The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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woja

13 posts

101 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Chris Stott

13,364 posts

197 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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woja said:
A bit of a close call I'd say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPFWlEZxj9A#t=40
New underpants required for both drivers laugh

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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woja said:
A bit of a close call I'd say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPFWlEZxj9A#t=40
Thats a leon, not an ibiza, isnt it?

zedx19

2,745 posts

140 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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If you have to question whether it was a Leon or Ibiza you need your PH Membership revoking tongue out

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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zedx19 said:
If you have to question whether it was a Leon or Ibiza you need your PH Membership revoking tongue out
Well, in the interests of British non-smugness I didn't want to say "It's definitely a Leon". But it definitely is biggrin

MrChips

3,264 posts

210 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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mistakenplane said:
Cant believe the Yaris video comments.

Coming over a crest you're faced with a car heading towards you in your lane. You slow, brake and eventually pull left to avoid what you think is going to be a head-on collision.

And apparently its the Yaris driver's fault for not dabbing the brakes, keeping cool and calm and slotting past the oncoming car?! Behave. 90% of people would soil themselves when faced with that situation. 100% BMW fault for overtaking when coming up to a bend, on a crest, when you cannot see the road is clear ahead.

Plus the camera is on the driver's head which gives a better view ahead than the eye would see.

1 or 2 seconds faster for either car and its a head on with possibly two fatalities.
I think initially it's the backend goes light, you can see him countersteer into it as the for a split second it was taking him more into the line of the BMW, car grips, and away she goes.

I had one very similar a few months back, and this was down to pure luck that I didn't do the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meARlhOJgQ


Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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MrChips said:
I think initially it's the backend goes light, you can see him countersteer into it as the for a split second it was taking him more into the line of the BMW, car grips, and away she goes.

I had one very similar a few months back, and this was down to pure luck that I didn't do the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meARlhOJgQ
How many of these are caused by the car being overtaken deciding to accelerate...

Given the overtakee apologising to the crashed Yaris driver.

Bennet

2,122 posts

131 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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MrChips said:
I had one very similar a few months back, and this was down to pure luck that I didn't do the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meARlhOJgQ
Did you brake..? It doesn't really look like you slow at all.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Bennet said:
MrChips said:
I had one very similar a few months back, and this was down to pure luck that I didn't do the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meARlhOJgQ
Did you brake..? It doesn't really look like you slow at all.
Looks like he's a lot more experienced than the Yaris driver and lifted to adjust speed exactly as needed, the Yaris driver isn't at fault for causing the accident but it was avoidable by not overreacting as he did.
Not many of us are born with that ability though and the first time it happens we likely all overreact. I know I did the first time I met a rabbit on the road, now I just hit the little fluffy things rather than gathering up a massive fishtail and changing my underwear.
Now I'm an old fart when I come face to face with these near miss overtakes I don't overreact, although maybe because I'm an old fart I don't have the reactions wink

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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MrChips said:
I think initially it's the backend goes light, you can see him countersteer into it as the for a split second it was taking him more into the line of the BMW, car grips, and away she goes.

I had one very similar a few months back, and this was down to pure luck that I didn't do the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meARlhOJgQ
Yes, Yaris driver VERY lucky that his car went left rather than right when he lost control. Not sure who we'd be blaming then.

You had a LOT less time (and a handful more speed) in your clip - and wet roads... Well handled, but that would have twitched me!




Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Could it be said that in the Yaris video the driver at fault is the one being overtaken? If he was driving faster then the BMW wouldn't have felt the need to attempt a pass. Slow drivers - they're dangerous.










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Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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TazLondon said:
woja said:
Cammer tailgaits for a bit. Other driver overreacts a tad I'd say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyZjFl1WWBE
The woman looked very upset and stressed. In situations like this (where someone brake-checks you) just leave it. Get some distance between you and the car in front and enjoy the rest of the day.

People can be in all sorts of emotional states when they're driving and you never know how many are on the edge of flipping for whatever reason.

Best not to get involved. There's no value in trying to score points against other drivers.
He's one of "those" people who like to score little victories by not letting people merge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aanROI1I0cU

Maybe he was trying to flirt with the woman in the Ford Fusion and he's angry on the road because his awkwardness with women has left him single and frustrated with nothing but computer games for comfort.



Edited by Blakewater on Monday 4th July 23:57

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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GTIAlex said:
Stickyfinger said:
those 1.0 Yarises are proper scary quick, well known for their huge power and blistering speed

everything is relative......70mph (easy in a Yaris) is "quick" for it on that road.

Yaris ALSO could not stop inside their vision distance, IF there had been a turning tractor over the crest ? what then.

