a 2 second gap and immediately brake and surprise surprise the car behind them ran into the back of them. I provided a witness statement to both the police and the insurers.

I can only surmise that you don't drive at anything like peak times on roads like the M6 between Birmingham and Manchester.

[ORD]

blueg33 said:

Utter nonsense. If a car pulls into the gap its not a 2 second gap until you slow down or it speeds up. Neither happen instantly.

I have seen a car pull into a 2 second gap and immediately brake and surprise surprise the car behind them ran into the back of them. I provided a witness statement to both the police and the insurers.

I can only surmise that you don't drive at anything like peak times on roads like the M6 between Birmingham and Manchester.

I've driven on busy motorways plenty of times. Of course you cannot maintain a 2 second gap for every split second of a journey. That's not what we are talking about, and I think you know that! We're talking about people just giving up on maintaining a proper gap.

[blueg33]

ORD said:

I've driven on busy motorways plenty of times. Of course you cannot maintain a 2 second gap for every split second of a journey. That's not what we are talking about, and I think you know that! We're talking about people just giving up on maintaining a proper gap.

Actually, from your post it didn't look like you were saying that.

As I said earlier, you can virtually go backwards on a busy motorway as people keep filling the 2 second gap. That makes it hard to maintain the gap. M6, M25, M42 are all bad in this respect.

[Janesy B]

Two relatively quiet lanes with not much in them but all doing the same speed, and L3 with everyone falling over themselves to get past. See it all the time.

All the more reason to shoot MLMs.

Edited by Janesy B on Sunday 29th May 19:40

[woja]

I bet we've all felt like doing this at one point or another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfdJjutPmA&t=...

[Alucidnation]

woja said:

I bet we've all felt like doing this at one point or another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfdJjutPmA&t=...

Oh dear but....

[Sump]

woja said:

I bet we've all felt like doing this at one point or another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfdJjutPmA&t=...

Avoidable by braking at 0:16.