The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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NinjaPower said:
Did we watch the same video?

The biker rode in his own lane without passing anyone or undertaking anything for at least 100 metres before stopping at the roundabout and being rear ended by a van that must have been following him for that same hundred metres.
Let me have another look

JamesRF

1,051 posts

98 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I can only think saaby93 is watching a different video, the biker wasn't in the vans blind spot at all.

It wasn't even like he nipped up the inside of him in the same lane, the vans were in the right lane as he passed them and he's clearly well in front at the roundabout with no reason for them to not see him.

Some people's perception is genuinely worrying on here confused

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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saaby93 said:
NinjaPower said:
Did we watch the same video?

The biker rode in his own lane without passing anyone or undertaking anything for at least 100 metres before stopping at the roundabout and being rear ended by a van that must have been following him for that same hundred metres.
Let me have another look
Yes youre right.
My excuse is the video play back skips from time to time getmecoat
The bike had its own lane the DPD van decided to change lane and undertake the corsa and bumped into the bike it hadnt seen stopped there.
Clear lack of observation by the DVD guy

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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saaby93 said:
Let me have another look
Good grief

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Blind spot? The blind spot just in front of the passenger side headlight? Obscured by the windscreen perhaps. Bad for visibility those windscreens being made of glass and all.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Oldandslow said:
Blind spot? The blind spot just in front of the passenger side headlight? Obscured by the windscreen perhaps. Bad for visibility those windscreens being made of glass and all.
hehe ok ok - see above

The trouble with being human is your brain creates an image of what it thinks is around you and your eye updates that picture.
If your eye hasnt scanned the bit that's changed you wont know the change is there
Pretty much like me watching the video and the player jumping the key couple of seconds
As you were beer


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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ambuletz said:
Mammasaid said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/shockin...

Thoughts?

Car driver in wrong by not indicating, biker in wrong by undertaking in bus lane?
100% driver
many bus lanes can be used by motorbikes, also it depends on the time of day, was the bus lane in force or not? if not then the golf was even more in the wrong as they should me in the left most lane. hardly undertaking when the car is the one thats slowing down.
Looking at the footage again, it appears to me that the biker sped up and was going for an undertake just as the car went by the two manholes in the road.




vikingaero

10,345 posts

169 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Starfighter said:
I would expect DPD to be taking action over that. The RTC was one thing but the attitude, refusal to supply details and then driving off would be grounds for dismissal.
I emailed DPD about this because I sometimes cover Risk Management and companies st themselves stupid about Reputation.

A positive response on a non-working day for us nine to fivers:

"Thank you for taking the time to contact me about this. We have already been made aware of this incident on the 23rd June, and are co-operating in full with the individuals concerned.

Please be assured that we are assisting where possible and are fully co-operating with the investigation.

Kind regards,

Sinead

Sinead Croke
Director of Customer Experience
DPD Group"

AJXX1

334 posts

119 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Alucidnation said:
Looking at the footage again, it appears to me that the biker sped up and was going for an undertake just as the car went by the two manholes in the road.
Better source (and full length): http://www.newsflare.com/video/76635/other/nasty-m...
(Sorry but that telegraph video's website is a load of ste).

Personally, I don't think the biker is blameless, he's clearly trying to undertake in a bus lane and shouldn't have been there to begin with. The bus lane sign clearly says taxi/bus NOT motorbike (see longer source above).

Yes car is a knob for not indicating, but really - biker in the bus lane is going for a clear undertake and the road markings clearly indicate that a left turn is possible (which the car did).



Edited by AJXX1 on Saturday 25th June 16:32

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Drive Blind said:
in two minds about posting this.

It's not very exciting but it's so typical of the 40mph doddlers that are so common on our roads these days and the frustration they generate. I think they were down to 25mph at one point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbVTdLbcH80
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.



saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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WJNB said:
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.
One day wont posts like these get their comeuppance too - how close is it to incitement?

AJXX1

334 posts

119 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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WJNB said:
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.
Agreed. This is a clear cut case of dawdling. Could tell straight away when the traffic in front of the dawdler rapidly disappeared into the distance.

