The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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hondafanatic

4,969 posts

201 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Usget said:
hondafanatic said:
There was a BBC news website article (I tried to find it but my Google skills have failed me) that addresses this issue in India. For the main part people are frightened to get involved because of corruption. There are numerous cases where someone has tried to help, the authorities turn up and then arrest anyone there...

Actually I see it's been answered further up...I should have read all of the posts.
I read the same article - it was about a bloke campaigning to change the behaviour through legislation. And I can't find it either.
Glad I wasn't making it up because doubt did set in when I couldn't find the article. It was very recent wasn't it?

mattlad

261 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Have another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0RBs6Rd5k

Van driver texting or otherwise distracted?

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Usget said:
hondafanatic said:
There was a BBC news website article (I tried to find it but my Google skills have failed me) that addresses this issue in India. For the main part people are frightened to get involved because of corruption. There are numerous cases where someone has tried to help, the authorities turn up and then arrest anyone there...

Actually I see it's been answered further up...I should have read all of the posts.
I read the same article - it was about a bloke campaigning to change the behaviour through legislation. And I can't find it either.
It's not that Chinese or Indian people are completely uncaring. When faced with someone lying in the road they have the moral dilemma of helping that person and risking legal prosecution and bankruptcy, which would harm their families as well as themselves. They can't trust the person who needs help not to turn on them and the police and government to assume they only helped out of guilt, or to pin the blame for the accident on them because they need to pin it on somebody to be seen to be dealing with the accident.

An army medic who taught me first aid said that when he went to Germany he was told to avoid giving CPR because of a case where a woman sued the person who saved her by using it because he inevitably cracked her ribs. It does seem to be a myth going round the army with no proof of its truth.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/german-su...

However, nurses and doctors in the UK have said they've been advised not to divulge their professions when giving first aid outside hospital settings as it may increase the likelihood of them being sued if what they do doesn't work out perfectly.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Blakewater said:
An army medic who taught me first aid said that when he went to Germany he was told to avoid giving CPR because of a case where a woman sued the person who saved her by using it because he inevitably cracked her ribs. It does seem to be a myth going round the army with no proof of its truth.
It's difficult to know the truth of these things. As a Scout we were being taught first aid by a leader who happened to be an ex-policeman. He says he'd attended a car accident where a woman had a piece of the car speared into her upper thigh area and she was bleeding a lot. He applied pressure and stemmed the flow as best he could despite fearing the worst as she'd passed out. In time she recovered enough to try and sue him for some form of sexual harassment because he touched her upper thigh without her permission (e.g. unconscious)

Not surprisingly it got thrown out of court and that was the end of it. (I think the moral of the story was always try to stop the bleeding regardless of how dead you might believe them to be)

IF it's true, it go's to show just how nutty some people are.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Munter said:
Blakewater said:
An army medic who taught me first aid said that when he went to Germany he was told to avoid giving CPR because of a case where a woman sued the person who saved her by using it because he inevitably cracked her ribs. It does seem to be a myth going round the army with no proof of its truth.
It's difficult to know the truth of these things. As a Scout we were being taught first aid by a leader who happened to be an ex-policeman. He says he'd attended a car accident where a woman had a piece of the car speared into her upper thigh area and she was bleeding a lot. He applied pressure and stemmed the flow as best he could despite fearing the worst as she'd passed out. In time she recovered enough to try and sue him for some form of sexual harassment because he touched her upper thigh without her permission (e.g. unconscious)

Not surprisingly it got thrown out of court and that was the end of it. (I think the moral of the story was always try to stop the bleeding regardless of how dead you might believe them to be)

IF it's true, it go's to show just how nutty some people are.
I do regular first aid courses to maintain my ski instructor licence and also because I volunteer in a leader capacity for members groups. The message we're always given is that noone has ever been succesfully sued in the UK for attempting to help and administer first aid. Cases have been brought, but have always, to date, been thrown out.

Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

110 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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feef said:
Munter said:
Blakewater said:
An army medic who taught me first aid said that when he went to Germany he was told to avoid giving CPR because of a case where a woman sued the person who saved her by using it because he inevitably cracked her ribs. It does seem to be a myth going round the army with no proof of its truth.
It's difficult to know the truth of these things. As a Scout we were being taught first aid by a leader who happened to be an ex-policeman. He says he'd attended a car accident where a woman had a piece of the car speared into her upper thigh area and she was bleeding a lot. He applied pressure and stemmed the flow as best he could despite fearing the worst as she'd passed out. In time she recovered enough to try and sue him for some form of sexual harassment because he touched her upper thigh without her permission (e.g. unconscious)

Not surprisingly it got thrown out of court and that was the end of it. (I think the moral of the story was always try to stop the bleeding regardless of how dead you might believe them to be)

IF it's true, it go's to show just how nutty some people are.
I do regular first aid courses to maintain my ski instructor licence and also because I volunteer in a leader capacity for members groups. The message we're always given is that noone has ever been succesfully sued in the UK for attempting to help and administer first aid. Cases have been brought, but have always, to date, been thrown out.
On a slightly different subject, is it true that ambulance / ambiwlans / fire drivers have to contest their speeding fines?

ashleyman

6,987 posts

99 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Peanut Gallery said:
On a slightly different subject, is it true that ambulance / ambiwlans / fire drivers have to contest their speeding fines?
Yes, as far as I'm aware every speeding ticket has to be contested to a superior. The fines all go to the registered keeper of the ambulance, then the driver at the time has to say what job/run their on and why they were speeding. If you can show you were on a job at the time then it gets dropped but if for whatever reason you weren't on a job but still speeding then it all goes on your license like it would any normal speeding offence.

