RE: Ferrari California T Handling Speciale pack
Discussion
RoverP6B said:
I really dislike the sound and vibration of flat-plane V8s. The Jaguar AJ-V8 is a fine engine which makes a stupendous racket. As for Ferraris, I don't like the V8s but any with twelve cylinders and either carbs or port injection is fine by me.
Have to say I've not noticed vibrations on either the 458 or 308, and rather like the sound of both.I'll let you know about the California T
GroundEffect said:
My flatplane V8 sounds brilliant and doesn't vibrate too badly...
My wife used to have an E92 M3, she loved it, but I didn't realise it was flat plane, I thought it was a crucifix crank engine?Anyway, we're all clearly wrong...
I like a crucifix crank V8 too, loved the ones in my TVRs, but they're more a slow spinning lugger, which is fine for a cruiser.
I happen to think it looks pretty too...
RoverP6B said:
It's true though. Another overweight flabby folding-hardtop hairdresser's car with very little in the way of 'driving dynamics'. If you want a convertible Ferrari to pose in, buy a 275GTS. If you want an Italian V8 GT drophead, buy a Maserati GranTurismo. If you really want a modern Ferrari GT, buy a secondhand 599 and accept that the roof won't come off. The California was the answer to the question no-one asked, and as a result falls between all stools. It isn't even remotely pretty.
There aren't going to be many hairdressers who can afford a Ferrari, it's a bit of a tired cliche usually reserved for the SLK which again is way too pricey for most hairdressers.A lot of hairdressers in this area drive mid-range Audi, BMW and Mercedes dropheads. One did manage to save up for (I think) a Ferrari 360 Spider. The California is nevertheless not a car that is bought by the kind of enthusiast you'd be likely to find on this forum. It's mainly driven by permatanned balding men and their bottle-blonde trophy wives.
RoverP6B said:
A lot of hairdressers in this area drive mid-range Audi, BMW and Mercedes dropheads. One did manage to save up for (I think) a Ferrari 360 Spider. The California is nevertheless not a car that is bought by the kind of enthusiast you'd be likely to find on this forum. It's mainly driven by permatanned balding men and their bottle-blonde trophy wives.
You told me off for stereotyping the other day !In this case, the stereotype is broadly correct. All of Surrey's Ferrari California owners, as far as I can tell, live in ghastly modern gated developments in the borough of Elmbridge - i.e. Cobham, Oxshott, Esher, Weybridge. They're the worst kind of nouveau-riche - Chelsea footballers and hedge-fund managers. They've brass but no class. They're the successors to - in some cases probably the same people as - the red-braces 911 Turbo owners of the Thatcher years.
RoverP6B said:
A lot of hairdressers in this area drive mid-range Audi, BMW and Mercedes dropheads. One did manage to save up for (I think) a Ferrari 360 Spider. The California is nevertheless not a car that is bought by the kind of enthusiast you'd be likely to find on this forum. It's mainly driven by permatanned balding men and their bottle-blonde trophy wives.
Glad to see you're moving the discussion back to the car....RoverP6B said:
In this case, the stereotype is broadly correct. All of Surrey's Ferrari California owners, as far as I can tell, live in ghastly modern gated developments in the borough of Elmbridge - i.e. Cobham, Oxshott, Esher, Weybridge. They're the worst kind of nouveau-riche - Chelsea footballers and hedge-fund managers. They've brass but no class. They're the successors to - in some cases probably the same people as - the red-braces 911 Turbo owners of the Thatcher years.
So stereotyping is acceptable and correct when you make the claim?RoverP6B said:
In this case, the stereotype is broadly correct. All of Surrey's Ferrari California owners, as far as I can tell, live in ghastly modern gated developments in the borough of Elmbridge - i.e. Cobham, Oxshott, Esher, Weybridge. They're the worst kind of nouveau-riche - Chelsea footballers and hedge-fund managers. They've brass but no class. They're the successors to - in some cases probably the same people as - the red-braces 911 Turbo owners of the Thatcher years.
Anyway, back to the car....As I say , I was sceptical about California T until I drove one, it was impressive.
Not a loaded question I promise, but have you driven one ?
kRoverP6B said:
I report only what I see. No, the California doesn't interest me in the slightest. I could never live with the looks or the sound. I'd much rather have an XKR or DB9.
Given that you seem to have zero experience of any Ferraris including the California, flat plane crank V8s in general, Jag's AJ-V8 family and - I'm going to make a bit of a logical leap here - probably the Aston Martin V12 engine and the DB9 in particular, you seem singularly unqualified to make statements.Asking questions on these threads about how the cars drive, whether the flat-plane V8 vibrates and whether X,Y or Z is better is a different thing entirely. Asserting (strong) opinions on these subjects without being burdened by actually knowing what you're talking about is what makes you the centre of attention here.
Wading in and rubbishing a car you've never so much sat in, let alone driven, on its attributes other than looks based purely upon your imagination just makes you look like a bit of an idiot I'm sorry to say.
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