The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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defblade said:
OTOH, and not really defending the cyclist here, after the initial closeness between bike and police car (which, playing Devil's advocate, the police driver could possibly have been more aware of developing...), he cycled quickly and fine with the traffic; overtaking all those on the cycle lane; the policeman really didn't have any reason to pull him over and detain him, he's not broken any laws AFAICS, demands his name then backs down as soon as the rider questions it, which says to me Mr BiB's got no real grounds for any of it.

Once again, when 2 plonkers meet, IMO.
Disagree, BiB just could not be arsed to do anything as a gobby tt like that is just time wasting, BiB will be using a shovel next time they meet anyway.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Just can't understand the logic. He was on the blue, then the police horn sounds, and then he moves out into the road and cuts the corner in front of the car(s).

He's a bit of a moron for sure. Why put yourself in dangerous situations like this one? If cyclists took measures to stop doing things like this, then they only have to deal with the close passes from behind (I speak from experience of cycling to work). Most other situations can be diffused by being alert and being prepared to stop.

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

222 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Seesure said:
Why do cyclists seem to think it's acceptable to "tap" a car.... ? And when they get confronted get all belligerent and whiny about road space....

When big fast metal thing encroaches in to your space the sensible thing would be to back off... but in the lycra world it appears that big metal thing acts as a magnet...

Reverse Darwinism ???
(Setting aside the individual in the video)

If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.

I also don't have a teleporter, so I can't just disappear.

Cheers!

pinchmeimdreamin

9,948 posts

218 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
Sensible stuff
However in that vid
1.36 Bradley wiggins decides to overtake everybody in the cycle lane as the lights change (Cammer is behind red cyclist) PC beeps to let Brad know hes a prat.

1.37 Cammer decides to overtake red cyclist in order to remonstrate with pc.

1.40 Cammer is cutting the corner knowing full well the PC is there, not the PC passing too close.

1.48-1.50 Cammer deliberateley accelerates to get in front of PC and rides in middle of 1st lane.

100% looking for a reaction.


mac96

3,772 posts

143 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
(Setting aside the individual in the video)

If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.

I also don't have a teleporter, so I can't just disappear.

Cheers!
You have my sympathy having recently been given 24 inches of road (at least a Brompton is narrow!) by an overtaking 8 wheel tipper, but I think tapping cars is still risky-if the tap is a warning, that's OK, like correct use of a horn. Trouble is it tends to be used in revenge, after the danger is over, or perceived as such. That is just aggression, which generates more aggression.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
Seesure said:
Why do cyclists seem to think it's acceptable to "tap" a car.... ? And when they get confronted get all belligerent and whiny about road space....

When big fast metal thing encroaches in to your space the sensible thing would be to back off... but in the lycra world it appears that big metal thing acts as a magnet...

Reverse Darwinism ???
(Setting aside the individual in the video)

If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.

I also don't have a teleporter, so I can't just disappear.

Cheers!
Every city would grind to a stop.

stinkspanner

701 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
(Setting aside the individual in the video)

If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.

I also don't have a teleporter, so I can't just disappear.

Cheers!
Sounds fair enough, the problem is that when filtering, cyclists rarely abide by this 'rule' and rely on the driver knowing they are there which doesn't always happen.
'Do as I say, not as I do' seems to be a lot of cyclists attitude which is why motorists get fed up with them

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Those indicators are fairly useless... looks like you were in their blind spot and they didn't check.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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nice cat you have.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
nice cat you have.
The cat is free to a good home...(He's almost joined the cat family next door, they now tolerate him in their house)

ashleyman

6,983 posts

99 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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AJXX1 said:
ashleyman said:
Asda Mess. Not awful, but just rubbish driving by a few different people all in the space of 2 minutes!

https://youtu.be/RGKjcYZVJ2s


Edited by ashleyman on Tuesday 30th August 23:57
Seems fairly typical for a supermarket. I find that most people pour in and all go for the area closest to the door which results in a build up of traffic like the one recorded, often with multiple people being unable to move and periods of gridlock.

Myself, I instantly head for the back of the car park which is usually quiet. I'm usually parked and inside the supermarket whilst most of these idiots are still climbing over each other to get parked.

