The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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BigLion

1,497 posts

99 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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liner33 said:
Munter said:
One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo
Yep you were sat in their blind spot, not an excuse for them to pull out but something to consider in future
I'm a massive champion of defensive driving, but that Jag is utterly at fault and unpredictable on what he did - that driving position in L1 and L2 is the norm in peak hour traffic and you can't get away from it - silly on the Jag part.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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BigLion said:
liner33 said:
Munter said:
One from my drive home. Bare in mind he'd previously come past me, and almost made it out of sight, before hoving back into view. We'd both just passed a truck and he'd pulled into lane one. As I'm catching him and the Mini I figure I'll say in lane 2 and pass him while I wait for a gap to open up as it changes to 4 lanes to pass the Mini as well...
https://youtu.be/a81h_zXdVVo
Yep you were sat in their blind spot, not an excuse for them to pull out but something to consider in future
I'm a massive champion of defensive driving, but that Jag is utterly at fault and unpredictable on what he did - that driving position in L1 and L2 is the norm in peak hour traffic and you can't get away from it - silly on the Jag part.
I'd have to agree there - lots of jumping to conclusions as usual from PH, you lot must struggle to make any progress on the motorway with how defensively you drive... That or you spend your life speeding up and slowing down past everyone and making your passengers sick.

There's no reason to expect the Jag to pull out without looking in that video.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Munter said:
At some point if you want to pass people on a motorway, you have to be in a blind spot. Particularly when they are varying their speed all over the place, while you're looking for a gap to use to overtake.
Very true but you can minimise the time you are in the blind spot and be extra aware that the other car might not see you/look.

Something I am especially aware of when passing trucks , in particular foreign ones.









xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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RE the Jag on the motorway.

Jag totally at fault. no fault of the cam car IMO.
I look in my mirrors and notice a car. If I can't see it in my mirror and it hasn't gone past I will assume it's in my blind spot and check if I want to move.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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xjay1337 said:
RE the Jag on the motorway.

Jag totally at fault. no fault of the cam car IMO.
I look in my mirrors and notice a car. If I can't see it in my mirror and it hasn't gone past I will assume it's in my blind spot and check if I want to move.
Apart from following the Mini to closely.

Alex_225

6,263 posts

201 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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BigLion said:
Most cyclist are fine, you can spot the trouble makers as they normally are wearing Lycra and a camera !!!
Wouldn't be so sure on that. Round central London the courier bikes seem to be mainly hippies with dreadlocks! haha

Saw a blinder today, guy on a bike rides into the middle of a junction where it's not his right of way. Motorcycle nearly hits him and a car comes to a screeching halt having just pulled off from the lights to have to emergency stop because the moron is still there.

Words are exchanged and next thing you know the cyclist kicks the car bloody hard. Then as the driver goes to get out, the cyclists heads off as quickly as possible. Having words is one thing but criminal damage is another let alone when the cyclist was in the wrong.

Sadly, working in the city brings down my opinions on cyclists. In the main part they are pigs, jump red lights, cycle in dangerous places (up between lorries/buses) yet still maintain their right to be on the road. I live 20 mile south of London and the problem is a lot less apparent.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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xjay1337 said:
RE the Jag on the motorway.

Jag totally at fault. no fault of the cam car IMO.
I look in my mirrors and notice a car. If I can't see it in my mirror and it hasn't gone past I will assume it's in my blind spot and check if I want to move.
The camera car's positioning is crap, he accelerates into the jags blind spot. For no reason either, look how close he gets to the mini. There's less than 2 cars gap. Leave some distance, be aware of other drivers blind spots.

Jag ultimately at fault though, he got his mirror, signal, manoeuvre perfectly backwards.

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Krikkit said:
There's no reason to expect the Jag to pull out without looking in that video.
Well, there is.

The Jag is catching the stuff in L1 at quite a rate, it's perfectly reasonable to believe that he will want to pull out pretty much exactly when he does.

Average to poor drivers are everywhere and will take a quick glance in a mirror as gospel that they have checked properly.

That doesn't make it our man's fault, not by any stretch, but a really good driver (Reg Local, perhaps) would have avoided that before it happened.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Alex_225 said:
jump red lights
Slight topic drift but I reckon this crowd will like it.

Google "Idaho stop".

