RE: Tesla Model S P90D: Review
Discussion
JonnyVTEC said:
je777 said:
Yep, for a small minority of people who can produce their own electricty, that's fine. And for a country like Norway, it's also a great idea - but they have a population of 5 million.
In the USA, which was the country I mentioned, electricity production is:
Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%
Coal is particularly filthy.
China generates 80% of its electricity from coal.
Sorting out what the big polluters do matters a lot more than - the conveniently chosen - Norway.
Or what you do in your back garden. (Kudos to you if you're doing it, but it's an option that just isn't available to most).
Electric cars are a short-term money-maker. Without changing global electricity production, they have a tiny impact on global pollution - if any.
As I said, if you factor in the extra environmental cost of their production, in a country like the US - because of where their electricity comes from - they're less environmentally friendly.
Main thing we need to factor in is that you're don't have a clue what you making up.In the USA, which was the country I mentioned, electricity production is:
Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%
Coal is particularly filthy.
China generates 80% of its electricity from coal.
Sorting out what the big polluters do matters a lot more than - the conveniently chosen - Norway.
Or what you do in your back garden. (Kudos to you if you're doing it, but it's an option that just isn't available to most).
Electric cars are a short-term money-maker. Without changing global electricity production, they have a tiny impact on global pollution - if any.
As I said, if you factor in the extra environmental cost of their production, in a country like the US - because of where their electricity comes from - they're less environmentally friendly.
Edited by je777 on Friday 29th January 19:32
Bit of a bumpity of this thread as they have one on show in Centre MK today so I've finally been able to see one in the flesh.
I'm a bit disappointed as the interior is quite cramped, especially the back where legroom is really tight. The dashboard is very bland aside from the central screen which dominates and looks really out of place.
For the asking price it really needs to feel a lot more special than it currently does
I'm a bit disappointed as the interior is quite cramped, especially the back where legroom is really tight. The dashboard is very bland aside from the central screen which dominates and looks really out of place.
For the asking price it really needs to feel a lot more special than it currently does
eltawater said:
Bit of a bumpity of this thread as they have one on show in Centre MK today so I've finally been able to see one in the flesh.
I'm a bit disappointed as the interior is quite cramped, especially the back where legroom is really tight. The dashboard is very bland aside from the central screen which dominates and looks really out of place.
For the asking price it really needs to feel a lot more special than it currently does
Walking past one the other day with my wife and ask her what she thinks of it, "I like the door handles". Made me laugh I'm a bit disappointed as the interior is quite cramped, especially the back where legroom is really tight. The dashboard is very bland aside from the central screen which dominates and looks really out of place.
For the asking price it really needs to feel a lot more special than it currently does
Another reason to avoid battery cars, child abuse/exploitation and deaths on a large scale mining the cobalt for the batteries.
No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
Well it's a great car, I only have the p85d but i wouldn't swap it for anything other than a P90DL. The base price for p85d equivalent is up about 8k plus another 5k or so for L. So I will stick. May retro upgrade it tho.
I don't care what the motor power is, it's stupid fast. I also had a play with a gorgeous well cared for yellow if i recall 996. I did pretty easily walk away from it from 40-50. And i seemed to corner better too despite it being a c4s.
I don't care what the motor power is, it's stupid fast. I also had a play with a gorgeous well cared for yellow if i recall 996. I did pretty easily walk away from it from 40-50. And i seemed to corner better too despite it being a c4s.
Mr GrimNasty said:
Another reason to avoid battery cars, child abuse/exploitation and deaths on a large scale mining the cobalt for the batteries.
No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
Stop being so bloody stupid No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
Mr GrimNasty said:
Another reason to avoid battery cars, child abuse/exploitation and deaths on a large scale mining the cobalt for the batteries.
No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
Grumble grumble, so of course the answer is to stick with big polluting diesel and petrol powered cars, clogging up our cities with fumes? Yeah, genius move.No such thing as green. Just higher taxes, increased poverty, waste of money/resources, unintended consequences, and a different flavour of evil.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/Chi...
Or maybe we should all stay at home and give up on transportation completely? We could start knitting our sandals from yoghurt and the world would be completely labour/fume/tax free. Is that you're preference?
Come up with some genuinely useful/insightful/thought-out comments or don't bother at all.
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