The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II
Discussion
There is absolutely no way that the coach driver "misjudges the length of his coach" he deliberately swerved into the car with no regard for the consequences. I hope he has his license taken off him.
And Im not sure how accurate the coach speed limiters are as I have had them go passed me when I am sat at 65mph on the speedo so probably somewhere between 60 and 65.
I think some lorry and coach drivers really forget just how much damage they can do when they try and bully, especially in 50mph ave4age zones and before anyone says I don't know what I am talking about I have my hgv license and have driven a wide variety of different sized vehicles. I know that most car drivers cant comprehend the differences there are driving bigger vehicles and how much time and space they need to react to things. I used to drive old bedford MJ's that took forever to get anywhere and when a car driver forces their wa6 in front of you only to slam on their brakes to pull off somewhere it gets pretty annoying.
I personally think you should be forced to have a drive or at least a ride in a cab of an hgv when you get your car license so you can understand it.
And Im not sure how accurate the coach speed limiters are as I have had them go passed me when I am sat at 65mph on the speedo so probably somewhere between 60 and 65.
I think some lorry and coach drivers really forget just how much damage they can do when they try and bully, especially in 50mph ave4age zones and before anyone says I don't know what I am talking about I have my hgv license and have driven a wide variety of different sized vehicles. I know that most car drivers cant comprehend the differences there are driving bigger vehicles and how much time and space they need to react to things. I used to drive old bedford MJ's that took forever to get anywhere and when a car driver forces their wa6 in front of you only to slam on their brakes to pull off somewhere it gets pretty annoying.
I personally think you should be forced to have a drive or at least a ride in a cab of an hgv when you get your car license so you can understand it.
zollburgers said:
Coach driver instigated it by not moving left.
,...........,..
What would you estimate the time gap to the car behind if they had moved left at (or just before) the point at which the car driver treats dara to their main beams??,...........,..
I actually think megabusman was being considerate to the overtakee and the impatient car driver didn't want to wait. As presumably they were keen to travel at posted speed limit +1 mph again.
Edited by grimmac on Friday 12th February 23:28
No-one comes out of that with any glory.
Coach has got room to move over, IMO, it's a average-cameraed 50mph past Port Toilet, no-one there is gaining or losing much, if Mr Dashcam wants past then let him risk his licence.... instead, Mr Bus brake-tests him from 50 down to 40, then pulls in and then out again with very little room to spare, for no reason at all.
Mr Dashcam then overtakes on the left with extra gas, and returns the brake-test favour.... yes, from 60 to 40, but he's only doing 60 to get the pass done so the effective test is similar. The brake-test is where the dashcammer loses the high ground to me.
Mr Bus then puts his foot down also going well over the 50 limit to re-pass and then very obviously deliberately hits the car... he's already proved he knows how long his coach is with the earlier pulling out.
Car driver deserves a slap, coach driver deserves a good book throwing.
The coach driver instigated the chain with the first brake test.... giving a long (4 secs) flash of the main beams in order to alert traffic ahead of your presence and wish to pass (given the space is available to the left) is a recognised advanced driving technique. A professional driver should not be stuck out in lane 2 next to an empty lane 1 in the first place, should not rise to the most minor of perceived provocation, and certainly never use their vehicle as a weapon.
Coach has got room to move over, IMO, it's a average-cameraed 50mph past Port Toilet, no-one there is gaining or losing much, if Mr Dashcam wants past then let him risk his licence.... instead, Mr Bus brake-tests him from 50 down to 40, then pulls in and then out again with very little room to spare, for no reason at all.
Mr Dashcam then overtakes on the left with extra gas, and returns the brake-test favour.... yes, from 60 to 40, but he's only doing 60 to get the pass done so the effective test is similar. The brake-test is where the dashcammer loses the high ground to me.
Mr Bus then puts his foot down also going well over the 50 limit to re-pass and then very obviously deliberately hits the car... he's already proved he knows how long his coach is with the earlier pulling out.