It'll either boil your piss or there will be a letter in the postbox this afternoon to your councillor extolling the virtues...!

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Alex_225 said:
Sadly, working in the city brings down my opinions on cyclists. In the main part they are pigs, jump red lights, cycle in dangerous places (up between lorries/buses) yet still maintain their right to be on the road. I live 20 mile south of London and the problem is a lot less apparent.
I did wonder this, I happily live nowhere near a city and there are a good number of cyclists on my daily commute. Issues are basically non-existent. In my previous job I was only 4 miles from work so cycled most days, again without anything even approaching an incident in several years.

I just see anything that might 'hold me up' (cyclists, buses etc) as one less car to clog up my commute, easily outweighs the few seconds I might 'lose' waiting to pass them.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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ShaunTheSheep said:
xjay1337 said:
RE the Jag on the motorway.

Jag totally at fault. no fault of the cam car IMO.
I look in my mirrors and notice a car. If I can't see it in my mirror and it hasn't gone past I will assume it's in my blind spot and check if I want to move.
The camera car's positioning is crap, he accelerates into the jags blind spot. For no reason either, look how close he gets to the mini. There's less than 2 cars gap. Leave some distance, be aware of other drivers blind spots.

Jag ultimately at fault though, he got his mirror, signal, manoeuvre perfectly backwards.
I didn't accelerate at all. Until hitting the brakes to avoid the Jag, the car was on cruise for about the last half hour.

The Jag on the other hand did slow down, as did the Mini. Which I'd predicted they would, hence being in lane 2 and planning on moving over into 3 when the BMW was out the way...

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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GTIAlex said:
Apart from following the Mini to closely.
To closely what? confused

dxg

8,203 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lyxxxvX5U

You need the sound turned on for this one...

Torquey

1,895 posts

228 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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ferrariF50lover said:
Krikkit said:
There's no reason to expect the Jag to pull out without looking in that video.
Well, there is.

The Jag is catching the stuff in L1 at quite a rate, it's perfectly reasonable to believe that he will want to pull out pretty much exactly when he does.

Average to poor drivers are everywhere and will take a quick glance in a mirror as gospel that they have checked properly.

That doesn't make it our man's fault, not by any stretch, but a really good driver (Reg Local, perhaps) would have avoided that before it happened.
I think this sums it up nicely.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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dxg said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lyxxxvX5U

You need the sound turned on for this one...
Fair play on them for laughing. after about 2 or 3 opportunities I'd have been a bit annoyed. Hesitation fails driving tests.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,954 posts

218 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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dxg said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lyxxxvX5U

You need the sound turned on for this one...
confused Learner driver/ Busy roundabout.... confused


Gary C

12,440 posts

179 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
(Setting aside the individual in the video)

If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.

I also don't have a teleporter, so I can't just disappear.

Cheers!
your right of course, but I must admit if id been the cyclist I would have seen that the driver was hugging the right to give me room and would have been happy to let him get on with it, rather than accelerating into the gap just to make something of it.

I don't have a problem of a car passing me much closer than the picture, as long as the speed diff is small, I go out of my way to allow cars past on narrow sections of my journey but on the bypass I expect the lorries at 60 to give me room and they do.



ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Munter said:
I didn't accelerate at all.
Everyone else slowed down but you still charged onwards? So that changes what exactly... still the exact same flaw.



PoleDriver said:
To closely what? confused
  • Yawn*
Is there not another thread for that kind of banal language lawyering?

Anyway, maybe the village of Closely was their destination.




silentbrown

8,838 posts

116 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
If you are passing me in accordance with the Highway Code, then I can't tap you. I'm not Mr Tickle, it's just impossible for me to reach your vehicle and tap it.



However, if you've passed too close, and I'm boxed in between a kerb / wall / van / bus / parked car and you're about to use the 1, 2 or 10 tonnes of metal you are operating to kill me, then I'll let you know you are about to kill or at least injure me.
Am I the only one who finds that 'rule' a little ambiguous? Does it mean "pretend the bike is as wide as a car", or just "don't get closer to a bike than you would a car?". The pic implies the second (because you wouldn't fit a car where the bike is) which seems wrong. I give bikes much more room than I would a car.

Edited by silentbrown on Friday 2nd September 22:45

Monkeylegend

26,389 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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dxg said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lyxxxvX5U

You need the sound turned on for this one...
Made me laugh.

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