Vipers

32,889 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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saaby93 said:
smithyithy said:
Haven't seen this posted yet, DPD driver knocks runs into a biker, argues, denies insurance information, gets aggressive with a bystander then drives off laugh

https://youtu.be/3BWAZ3-xWJ4
I was already thinking the biker was taking some risk but was so surprised when he got knocked off
I guess the van hadn't realised the bike had undertaken and parked in front
Van's fault for not checking what he thought was clear, now wasnt?
Bikers fault for not thinking about blind spots?
Any issues with road layout?
Watched a few times, don't think blind spots come into it, the bike was well in front of the van, could easily have been a cyclist. In my humble opinion the van driver just did t see him for reasons he knows. Apart from not bloody paying attention.




smile

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Vipers said:
saaby93 said:
smithyithy said:
Haven't seen this posted yet, DPD driver knocks runs into a biker, argues, denies insurance information, gets aggressive with a bystander then drives off laugh

https://youtu.be/3BWAZ3-xWJ4
I was already thinking the biker was taking some risk but was so surprised when he got knocked off
I guess the van hadn't realised the bike had undertaken and parked in front
Van's fault for not checking what he thought was clear, now wasnt?
Bikers fault for not thinking about blind spots?
Any issues with road layout?
Watched a few times, don't think blind spots come into it, the bike was well in front of the van, could easily have been a cyclist. In my humble opinion the van driver just did t see him for reasons he knows. Apart from not bloody paying attention.

smile
yes yes I know I already said getmecoat
The video playback demon got me
Doesnt anyone read subsequent posts tumbleweed

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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AJXX1 said:
Alucidnation said:
Looking at the footage again, it appears to me that the biker sped up and was going for an undertake just as the car went by the two manholes in the road.
Better source (and full length): http://www.newsflare.com/video/76635/other/nasty-m...
(Sorry but that telegraph video's website is a load of ste).

Personally, I don't think the biker is blameless, he's clearly trying to undertake in a bus lane and shouldn't have been there to begin with. The bus lane sign clearly says taxi/bus NOT motorbike (see longer source above).

Yes car is a knob for not indicating, but really - biker in the bus lane is going for a clear undertake and the road markings clearly indicate that a left turn is possible (which the car did).



Edited by AJXX1 on Saturday 25th June 16:32
I'm pleased you posted that link, as it now clearly shows the biker is in a bus lane, and as you've said, the sign says taxi/bus but not motorbike.

The biker looked to be going for an overtake in the bus lane, but the car obviously stopped that move.


Now, forgive me if i'm wrong, but I was taught to drive defensively and expect the unexpected from everyone, basically thinking everyone can be an idiot until proven otherwise.

What would have happened if the car had braked and swerved to avoid an obstacle in the road?

The biker was following, he should have been going at a speed that would allow him to stop safely if something happened in front of him.

If the car suddenly pulled up at the side and stopped, possibly due to some emergency in the car, it would be the biker's fault for not leaving enough space to stop safely.

It's riding/driving basics. Expect the unexpected and you won't go wrong.

blueg33

35,922 posts

224 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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WJNB said:
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.
Oi. I listen to the Archers when I am driving the Evora. Leave the Archers out of this.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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WJNB said:
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.
And when it is YOUR Grandad who for whatever reason is going slow ?

What a dreadful post and attitude.....you Sir SUCK

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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sim16v said:
What would have happened if the car had braked and swerved to avoid an obstacle in the road?
They would have been liable for any damages or injuries to the biker by swerving into them.

That's obvious. What's less obvious is the location of the video, some cities permit bikes in bus lanes. Cities like Edinburgh have signs that don't mention bikes but they are allowed just now.



Edited by ShaunTheSheep on Saturday 25th June 20:09

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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No, if, car braked and swerved to avoid something in the road, pothole, child, something fallen from a wagon.

Biker runs in to the back of the car, the same as the video.

The biker even said he couldn't stop in time, er because he was going to fast for the road conditions ahead, whilst going down a bus lane.

It's the biker's fault.

And the second vid clip of the incident gives the location, the bus lane signs don't allow motorbikes.




Scuba_steve

574 posts

180 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Not quite Dashcam, but 'filmed from the side of the road' cam...

Would love to know what happened in the run up to this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeR9bOFShg8

Driving instructor runs over man who gets out of his car during argument.
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