Focus RS or Mustang V8?
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skyrover said:
Watched Chris Harris's review?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoW8cW_R0w
Seems to be a great all rounder
Yes. He was reasonably complimentary, but does mention that it lacks the polish of many of its rivals. The Evo review online here: http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/mustang and also the latest, more extended review in this months magazine, all highlight that it's left lacking in its ability to cope with bumpy Uk roads, and struggles for traction. Great for the occasional junction drift, but somewhat annoying when driving around day to day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoW8cW_R0w
Seems to be a great all rounder
The Focus just peaked my interest a lot more than the Mustang. I really liked the idea of a Golf R having come from a Mk5 GTI, but it just lacked any sense of edginess and didn't feel all that fast. The Focus seems to level these criticisms, and will be a healthy step on in performance from the Cayman whilst still feeling accomplished and well rounded. The Mustang will, on the other hand, likely feel a bit aloof and slightly mismatched for the UK.
RacerMike said:
Yes. He was reasonably complimentary, but does mention that it lacks the polish of many of its rivals. The Evo review online here: http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/mustang and also the latest, more extended review in this months magazine, all highlight that it's left lacking in its ability to cope with bumpy Uk roads, and struggles for traction. Great for the occasional junction drift, but somewhat annoying when driving around day to day.
The Focus just peaked my interest a lot more than the Mustang. I really liked the idea of a Golf R having come from a Mk5 GTI, but it just lacked any sense of edginess and didn't feel all that fast. The Focus seems to level these criticisms, and will be a healthy step on in performance from the Cayman whilst still feeling accomplished and well rounded. The Mustang will, on the other hand, likely feel a bit aloof and slightly mismatched for the UK.
Two words - dampers and rubber (summer P Zeros are going to be cr*p when tested at this time of year).The Focus just peaked my interest a lot more than the Mustang. I really liked the idea of a Golf R having come from a Mk5 GTI, but it just lacked any sense of edginess and didn't feel all that fast. The Focus seems to level these criticisms, and will be a healthy step on in performance from the Cayman whilst still feeling accomplished and well rounded. The Mustang will, on the other hand, likely feel a bit aloof and slightly mismatched for the UK.
Replacing both would solve both 'perceived' deficiencies and you'd still be 20k better off than buying anything from the Euro competitors.
As for not feeling fast, the speedo doesn't lie. I think it's also the nature of the cars dynamic setup (as a GT not sports car) that makes it feel softer/slower than it really is. Stick a rorty exhaust on it and all of a sudden it's a completely different animal.
Part of the appeal of the mustang to me is the huge aftermarket support to tweak the car however I want.
That "simple but effective" V8 RWD combination with proper manual gearbox is great place to start from.
The problem with the focus IMO is it doesn't have much further to go... the Mustang is just getting warmed up.
That "simple but effective" V8 RWD combination with proper manual gearbox is great place to start from.
The problem with the focus IMO is it doesn't have much further to go... the Mustang is just getting warmed up.
"highlight that it's left lacking in its ability to cope with bumpy Uk roads, and struggles for traction."
Haven't had that trouble with mine and the local roads round here are tiny, covered in mud and full of potholes. I think the Mustang makes a half decent Rally car
To be honest I was not in the market for a new car and have been happy with my old e36 since I got it in 1997. No other car has made any impression on me apart from the one's I can't possibly afford ie 911, GTR, Aston etc.
As soon as Ford released the prices I was on the phone with my deposit. Reading some of the reviews, I was concerned that I may of made a mistake but having driving 1500 miles in mine, all I can think is that they must of been driving a different car.
Mine continues to impress me everyday.
Haven't had that trouble with mine and the local roads round here are tiny, covered in mud and full of potholes. I think the Mustang makes a half decent Rally car
To be honest I was not in the market for a new car and have been happy with my old e36 since I got it in 1997. No other car has made any impression on me apart from the one's I can't possibly afford ie 911, GTR, Aston etc.
As soon as Ford released the prices I was on the phone with my deposit. Reading some of the reviews, I was concerned that I may of made a mistake but having driving 1500 miles in mine, all I can think is that they must of been driving a different car.
Mine continues to impress me everyday.
Main issues I have is, working in vehicle development and in a role that involves a lot of driving, raw power doesn't do it for me. And I absolutely hate the idea that I'd have to buy extra after market bits to fiddle with the dynamic setup myself. If I'm spending my own money on something, I want something that's balanced and enjoyable. For me, that's a Focus RS and not a Mustang.
Excellent work from the Ford Marketing team if they've managed to convince people they can 'fix' the damping issues with a set of aftermarket dampers though!
As a side note, I'd be interested to know how many of those saying 'Mustang' would actually put their money where their mouth is...
Excellent work from the Ford Marketing team if they've managed to convince people they can 'fix' the damping issues with a set of aftermarket dampers though!
As a side note, I'd be interested to know how many of those saying 'Mustang' would actually put their money where their mouth is...
Stig said:
Cheapskate said:
In Aus they're the same price - about £26,000 on the road. A guy at work has both on order.
Weight of both is a worry for me. I drove a Mustang 5.0 about 4,000 miles back in 2012. That was great fun, but partly because the acceleration was brilliant at any speed in a ~1,500kg car.
As the CLK55 is known for being a featherweight isn't it Weight of both is a worry for me. I drove a Mustang 5.0 about 4,000 miles back in 2012. That was great fun, but partly because the acceleration was brilliant at any speed in a ~1,500kg car.
Stig said:
Two words - dampers and rubber (summer P Zeros are going to be cr*p when tested at this time of year).
Replacing both would solve both 'perceived' deficiencies and you'd still be 20k better off than buying anything from the Euro competitors.
As for not feeling fast, the speedo doesn't lie. I think it's also the nature of the cars dynamic setup (as a GT not sports car) that makes it feel softer/slower than it really is. Stick a rorty exhaust on it and all of a sudden it's a completely different animal.
Glad you mentioned the tyres - had a set on my '05 and they are st, horrible things. Once I'd replaced them the ride improved out of sight as did the handlingReplacing both would solve both 'perceived' deficiencies and you'd still be 20k better off than buying anything from the Euro competitors.
As for not feeling fast, the speedo doesn't lie. I think it's also the nature of the cars dynamic setup (as a GT not sports car) that makes it feel softer/slower than it really is. Stick a rorty exhaust on it and all of a sudden it's a completely different animal.
RacerMike said:
Why not a Nissan 370Z then? Similar performance, RWD, less money and an even bigger after market tuning market.
quite frankly - bullst! There is no way that the 350/370Z has a bigger aftermarket than either the Mustang (especially) or the Camaro (more specifically in this case the SBC)I'm biased as been rorting around in new mustang V8 for two weeks and loving it! The FRS looks fantastic too and would be my choice for 5% of the time you can really push but for 95% of the time it's the mustang for me. 3rd/4th/5th gear blasts up the road are simple fun and the car is super comfy, we'll screwed together and handles tidily in a slow in fast out style. Bargain too
RoverP6B said:
rb5er said:
Essentially fwd how? You do talk some nonsense.
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