RE: Porsche 718 Boxster - full details
Discussion
Gandahar said:
They put a cheaper engine in and then put the prices up by 5% and more....
Probably not a cheaper engine, particularly if it has a VGT turbine as the article suggests.The inference that the engine "dies" at 4500 rpm because that's the end of the torque plateau is amusing.
Interior looks cheap, rear looks terrible, front looks like the current Cayenne pre-facelift. Don't even get me started on the engine and the price increase.
Looks like Porsche is trying to stuff the Boxster back into the hairdresser niche that it came from. I'd rather drive a Golf R than that.
Now excuse me. I'm off to the dealership to inquire about a GT4 because I wouldn't want this new model even if it had a 4.0L Mezger.
Looks like Porsche is trying to stuff the Boxster back into the hairdresser niche that it came from. I'd rather drive a Golf R than that.
Now excuse me. I'm off to the dealership to inquire about a GT4 because I wouldn't want this new model even if it had a 4.0L Mezger.
Baryonyx said:
Chuck328 said:
Looks good so far, but can a four pot ever sound as good as six?
Without VTEC or a supercharger...I wouldn't have thought so. The rev range on these sounds appalling. Out of puff by 4500rpm? Dear me. Might as well stick a diesel in an be done with it.
This can only be good news for those who are in ownership of decent 6cyl examples, I reckon it will do wonders for their residuals and might even push the price up on older versions that could now well be considered 'classic'.
Somebody found the link to the swiss microsite which has more information than the other languages:
http://www.porsche.com/microsite/718/international...
CO2: 158g-184g
Boxster S with PDK: 1385 kg EG / 1460 kg DIN
http://www.porsche.com/microsite/718/international...
CO2: 158g-184g
Boxster S with PDK: 1385 kg EG / 1460 kg DIN
looks like Porsche listened to feedback on the rear light cluster. it no longer looks like a Hyundai when lit.
I find some of the foaming at the mouth comments here amusing. it's a four pot which does 350hp and revs out to 7000rpm, I will reserve judgement until the test drive, on paper that works for me.
I like the front leds they have returned to the discreet ones fitted to the gen2 987
listen to the new car here: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/718/uk.aspx#model...
I find some of the foaming at the mouth comments here amusing. it's a four pot which does 350hp and revs out to 7000rpm, I will reserve judgement until the test drive, on paper that works for me.
I like the front leds they have returned to the discreet ones fitted to the gen2 987
listen to the new car here: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/718/uk.aspx#model...
Edited by Carl_Manchester on Wednesday 27th January 09:01
Varn said:
There's no doubt they had to switch to FI in order to deliver the levels of involvement the majority of the driving demographic require these days.
Not sure what you mean? It seems most in the market require almost no involvement; soft touch plastics, a whizzy infotainment and the right badge are everything. But in that case a 4 pot petrol that pulls like a diesel will fit the bill ably!For me, no doubt it will be fast, comfortable, a superb piece of engineering, but with a turbo and electric steering, it's totally off my radar. But then I'm a little odd, which is why I'm running an objectively inferior but infinitely more beguiling Evora...
Wish they'd gone the same route as Ferrari with Turbo charging and mapped the power curves a little closer to the outgoing NA engine rather than aping the standard "derv" power curves.
I hope there is a significant weight reduction on the older model but I'm not seeing it from the performance times released so far. A weight reduction would help improve an already good car in so many areas.
I think the increase in BHP is needed for the car buyers who play top trumps with the car stats to decide what car they are going to buy. Porsche risk being squeezed with that group by the likes of the TT and the Z4 and even hot hatches overlapping on stats now. How a Focus RS drives is obviously very different from a Boxster but I'd put money on a good proportion of buyers choosing a performance car based on its stats rather than how it drives.
I hope there is a significant weight reduction on the older model but I'm not seeing it from the performance times released so far. A weight reduction would help improve an already good car in so many areas.
I think the increase in BHP is needed for the car buyers who play top trumps with the car stats to decide what car they are going to buy. Porsche risk being squeezed with that group by the likes of the TT and the Z4 and even hot hatches overlapping on stats now. How a Focus RS drives is obviously very different from a Boxster but I'd put money on a good proportion of buyers choosing a performance car based on its stats rather than how it drives.
40 or 50k on a four cylinder when you could buy an almost-new 'old' Boxster for no more money and get a six cylinder engine?
If you're interested in cars, that's going to matter more than anything else, I'd imagine.
If you're not interested in cars - as many Boxster owners might not be - surely even bragging rights are going to matter to them? (Even if it is more powerful.) And don't they like the 'vroom vroom'?
Environmental measures are necessary, but clearly the limitations on car makers should depend on the number of cars you're making. It should be possible to make more environmental VWs, whilst not ruining Porsches.
Economically, it's not even close to being a concern for me, but if it was I'd be making sure I got a car that was pre-turbo and pre-electric power steering.
Pretty soon, cars are going to be all but ruined - and the genuine enthusiast cars are going to rocket in price.
If you're interested in cars, that's going to matter more than anything else, I'd imagine.
If you're not interested in cars - as many Boxster owners might not be - surely even bragging rights are going to matter to them? (Even if it is more powerful.) And don't they like the 'vroom vroom'?
Environmental measures are necessary, but clearly the limitations on car makers should depend on the number of cars you're making. It should be possible to make more environmental VWs, whilst not ruining Porsches.
Economically, it's not even close to being a concern for me, but if it was I'd be making sure I got a car that was pre-turbo and pre-electric power steering.
Pretty soon, cars are going to be all but ruined - and the genuine enthusiast cars are going to rocket in price.
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