RE: Porsche 718 Boxster - full details

[RoverP6B]

I like the MX5, but it's not a car with any motorsport pedigree, aside from the odd one-make series. The Boxster is more of a GT, too heavy to be truly sporting. A sports car has to be stripped, light and raced, in my book...

[anonymous-user]

RoverP6B said:

I like the MX5, but it's not a car with any motorsport pedigree, aside from the odd one-make series. The Boxster is more of a GT, too heavy to be truly sporting. A sports car has to be stripped, light and raced, in my book...

Do you mean like all the Boxster racers? Anyway according to you it would also have to be a NA I6 as well, it would probably look like your BMW.

[DonkeyApple]

RoverP6B said:

I like the MX5, but it's not a car with any motorsport pedigree, aside from the odd one-make series. The Boxster is more of a GT, too heavy to be truly sporting. A sports car has to be stripped, light and raced, in my book...

This the book?

[RoverP6B]

yonex said:

Do you mean like all the Boxster racers? Anyway according to you it would also have to be a NA I6 as well, it would probably look like your BMW.

Nah, a flat-six is good too. Nobody puts them in FMR applications - except the odd GT86 swap. Straight sixes - I only know of one RMR example (the M1). I understand why they're not commonly done.

[Ozzie Osmond]

RoverP6B said:

I like the MX5, but it's not a car with any motorsport pedigree, aside from the odd one-make series. The Boxster is more of a GT, too heavy to be truly sporting. A sports car has to be stripped, light and raced, in my book...

So let's see the list of cars which make it into your "book".

And which of them have you owned?

[nickfrog]

Or raced ? Because apparently a sports car has to be a race car.

[anonymous-user]

nickfrog said:

Or raced ? Because apparently a sports car has to be a race car.

Yes, no such thing as MX5's or Boxsters being raced or sprinted

[RoverP6B]

There's no international series in which you'll find Boxsters being raced against MX5s, Z4s, SLKs and the like as far as I'm aware. Low-level sprints and hillclimbs and small one-make series don't count. If you go back to the 60s, Austin-Healeys, ACs, Lotuses, Jaguars and the like were all being raced together.

[anonymous-user]

RoverP6B said:

There's no international series in which you'll find Boxsters being raced against MX5s, Z4s, SLKs and the like as far as I'm aware. Low-level sprints and hillclimbs and small one-make series don't count. If you go back to the 60s, Austin-Healeys, ACs, Lotuses, Jaguars and the like were all being raced together.

In fairness you're not aware of much, much less reality it seems? Anyway, half of those aren't sports cars due to their engine configurations according to you

[xRIEx]

RoverP6B said:

There's no international series in which you'll find Boxsters being raced against MX5s, Z4s, SLKs and the like as far as I'm aware.

That's because you're ignorant:

wiki said:

The following cars are currently homologated for GT4:

Aston Martin Vantage N24
Aston Martin Vantage GT4
Audi TT
BMW M3 GT4
BMW Z4
Corvette C6
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Mustang FR500GT4
Ginetta G50 GT4
KTM X-Bow GTR[1]
Lotus Evora
Maserati Gran Turismo MC
Maserati Trofeo
Mazda MX5
Nissan 350Z
Nissan 370Z
Porsche 997 GT4
Porsche Cayman
SIN R1 GT4
Toyota GT86 GT4 [2]

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT4_European_Series

A Cayman is close enough to a Boxster as far as I care.

[Coolbanana]

Is the 718 a Sports car?

Oxford English Dictionary definition:

"sports car

Definition of sports car in English:

noun

A low-built car designed for performance at high speeds, often having a roof that can be folded back".

So...
1. Low-built. Yes, I would say so in comparison with mainstream cars.
2. Designed for performance at high speeds. Yes, I would say so in that Boxsters are very adept at driving well at high speeds.
3. Often having a roof that can be folded back. Yes, the Boxster qualifies.

It seems while many ascribe their own personal definition to what is and what isn't a Sports car, the standard definition of the term according to the Oxford English Dictionary would apply to the Porsche 718.

Therefore, it would not be incorrect to describe the Porsche 718 as a Sports car.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Come back Bradley Wiggins - we've decided that thing you're riding is a bicycle after all!

[RoverP6B]

All of that could apply to a Rolls-Royce Phantom drophead, which most definitely is not a sports car.

[anonymous-user]

RoverP6B said:

All of that could apply to a Rolls-Royce Phantom drophead, which most definitely is not a sports car.

Can you stop being so obtuse? It's fairly obvious that a Rolls weighing (probably) over 2500kg isn't, cannot and wouldn't be described as anything other than what it is.

[DonkeyApple]

yonex said:

It's fairly obvious that a Rolls weighing (probably) over 2500kg isn't, cannot and wouldn't be described as anything other than what it is.

An expensive 7 Series?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1086251_next-ro...

[RoverP6B]

It's fairly low, 5.7 to 60 and 155mph electronically limited top speed (with that big V12, far more could be available)... sometimes dictionaries just aren't the best way of defining a concept.

[anonymous-user]

RoverP6B said:

It's fairly low, 5.7 to 60 and 155mph electronically limited top speed (with that big V12, far more could be available)... sometimes dictionaries just aren't the best way of defining a concept.

As unreliable as you it seems. Your definition was even worse frankly.

[PGM]

Is there any actual 718 information on this thread that can be picked out, that's what I came here for and there's a right load of cobblers to sift through?

[anonymous-user]

PGM said:

Is there any actual 718 information on this thread that can be picked out, that's what I came here for and there's a right load of cobblers to sift through?

Probably best to go and test drive one, it has been decided that;

• it's great news
• it's utter tosh
• the 718 is not a sports car
• the 718 is a sports car
• turbocharging is crap
• turbocharging is fab
• the 718 hasn't got an inline 6

[PGM]

yonex said:

PGM said:

Is there any actual 718 information on this thread that can be picked out, that's what I came here for and there's a right load of cobblers to sift through?

Probably best to go and test drive one, it has been decided that;

• it's great news
• it's utter tosh
• the 718 is not a sports car
• the 718 is a sports car
• turbocharging is crap
• turbocharging is fab
• the 718 hasn't got an inline 6