BMW is totally at fault however.
To be fair, I sold my Clio 182 to drive a £400 Yaris as shown in the video and it wasn't a slouch once you got it up to speed, nice revvy engine and was able to carry plenty of speed through the corners, very chuckable.
We had a 1 year old 1.0 Yaris as a loan car, horrid, underpowered piece of ste to drive. Nicely spec'd, decent amount of room inside for a small car, but the driving experience made me hate it. It wouldn't even pull up a slight incline on the motorway in top gear at 75.

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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blueg33 said:
Mr Snrub said:
Nightmare said:
CoolHands said:
But anyway, if he hadn't braked he would have been ok, there would have been no collision.
This is pretty much my view too. I'm not sure there is any blame to attribute for a collision that wasn't going to happen.

The Yaris driver or car (if the tyre prediction is right) just reacts totally wrongly and basically puts itself in the wall. It really didn't need to happen. My guess is driver hasn't got loads of experience and panic-steered left while braking or car lurched left due to stty brakes/tyres with same end result of wheel going onto soft verge
I'd still put a lot of blame on the BMW. If you drive in a way that makes other road users perform emergency stops or manoeuvres, you are doing something badly wrong
I agree.

Yaris driver was obviously inexperienced and reacted to the BMW. The Tsris may also have had tyre or brake issues
Young, inexperienced driver, first car? He sees car on his side of the road coming at speed, probably 80+? And panics, brakes and turns left to avoid the collision he thinks is coming. No blame to him at all, BMW overtaking at the wrong point, they know they caused an incident and didn't stop.

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Byker28i said:
Young, inexperienced driver, first car? He sees car on his side of the road coming at speed, probably 80+? And panics, brakes and turns left to avoid the collision he thinks is coming. No blame to him at all, BMW overtaking at the wrong point, they know they caused an incident and didn't stop.
His 'left turn' was totally involuntary. Lots of yaw from the moment the O/S brakes lock (look at the parallel front and rear skid marks at the end of the video). The car's out of control long before it leaves the road.

Not excusing the BMW for a moment, but I can imagine the Yaris having almost exactly the same accident if there had been a parked car on his side of the road opposite the house, rather than an overtaking BMW.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Blakewater said:
TazLondon said:
woja said:
Cammer tailgaits for a bit. Other driver overreacts a tad I'd say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyZjFl1WWBE
The woman looked very upset and stressed. In situations like this (where someone brake-checks you) just leave it. Get some distance between you and the car in front and enjoy the rest of the day.

People can be in all sorts of emotional states when they're driving and you never know how many are on the edge of flipping for whatever reason.

Best not to get involved. There's no value in trying to score points against other drivers.
He's one of "those" people who like to score little victories by not letting people merge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aanROI1I0cU

Maybe he was trying to flirt with the woman in the Ford Fusion and he's angry on the road because his awkwardness with women has left him single and frustrated with nothing but computer games for comfort.



Edited by Blakewater on Monday 4th July 23:57
Looked like a little dip in the road after the merger, why didn't the cam car just lift off for 2 secs then carry on as normal?

heebeegeetee

28,735 posts

248 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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xRIEx said:
Yeah, those 1.0 Yarises are proper scary quick, well known for their huge power and blistering speed. rolleyes

Come on, how can "a fair amount of blame" fall on the Yaris driver? He was on his side of the road FFS. The BMW was making a dangerous overtake with (obviously) insufficient visibility. "Be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear" goes out of the window* when the closing speed is 130+ mph. Why wasn't the BMW driver travelling at a speed so he could stop in the distance he could see to be clear?

Some of the judgementalism on here beggars belief.



 *Just like the Yaris driver.
I see the overtake as an issue to slow down for, not slam on the brakes, steer up the verge towards a wall and put the car on its side for.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
xRIEx said:
Yeah, those 1.0 Yarises are proper scary quick, well known for their huge power and blistering speed. rolleyes

Come on, how can "a fair amount of blame" fall on the Yaris driver? He was on his side of the road FFS. The BMW was making a dangerous overtake with (obviously) insufficient visibility. "Be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear" goes out of the window* when the closing speed is 130+ mph. Why wasn't the BMW driver travelling at a speed so he could stop in the distance he could see to be clear?

Some of the judgementalism on here beggars belief.



 *Just like the Yaris driver.
I see the overtake as an issue to slow down for, not slam on the brakes, steer up the verge towards a wall and put the car on its side for.
Video can be very deceptive but I can't see why the Yaris needed to react at all (but in the preamble drive it had the look of a driver exceeding his ability and heading for an accident). If you look at the point where the BMW starts to move across back, the gap to the Yaris is massive. I doubt he even needed to lift off.
But like I say, video is very deceptive with speed/distance, so I couldn't lay blame for sure.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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4x4Tyke said:
Check out those tyres. Well, physics caught up with him and gave him a hard slap. 14 day ban though for doing that and having no insurance?

ETA - Dawdling, lane hogging Peugeot is almost as annoying. GET OUT OF THE fkING WAY!!
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