Car driver deserves a slap, coach driver deserves a good book throwing.
The coach driver instigated the chain with the first brake test.... giving a long (4 secs) flash of the main beams in order to alert traffic ahead of your presence and wish to pass (given the space is available to the left) is a recognised advanced driving technique. A professional driver should not be stuck out in lane 2 next to an empty lane 1 in the first place, should not rise to the most minor of perceived provocation, and certainly never use their vehicle as a weapon.
grimmac said:
zollburgers said:
Coach driver instigated it by not moving left.
,...........,..
What would you estimate the time gap to the car behind if they had moved left at (or just before) the point at which the car driver treats dara to their main beams??,...........,..
I actually think megabusman was being considerate to the overtakee and the impatient car driver didn't want to wait. As presumably they were keen to travel at posted speed limit +1 mph again.
Edited by grimmac on Friday 12th February 23:28
When the car flashes he has also overtaken the car in the inside lane. Yes the car guy is very impatient nob but that isn't the shocking thing about the video.
Posted limit being 50, most people do an indicated 49 when it's safe to drive past at an indicated 60. I feel the car driver's pain but don't condone his actions.
Shocking. Why does flashing your lights have to be so antagonistic? If you've fallen asleep in the outside lane a flash of the lights is hardly the end of the world.
Scuba_steve said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO2Z1JHFxg
Megabus driver side swipes/brake checks and rams car on motorway after being flashed to move over.
Car driver not innocent in this, bus driver takes to whole other level.
Interesting the first comment on youtube claims to be an employee. 'I drive for megabus and if that was me I'd have wrote your car off.'
Megabus driver side swipes/brake checks and rams car on motorway after being flashed to move over.
Car driver not innocent in this, bus driver takes to whole other level.
Interesting the first comment on youtube claims to be an employee. 'I drive for megabus and if that was me I'd have wrote your car off.'
A spokeswoman for Megabus.com said: “Safety is our absolute priority and we would be concerned by any situation where an employee – or any another road user – did not drive responsibly.
“The camera footage appears to show that, prior to the collision, the car driver was aggressively tailgating the bus and not adhering to safe stopping distances.
“Following the collision, the bus driver reported the incident immediately. He is no longer employed by us."
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/watch...
“The camera footage appears to show that, prior to the collision, the car driver was aggressively tailgating the bus and not adhering to safe stopping distances.
“Following the collision, the bus driver reported the incident immediately. He is no longer employed by us."
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/watch...
MarkRSi said:
Good example of "when two idiots meet"
Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
This. I'm staggered anyone is defending the bus driver. Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
Stays out in L2 after passing a car in L1, gets flashed so pulls over, then swerved back into L2 to block the car. This man is a professional driver with passengers on board a bus ffs!
Car driver is enraged so performs an undertake (understandable) and a brake test (utterly stupid) however for the bus to then a) attempt revenge by s
tting him up with a close 'block' overtake, and b) fk it up by actually hitting the car is utter fkwittery and highly dangerous. I'll bet the passengers were s
tting themselves. I'll give it 6 hours before this is the top story on the Wail website and 48 hours before the bus driver is sacked.
Totally unacceptable.
Edited by hornetrider on Saturday 13th February 08:00
hornetrider said:
Oh, just seen the latest update. No surprise he was sacked.
I think that's attempted murder or fking close to it from the bus driver. He's in L1 BEFORE he passes the car so it looks like he's trying to hit him, or at the very least trying to give him a very near pass.t
tometer:Bus driver in outside lane unnecessarily: 3/10
Car driver flashes lights to let bus know of presence: 1/10
Bus driver pulls out on driver again: 5/10
Bus brake test: 5/10
Car driver 'undertake': 3/10
Car brake test: 5/10
Bus lane change/side swipe: 285/10
Edited by simoid on Saturday 13th February 10:39
I'm not defending either driver and of course the bus driver was being a prick with trying to get as close as possible but I can't help notice that just before the point of collision, the car looks like it's drifting towards the sliproad (as if taking the exit) and then swerves to the right a little and collides with the bus.