Edited by AJXX1 on Thursday 1st September 17:49
Same here, head right to the back and stay out the way of the banging doors! I only posted this because of the car that pulled out and blocked traffic. The car that mounted the pavement. The car who tried to pull away on the handbrake and bounced. The red car who pulled out without looking. The Audi stuck on the roundabout and the gold car who blocked me off the roundabout for a second.

ambuletz

10,734 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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stinkspanner said:
Sounds fair enough, the problem is that when filtering, cyclists rarely abide by this 'rule' and rely on the driver knowing they are there which doesn't always happen.
'Do as I say, not as I do' seems to be a lot of cyclists attitude which is why motorists get fed up with them
a car that is stationary does not need an entire cars length in width for a cyclist to filter past them. Many people on here do not realise how different cars are to bicycles and the inherant problems/dangers each have. and you've said it. FILTERING, not OVERTAKING. there is a big difference in these situations.

you leave as much room as you would a car because

1- cyclists (and motorbikes) are more vunerable
2- they both do not brake as harder/faster/quicker
3- they require balance
4- they need to swerve to avoid potholes/drains/debris
5- defensive positioning/riding means more to them
6- riding to the right of a lane increases their observation of the road ahead along with their visibility.



BigLion

1,497 posts

99 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Most cyclist are fine, you can spot the trouble makers as they normally are wearing Lycra and a camera !!!

mac96

3,772 posts

143 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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[quote=ambuletz]


a car that is stationary does not need an entire cars length in width for a cyclist to filter past them. Many people on here do not realise how different cars are to bicycles and the inherant problems/dangers each have. and you've said it. FILTERING, not OVERTAKING. there is a big difference in these situations.

you leave as much room as you would a car because

1- cyclists (and motorbikes) are more vunerable
2- they both do not brake as harder/faster/quicker
3- they require balance
4- they need to swerve to avoid potholes/drains/debris
5- defensive positioning/riding means more to them
6- riding to the right of a lane increases their observation of the road ahead along with their visibility.


Absolutely true- but only when it is the car that is doing the overtaking and therefore choosing how much room to allow. If you are the cyclist, overtaking (or filtering- seems to just be a special type of overtaking really) you are the one choosing the amount of room.

And you can't assume the vehicle driver knows you are there if you have whizzed up behind them, especially if on the nearside.Of course they SHOULD, but... Yet so many cyclists head for tiny gaps. We have probably all done it. But we cannot then complain of it gets a little bit too small for comfort.

Of course when truck overtakes bike- at least 5 feet away please!

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Munter said:
The Spruce goose said:
nice cat you have.
The cat is free to a good home...(He's almost joined the cat family next door, they now tolerate him in their house)
There are a few cats around my way who make themselves at home in other people's houses even though they have homes of their own. He may not be a stray. It's possible he got shut in a vehicle and driven away from somewhere. That happened to my cat and it took her six months to find her way home. Or he could have decided to leave his home if he was treated roughly by children or was competing with other cats. My neighbour's cat did that because she got him when she already had cats that didn't tolerate him.

harlowrog

67 posts

109 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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SmoothCriminal said:
The cyclist in that video is just another lycra wearing looking for a fight with his camera just look at some of his other videos.

Impatient wker can't cycle for st the one where he filters around the van or this one when he just cuts infront of the police car, cuts the lane and then hogs the lane when there's a bright blue cycle super highway there for his safety.

https://youtu.be/eR3X2C-WcVE
I fking detest pricks like this, no use to society whatsoever, should be put down. Waste of oxygen.

jamei303

3,002 posts

156 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Munter said:
One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo
To be fair, you weren't doing a very good job of overtaking him.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Munter said:
One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo
Yep you were sat in their blind spot, not an excuse for them to pull out but something to consider in future

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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liner33 said:
Munter said:
One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo
Yep you were sat in their blind spot, not an excuse for them to pull out but something to consider in future
You mean they had backed up until they had put me in their blind spot for no good reason. Giving me options including lane 3 (causing panic braking and congestion to it's users), slowing up causing panic braking behind me, congestion, and meaning I'd have a harder time getting up to speed again to pass the Mini. Or wait 2 seconds for the BMW to pass then pull out into lane 3. Impacting nobody and getting out of his blind spot.

Motorway driving is about not changing your speed at all unless forced to do so. Variable speed wkers such as the Jag, and cocks who let them affect their speed are the cause of most congestion. He should have maintained his speed, he shouldn't have put me in his blind spot, and he shouldn't have pulled out.

At some point if you want to pass people on a motorway, you have to be in a blind spot. Particularly when they are varying their speed all over the place, while you're looking for a gap to use to overtake.
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