I'm sure there's more to it than that but the FIL is a paramedic and response driver and he always tells us about this stuff. He said it never used to be an issue because if the lights were on they could see you were responding but with the new LED lights they don't show up on the camera which is why every ticket has to be checked.

Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

110 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Ta! beer

mistakenplane

426 posts

120 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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mattlad said:
Have another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0RBs6Rd5k

Van driver texting or otherwise distracted?
Must have been. Happens far too often now.

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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ShaunTheSheep said:
To be fair, in this case it would be the same in the UK if we also had their rules. It's something like if you go help someone after a hit and run, you're responsible for their medical bills if they can't pay.
While not quite that bad, I stopped to help a motorcyclist who'd had a fall in front of me last week. He had over braked in slow traffic, lost his balance and hit the vehicle in front resulting in a scuffed up knee and a lot of shock. A few others helped with directing traffic while I helped the guy out. Comments from the locals in Dudley were

"Get out the fking road" (despite there been plenty of space to get around one at a time
"fking tts" from a bus driver who was uni pressed at the lady directing traffic
"Stop your fking gawping" when I was trying to get out of the truck to help the chap (took a while as others who saw it drove off and I couldn't get the door fully open.
"Hope it hurts" was a lovely comment from some chaps in a VW Up!

I think it is a case of cretins are everywhere.

The young chap was OK in the end once he had calmed down smile Must admit I was shocked at how people reacted, I thought there'd be more concern for the injured rather than how they'd delayed motorists for 20seconds.


Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
WJNB said:
Just spotted this & know the road well.
My 6th sense would have told me that car trouble. The warning signs were that he tended to wander from side to side albeit within his lane so may be listening to the Archers. His speed was unnecessarily slow which I would have interpreted as deliberate knowing there was a truck behind.
Probably with little to do & all the time in the world to do it & probably bored with an empty life now retired he was able to take out his bitterness on somebody else, especially somebody who has a job & a purpose in life ( & a good woman!)
These living dead populate the south of England especially.
Tailgating no way yet in a truck you 'ain't never going to get by him. Oh the joy of going straight into him when he braked.
One of these days an old git like that is going to followed back to his destination & have his car either keyed, his home burgled or simply stabbed or shot - it happens elsewhere in the world & one day here.
Imagine the headlines UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON PENSIONER. Sometimes the perpetrator becomes the victim & it serves them right.
And when it is YOUR Grandad who for whatever reason is going slow ?

What a dreadful post and attitude.....you Sir SUCK
His driving wasn't entirely smooth through the bends, but not everyone is a driving god. A powerfully built type in a Lotus could have driven the same way and not been hounded like the lorry driver thought he could hound an old chap driving a brown Vauxhall. The worst driving I've encountered from people determined to get past me at all costs, regardless of me not dithering, since taking L plates off my car has been when I had a Toyota Auris hire car. Special mention can go to the occasion my grey haired grandma was in the back seat, for added car full of old biddies effect, and a van driver at a busy junction on my inside and turned right in front of me. He then proceeded to do just under 40mph in front of me for miles until we reached a car park we both turned into and he blocked my way in front of me.

The old chap was an idiot for reacting to the lorry driver but the lorry driver was being an idiot to provoke him in the first place. If you try to bully people you're going to get a reaction and one day the person driving the OAP car the lorry driver thinks he can tailgate may be someone who gets out and gives him a hiding.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Crush said:
ShaunTheSheep said:
To be fair, in this case it would be the same in the UK if we also had their rules. It's something like if you go help someone after a hit and run, you're responsible for their medical bills if they can't pay.
While not quite that bad, I stopped to help a motorcyclist who'd had a fall in front of me last week. He had over braked in slow traffic, lost his balance and hit the vehicle in front resulting in a scuffed up knee and a lot of shock. A few others helped with directing traffic while I helped the guy out. Comments from the locals in Dudley were

"Get out the fking road" (despite there been plenty of space to get around one at a time
"fking tts" from a bus driver who was uni pressed at the lady directing traffic
"Stop your fking gawping" when I was trying to get out of the truck to help the chap (took a while as others who saw it drove off and I couldn't get the door fully open.
"Hope it hurts" was a lovely comment from some chaps in a VW Up!