The bus driver deserves to have lost his job though. He should have just stayed to the left when he first moved over and then that would have been in the end of it. Just more proof that there really is no point in letting yourself get wound up when out driving.
The bus driver deserves to have lost his job though. He should have just stayed to the left when he first moved over and then that would have been in the end of it. Just more proof that there really is no point in letting yourself get wound up when out driving.
hornetrider said:
MarkRSi said:
Good example of "when two idiots meet"
Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
This. I'm staggered anyone is defending the bus driver. Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
I thought others were maybe watching a different video. Lane hogging, pulling back across to perform a blocking manoeuvre, no that's not enough think I'll do a bit of brake testing while I'm at it. I'd say that pretty much 'instigated' the situation and all while supposedly performing the duties of a professional coach driver!
As for ramming the guy off the road at the end, deserved to lose his job for that one.
BrownBottle said:
hornetrider said:
MarkRSi said:
Good example of "when two idiots meet"
Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
This. I'm staggered anyone is defending the bus driver. Bus driver needs sacking. Very unprofessional.
I thought others were maybe watching a different video. Lane hogging, pulling back across to perform a blocking manoeuvre, no that's not enough think I'll do a bit of brake testing while I'm at it. I'd say that pretty much 'instigated' the situation and all while supposedly performing the duties of a professional coach driver!
As for ramming the guy off the road at the end, deserved to lose his job for that one.
Jamesgt said:
Shocking. Why does flashing your lights have to be so antagonistic? If you've fallen asleep in the outside lane a flash of the lights is hardly the end of the world.
crazy. although if an antagonised megabus can catch back up with you on a deserted open motorway atnight, youre doing it wrong.Scuba_steve said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO2Z1JHFxg
Megabus driver side swipes/brake checks and rams car on motorway after being flashed to move over.
Car driver not innocent in this, bus driver takes to whole other level.
Interesting the first comment on youtube claims to be an employee. 'I drive for megabus and if that was me I'd have wrote your car off.'
Megabus driver side swipes/brake checks and rams car on motorway after being flashed to move over.
Car driver not innocent in this, bus driver takes to whole other level.
Interesting the first comment on youtube claims to be an employee. 'I drive for megabus and if that was me I'd have wrote your car off.'
assum,e this was nsl??
Stickyfinger said:
Taken by a friend....M4 today with a #3 slow lane ~
Yet the law still thinks under taking is dangerous ?
I still don't feel if you carry on in L1 and he is is L3 that's undertaking.~Yet the law still thinks under taking is dangerous ?
I have always thought if you catch someone up in L3, drop to L2 to pass and go back into L3, that's undertaking.
Often you find yourself in the situation in the photo, are you expected to move over to L3 hoping Mr Idiot will move over to let you pass.
To be fair, the Focus is following the BMW at the correct distance, waiting for BMW to move over, who is following/waiting for the Discovery, who is following/waiting for <whatever the dark coloured car is> to move over who is following waiting for etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
They should just legalise undertaking and be done with it.
They should just legalise undertaking and be done with it.
Vipers said:
I still don't feel if you carry on in L1 and he is is L3 that's undertaking.
I have always thought if you catch someone up in L3, drop to L2 to pass and go back into L3, that's undertaking.
Often you find yourself in the situation in the photo, are you expected to move over to L3 hoping Mr Idiot will move over to let you pass.
I would continue in Lane 1 and ignore L3 driver. Someone replied to me earlier on in a different thread to say they wouldn't class it as undertaking, just continuing your course in your lane. I have always thought if you catch someone up in L3, drop to L2 to pass and go back into L3, that's undertaking.
Often you find yourself in the situation in the photo, are you expected to move over to L3 hoping Mr Idiot will move over to let you pass.
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