RE: Ginetta G40R: Spotted

RE: Ginetta G40R: Spotted

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PositronicRay

27,086 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Krikkit said:
85Carrera said:
Krikkit said:
Piginapoke said:
Beautiful. But whats the deal with that gear stick?
Making it front-mid engined means the gearbox is pushed quite a long way back into the tunnel. Rather than make some elaborate linkage you can't see, just bend the stick into a nice shape. smile
What utter nonsense.

A car with an engine at the front is not mid engined.

They fudged the gear stick because it's a low volume manufacturer and that's what worked. Not necessarily anything wrong with that but don't give me the "front mid engined ??" bullst
I didn't say mid-engined c.f. Ferrari 360 etc, I said front-mid, i.e. push the whole engine behind the front axle. Technically that is "mid-engined" by having the engine between the axles.

Using a gearbox off the shelf as Ginetta have done in place of the Quaife sequential in the normal G40 means that some bits aren't quite as easy. I didn't say it wasn't a bodge, just that I'd rather have a simple (and nicely) bent rod rather than frig about with an unobtainium gearbox or a complex linkage.
Mr Reliant Regal Supervan 3 had this arrangement. But with a straight gear lever.

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Krikkit said:
I didn't say mid-engined c.f. Ferrari 360 etc, I said front-mid, i.e. push the whole engine behind the front axle. Technically that is "mid-engined" by having the engine between the axles.
Exactly. If you've got 100kg of engine and 100kg of driver (powerfully built PHer) both entirely between the axles, it makes little difference to weight distribution whether the engine is in front of or behind the driver. However, lots of PHers will never accept that a car can be "mid-engined" with the engine in front of the driver. <shrug>

sandys

208 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Having just been through corner weights, the distribution of my 5 is 51.3/48.7, you check a Boxster S it is something like 47/53, both end up fairly well balance with weight one end or the other having its pros and cons. A lot of the weight on the 5 is between axles.

Edited by sandys on Wednesday 27th January 10:24

WolvesWill

150 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Always loved these, didn't know they were quite so light as they are!

I've seen road test videos where the gear knob is the factory fit MX5 Mk3 item as well, seems this one has had it changed mind...

Would love one of these as a track toy, the natural progression from the tuned mk3 mx5 I have now really, essentially the same drivetrain (engine, gearbox and rear diff) but in a more focussed and lighter platform smile

aka_kerrly

12,423 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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TREMAiNE said:
One of my dream cars right there!

What I'd do to have one of those as a track we! cloud9
beer
likewise.

Andy S15

399 posts

128 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Bencolem said:
Looks lovely. I appreciate they are light cars but I wonder how much wear 33,000 miles with a number of high load track days does?
You say that, but odds are (and is quite often the case with tracked cars which have been looked after) that parts wearing out become a lot more obviously apparent on track cars and it'll actually have been looked after better than an equivalent road car. It's quite easy to ignore something a little awry on a road car, not so on something used in anger on track with any regularity. I'd personally expect servicing on this to have been top notch.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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These look like incredible fun. Unfortunately most people I've talked to about these couldn't give a rats ring for driving fun and simply comment on the interior. A good looking caterham with a roof sounds amazing to me!

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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ewenm said:
Exactly. If you've got 100kg of engine and 100kg of driver (powerfully built PHer) both entirely between the axles, it makes little difference to weight distribution whether the engine is in front of or behind the driver. However, lots of PHers will never accept that a car can be "mid-engined" with the engine in front of the driver. <shrug>
Sadly I think a lot of the population would rather have the engine hanging right out the front like Audi and have the gearstick straight. Interior is far more important than handling to most people.

mauricegb

67 posts

118 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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This looks like very good value to me.

I enquired recently with Ginetta last year about the cost of a new one, they are now £40k, which was a bit of a shock after all the reviews mentioning 30. (Yes you do get entry to a race series with that, but they don't market just the car from what I got)

If I had the money I'd probably buy it. I've sat in one and I liked the focused interior, no messing about.

foggy

1,164 posts

283 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Humph, if we weren't in the throes of moving house I'd be heading up to try it for size before the inevitable, then advertising my G20 for sale very shortly afterwards! If nothing else it would save me studying weather forecasts quite so intently before trackdays laugh

Either this or a Rage buggy. Much better use of the funds than bloody stamp duty grrrr.....

Edited by foggy on Thursday 28th January 23:58

DonkeyApple

55,641 posts

170 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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"The Yorkshire stereotype of straight-talking, down-to-earth pragmatism is one locals will spare no opportunity to remind you of."

'Cheap, orange, fun for a ride but not a keeper' would be a more modern stereotype.

It's a shame the Ginetta thing never really took off as it seemed a good product for Motorsport in a sensible budget.

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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Just purchased and driven it home. Its great looking forward to learning the car and getting out and about in it.

mikearwas

1,112 posts

160 months

Saturday 5th March 2016
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ceebmoj said:
Just purchased and driven it home. Its great looking forward to learning the car and getting out and about in it.
Top man. Initial thoughts?