Davanti Tyres

[Yadizzle1]

Aha, well at the moment I'm running my car on Michelin Pilot Sport 3's purely because I appreciate the benefits that good rubber brings, especially as I do a bit of autosoloing. But surely using chinese tyres can't be that bad for normal everyday use? I didn't nearly die every time I went around a corner or whenever I tried to stop using the "Duruns"

[ljw2k]

ferrariF50lover said:

Terrible grammar. "Don't trust no one but family" attitude. Running a Beamer on a shoestring. Gets grumpy when people who know tell him his Chinese Ditchfinders will not be better than a grand's worth of Pirelli. Thinks that the answer to having fitted crap tyres is to just drive slower everywhere.

Yup, got your number.

I'm out.

Bad grammar ...Sorry Mr prefect I didn't realise it was an English test!!

I don't trust anyone that's just me but this don't mean I have an attitude. I don't know any members on this forum.
who said I'm on a shoestring as it was just a question not an appraisal.

I am here to take advise as everyone will have there own views on different brands but no need to be rude.

I know a grand's worth of Pirelli tyres should out perform Chinese brands, I would like to know if anyone has these on their car if so any comments.

"Yup got your number " What do you mean by this?.....please lock the gate behind you.

Edited by ljw2k on Sunday 24th January 02:48

Edited by ljw2k on Sunday 24th January 02:51

Edited by ljw2k on Sunday 24th January 04:26

[ljw2k]

I have Goodyear Excellence run flats on at the moment and being honest they don't give me any confidence whatsoever. I use to own a BMW 530D last year ( Winter time ) which had Michelin Alpen 4's all round and I thought they was brilliant although the car I have now has a little more power maybe I should lay off the right foot a little more

I don't like the run flats ride its a little harsh to say the least hence me looking for standard tyres.

I was originally looking at Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 but they have not got my size yet for the rears 275-35x19 they have the fronts 245-40x19 in stock most places.

Edited by ljw2k on Sunday 24th January 02:44

[rodericb]

ljw2k said:

My tyre supplier who I have been to for many years says don't waste my money on premium brands these are brilliant.

For four hundred quid I'm sure they could come up with something even more cheaply built and they could throw in a reach-around so everyone comes away happy.

[ljw2k]

I would usually only put branded tyres on my car always have done. When I need tyres I usually always look on tyre review sites to see what's best and looking at http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Davanti/DX640.ht... on paper they looked pretty good hence why I made the post here asking for advise.

[wemorgan]

ljw2k said:

My sizes are :

275-35x19 - Back
245-40x19 - Front

RATINGS:

WET 100%
DRY 80%
C on the fuel efficiency.

Davanti website does not show 275 35 19.
There is no 'Dry' EU rating for any tyre.
Ratings are A-G, not %
The 245 40 19 are; C fuel efficiency, B wet grip, 98db
Tyre testing is self certified - read in to that what you will.

[jagnet]

ljw2k said:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Davanti/DX640.ht... on paper they looked pretty good hence why I made the post here asking for advise.

Uhuh, from one user review which could be from the importer for all we know. And that's where the 100% wet grip "rating" comes from. Call me cynical but I just can't seem to shake that nagging feeling that they may not be quite that good in the wet

[zeDuffMan]

jagnet said:

Uhuh, from one user review which could be from the importer for all we know. And that's where the 100% wet grip "rating" comes from. Call me cynical but I just can't seem to shake that nagging feeling that they may not be quite that good in the wet

Its all relative. If the tyre is half the price of a decent one then its allowed to be half as good in the wet, and all you need to do to compensate is drive slowly and anticipate corners well in advance. Perhaps have a look at street view before you leave your house if you're in unfamiliar territory, see what the corners are like and judge where large pools of standing water are likely to be waiting to chuck you off into a ditch.

[T5XARV]

ljw2k said:

My tyre supplier who I have been to for many years says don't waste my money on premium brands these are brilliant.

I am trying to picture your tyre guy with his arm round your shoulder walking you past rack after rack of Pirelli, Michelin, Dunlop, Continental...whilst you are saying 'but, but....'
"Nonsense lad, THESE are the ones you want.....put yer money away....''
Why on earth would he do that ? He is in business I assume ?
He's bought them in and they're simply not selling. Does that help in your decision making ?

Why not put your tyre size into eBay and see what part worn's exist out there ?
For £400 you could have two pairs (or four matching if you're lucky) of 5-6mm Premium rubber which will outlast and outperform your cheap choice.

Edited by Ollie_M on Monday 25th January 10:07

[r11co]

It's the cheap tyre thread - again.

I've never heard of Davanti but as someone has already said it looks like a 'brand' attached to a Far Eastern manufactured tyre. To some that is enough for them to be condemned as ditchfinders based on herd mentality backed up with an anecdotal experience of a probably completely unrelated product from some time ago, or more even second or third hand knowledge of such anecdotes.

Things have moved on much faster than the herd PH mentality, and there are now some big-name players in the tyre industry based in the far east who, with partnerships and investment from companies with brands we are more familiar with, are now OEM suppliers to car manufacturing plants in the eastern hemisphere.