I think it is a case of cretins are everywhere.

The young chap was OK in the end once he had calmed down smile Must admit I was shocked at how people reacted, I thought there'd be more concern for the injured rather than how they'd delayed motorists for 20seconds.
Many moons ago I was T'boned by a young lady who was late for work so she just cut infront of me at the last minute despite there being no cars behind me. After I came to, I could hear her balling of to the side of the road as I lay roughly across the center of the road. After 5 mins a guy came over from somewhere and said......I kid you not.....please don't take this wrong but could you shuffle to one side as theres quite a traffic jam. The 4 people looking after me told him to fk off.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Blakewater said:
the lorry driver was being an idiot to provoke him in the first place. If you try to bully people
The lorry driver explicitly said in the comments that the only times he got close were due to the fact its hard to slow a wagon and he failed to anticipate Mr antagonistic slowing down.

Jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions is an injustice to the driver. It's a PH speciality but still wrong.

If he said thats what happened, then we need evidence to the contrary, not just conjecture. Unfairly labelling someone a bully isn't on.

Of course you could be right, but back it up with something more than "well my car brakes better than that!". Biggest thing I've driven is a piddly 3 tonnes, the brakes are utterly st despite it being a new motorhome in almost factory condition.

Edit: p.s. if Mr antagonistic really believed he was at risk, why the hell did he not get out of the way? Either pull over or fk off into the sunset. Risking doing a sardine impression isn't sensible, whatever the issue. Better to be alive than right as they say...

Balance of probabilities... Mr antagonistic is a iferous wkfk. Ample opportunity to extricate himself from the situation, instead decides to make it last longer then tops it all off with a healthy dose of indignation.


Edited by ShaunTheSheep on Tuesday 28th June 16:33

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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MANIAC! Public roads at over 170!

https://youtu.be/DRg5Sp1iQMc

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The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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edo said:
MANIAC! Public roads at over 170!

https://youtu.be/DRg5Sp1iQMc

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There is an actual thread for that.

Hughesie

12,571 posts

282 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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edo said:
MANIAC! Public roads at over 170!

https://youtu.be/DRg5Sp1iQMc

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You can def hit 190 on the mountain wink

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Bit late to the party, but hey ho.

This old biff in the Vauxhall Dullorama 9000, what's his problem?

I use a bicycle to get to and from the office on occasion. I do half the journey on the road and half across small public paths. If I come across a pedestrian going my way, I cycle up behind them, they hear me, look over their shoulder, I smile, they stand to one side, I nip past them and say thanks and off I go. I do my speed, they do their's, we all get along famously.

In the car, however...

What is it about the metal box on wheels that turns some ordinary people into such idiots?

grayme

936 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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ferrariF50lover said:
Bit late to the party, but hey ho.

This old biff in the Vauxhall Dullorama 9000, what's his problem?

I use a bicycle to get to and from the office on occasion. I do half the journey on the road and half across small public paths. If I come across a pedestrian going my way, I cycle up behind them, they hear me, look over their shoulder, I smile, they stand to one side, I nip past them and say thanks and off I go. I do my speed, they do their's, we all get along famously.

In the car, however...

What is it about the metal box on wheels that turns some ordinary people into such idiots?
I'm sure there is something about personal space and shields, etc.

Turning it on its head, how about how people drive into a car park and then get out; suddenly as pedestrians they are blindly walking in front of moving cars without looking... smile

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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grayme said:
I'm sure there is something about personal space and shields, etc.

Turning it on its head, how about how people drive into a car park and then get out; suddenly as pedestrians they are blindly walking in front of moving cars without looking... smile
It's not just the physical shield. There are the rules. That vauxhall was probably reading 50 on the speedo at 45 on the camera. The truck was probably a bit closer than it needed to be if they are both doing the limit. One person appears (from inside the vauxhall), to be breaking the rules.

As a pedestrian in a car park there are no rules. So people do whatever they want.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Experienced my first proper road rage incident for a good few years this morning resulting in a young woman determined that I'd crash into her rear at speed because she took issue at my driving:



First ever time I've uploaded footage in the two years I've had a dashcam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCjy51u738

At 20 seconds in she thought I was too close to her rear ( despite there being plenty of road for a bus between us and no cars in inside line) and brake tested me - all this resulted in was her jolting forward.

At 36 seconds she starts giving me the wker sign.

At 58 seconds as I drive past I get the abuse signs again and I drive along side asking her what the problem is but she has some wire coming out of her ear and continues to give me more abuse.

At 1.23 she drives up my backside flashing her lights and I stupidly make the situation worse by giving her screen wash.

At 2:46 it gets really bad. she's right up my backside giving me more hand signals. I lose my temper and turn my head around gesticulating to tell me what her fking problem is. She undertakes I ignore it then she pulls out and does that.

After the video she's continuing to give me the wker sign for the next two minutes. I unplug my dashcam, drive alongside her and show it her. She does a mock smile pose but then suddenly no more abuse. biggrin








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