(For those who can't get their head round that, I am old enough to remember when Kumho and Hankook had the ditchfinder reputation, and how for some it was a culture shock when they became OEM manufacturers. Others might even remember even further back when it was Bridgestone and Yokohama in the firing line).

If you can establish that a tyre came from one of these big-name players then it should be a decent product. An example is the GiTi Tyre Company of Singapore, who manufacture in three continents and Michelin own a stake in them - probably best known for the Primewell brand which sells well in Europe and USA.

The makers of these tyres are not stupid, and they know they will be put through tests so they have to put in a decent performance.

Where many problems lie is when tyres are 'grey imported' products designed for a different market with a different climate and will perform inadequately. This is an issue even for the well-known brand. Every tyre is a compromise and every manufacturer tailors performance characteristics to suit the market the tyre is being sold into. Also, no tyre is a perfect all-rounder and there are many situations where the most expensive premium tyre will not perform as well as a more modestly priced tyre.

EU tyre labling (provided it wasn't slyly added afterwards by the importer) should be a sign the tyres were meant for our market, and Davanti appears to be a brand specifically targeting the European market, so it won't be 'lethal' or even 'dangerous'. You (and anyone else for that matter) won't know how good they are until you try them.

ETA - I've done my homework - Davanti tyres are manufactured by Sentury who also do the Landsail and Delinte brands. Someone will be along shortly no doubt with some hyperbole related to these names, but again I point out that all manufacturers improve their products through time and companies do not survive very long selling safety related products that are not safe. The Davantis are not a rebadged version of one or other of these brands as far as I can see but a whole new product.

Edited by r11co on Sunday 24th January 09:24

[r11co]

wemorgan said:

Tyre testing is self certified - read in to that what you will.

While this is the case, it is also true that EU recognised testing agencies will 'sample' tyres at random without manufacturer knowledge (using tyres bought covertly on the open market through approved sellers) to check that they meet the baseline specifications being claimed.

You can also be sure that rival tyre manufacturers will be testing each others' products and would be ready to cry 'foul' if they found anything untoward (just think VW emissions...!)

[siovey]

Hi mate , I just bought 4 eagle f1's and had them fitted for £350. You can get much better tyres than that Chinese **** for the same or less than you've been quoted. Stick some decent tyres on instead

[r11co]

siovey said:

You can get much better tyres than that Chinese ****.

How do you know they are **** (and any generalisations referring to anything other than the tyres in question is not a valid response)?

I'm not saying they are great, but until anyone actually puts their money where their mouth is they are wrong to make any value judgement on them, period.

[Bonefish Blues]

Fair point, but I think that there's a higher likelihood that they may turn out to be

[TooMany2cvs]

r11co said:

I've never heard of Davanti but as someone has already said it looks like a 'brand' attached to a Far Eastern manufactured tyre.

Two-second google finds
http://www.tiretechnologyinternational.com/article...

So it's a made-up brand for tyres from a Qingdau contract-builder - and if you look on AliBaba.com, the majority of by-the-container cheap Chinese tyres come from Qingdau - if you ask nicely for a minimum quantity, they'll even slap your own made-up brand on the side of them. Same manufacturer as LandSail etc? Furry muff. Just ask yourself this - if their own brand are nasty teflon/concrete ste, then what're the odds they're capable of producing MUCH better stuff for some random bulk-order-name-on-side?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck...

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Sunday 24th January 10:01

[T5XARV]

Its like arguing that a pair of shoes from Shorpe Market might prove to be more economically viable than a pair of Trickers brogues....
I don't need to test those shoes in order to form an opinion.
They (like the tyres) are cheap for a reason.

[HairyMaclary]

I'm banging these on my car next time. They are simply maaaaaazin. Sod the Rainsports.

[Escort3500]

OP - as a matter of interest, what did your tyre dealer buddy quote for a set of mainstream brand tyres?

[Condi]

Aside from all the arguments and discussions, is it really worth worrying about to save £30 a corner? You might never need to spend the extra, but you'll only know that when its too late, and its pretty cheap insurance.

If £30 means the world to you, then buy the cheap ones, but if £30 means the difference between 2 bottles of wine or 1 bottle of wine, maybe go with the better tyres? There is no 'right' answer.

[r11co]

TooMany2cvs said:

So it's a made-up brand for tyres from a Qingdau contract-builder - and if you look on AliBaba.com, the majority of by-the-container cheap Chinese tyres come from Qingdau - if you ask nicely for a minimum quantity, they'll even slap your own made-up brand on the side of them. Same manufacturer as LandSail etc? Furry muff. Just ask yourself this - if their own brand are nasty teflon/concrete ste, then what're the odds they're capable of producing MUCH better stuff for some random bulk-order-name-on-side?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck...

You've done a good job of discreditation there by association. The article you linked to mentions that Oak Tyres have put their own R+D team over in China, which is just a bit (but probably crucially) different from the scenario you present above.

Buy/beg/borrow a set and then tell us from an objective point of view. Anything else is bks.