Focus RS or Mustang V8?
Discussion
GroundEffect said:
kambites said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Just out of interest, what gearbox would Ford use, if they were going to give it an auto option?
I don't know much about what Ford favour.
They've got a 'box they call "powershift" which I think is a rebranding of a generic dual-clutch 'box from one of the major manufacturers (maybe Getrag?).I don't know much about what Ford favour.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
I presume on the Mustang they will technically infringe the minimum distance between the underside of the bonnet and highest point on the engine..... for the same reason the strut brace is left out of the EU models, despite it being a feature of the US performance pack.
If the rest of the bonnet line is lower on cars with the vent that would make sense. kambites said:
GroundEffect said:
kambites said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Just out of interest, what gearbox would Ford use, if they were going to give it an auto option?
I don't know much about what Ford favour.
They've got a 'box they call "powershift" which I think is a rebranding of a generic dual-clutch 'box from one of the major manufacturers (maybe Getrag?).I don't know much about what Ford favour.
kambites said:
5ohmustang said:
Why in Europe are bonnet vents no longer allowed? How are pedestrians safety compromised by bonnet vents?
I wasn't aware that they were not allowed? There's lots of cars on sale with bonnet vents. 
IIRC the Euro Mustang is also not going to have the full strut-brace either
mind you talking of things we don't get over here, sadly not the sort of car advert we're allowed to see
(previous generation Mustang)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOoFh2DbKQ
Edited by irocfan on Thursday 4th February 09:47
It's a toughy because they both have a certain appeal... V8 sound with iconic looks, yet the Stang is just too big & clumsy and is really just a poseurs car!! The RS will be more agile and drive absolutely brilliantly (as road tests have already confirmed) but is just too 'boy racer' with absolutely no sublety whatsoever, but then the Stang ain't exactly subtle either!! I'll stick to my Cayman I think which, although not particularly subtle, has a level of engineering and build quality which neither of these will ever match (and my 2 year old cost around the same)
That said, when Ford build a proper European coupe in the vein of the Evos concept I could well be first in line!!
That said, when Ford build a proper European coupe in the vein of the Evos concept I could well be first in line!!
Edited by nozydog on Thursday 4th February 11:30
Edited by nozydog on Thursday 4th February 11:31
kambites said:
croyde said:
Big and clumsy, it's not. Same size as a 6 series and handles. Out of the crate this Mustang is a world apart from it's previous incarnations.
Surely it's not as big as a 6-series?! Dimensions
Wheelbase 107.1 in (2,720 mm)
Length 188.3 in (4,784 mm)
Width 75.4 in (1,916 mm)
Height 54.4 in (1,381 mm)
F12 6 series
Dimensions
Wheelbase 112.4 in (2,855 mm)
Length 192.7 in (4,895 mm)
Width 74.6 in (1,895 mm)
Height 53.9 in (1,369 mm)
It's shorter but taller.
Ground effect has done it for me but as the current F30 3-series appears to dwarf my old E36, I just looked it up and it's only a tiny bit smaller than the Mustang.
Wheelbase 2,810 mm (110.6 in) 2,920 mm (115.0 in) (F35) (GT)
Length 4,624 mm (182.0 in) 4,734 mm (186.4 in) (F35)
Width 1,811 mm (71.3 in)
Height 1,429 mm (56.3 in)
So about 10cms wider and 16cms longer.
Wheelbase 2,810 mm (110.6 in) 2,920 mm (115.0 in) (F35) (GT)
Length 4,624 mm (182.0 in) 4,734 mm (186.4 in) (F35)
Width 1,811 mm (71.3 in)
Height 1,429 mm (56.3 in)
So about 10cms wider and 16cms longer.
Edited by croyde on Thursday 4th February 12:05
What I like about the Mustang is that many people don't know what it is, like when I had my Mercury Grand Marquis.
The only mention of Ford is up by the rear view on the windscreen and you only see Mustang when you open the door.
Love watching the driver and passengers of the car behind me in a traffic jam looking puzzled.
The only mention of Ford is up by the rear view on the windscreen and you only see Mustang when you open the door.
Love watching the driver and passengers of the car behind me in a traffic jam looking puzzled.
croyde said:
What I like about the Mustang is that many people don't know what it is, like when I had my Mercury Grand Marquis.
The only mention of Ford is up by the rear view on the windscreen and you only see Mustang when you open the door.
Love watching the driver and passengers of the car behind me in a traffic jam looking puzzled.
I often see that in the rear view mirror, people looking, trying to work out what it is. All that is shown on the rear is this:The only mention of Ford is up by the rear view on the windscreen and you only see Mustang when you open the door.
Love watching the driver and passengers of the car behind me in a traffic jam looking puzzled.
It also has a GT badge on each wing. No blue oval badges, no MUSTANG in big letters etc. does provide some amusement in slow moving traffic.
nozydog said:
has a level of engineering and build quality which neither of these will ever match (and my 2 year old cost around the same)
I understand the sentiment, but Ford engineering is actually very, very good and easily equal to that of Porsche. Many would argue it's better given the cost constraints! Perceived quality however, is definitely better in the Porsche.I was working on a show the other day when the main presenter came in and starting talking to the guests. First he asked Phil Collins, is that your Ford GT (I know wrong car) in the car park?
He asked the lead singer of Elbow and all the other guests.
He asked the director and the producer then one of my crew mates pointed at me and said that it was mine.
Should have seen his face
He asked the lead singer of Elbow and all the other guests.
He asked the director and the producer then one of my crew mates pointed at me and said that it was mine.
Should have seen his face
croyde said:
Out of the crate this Mustang is a world apart from it's previous incarnations.
I'd be interested to learn what you base this statement on. In what ways is the 2015 a world apart from the 2014? Not being confrontational, just curious, because in my experience, they are quite similar in most respects.croyde said:
I was working on a show the other day when the main presenter came in and starting talking to the guests. First he asked Phil Collins, is that your Ford GT (I know wrong car) in the car park?
He asked the lead singer of Elbow and all the other guests.
He asked the director and the producer then one of my crew mates pointed at me and said that it was mine.
Should have seen his face
an amusing anecdote He asked the lead singer of Elbow and all the other guests.
He asked the director and the producer then one of my crew mates pointed at me and said that it was mine.
Should have seen his face
Mustang, both cars are going to attract louts goading you to drive fast. In my experience letting the back end go deliberately as wide as the conditions and driver allow gets them to back off fast in most cases. You dont have to drive as fast as possible everywhere in a rwd v8 to have fun, hot hatches almost urge you to drive faster than the law permits.
Fair enough the Coyote engine can achieve 500bhp with several tweaks. What Ford actually said though is "another 100 bhp within 18 months". That's 525 bhp. Isn't that pushing the envelope without the sort of mods a factory car is unlikely to have? I think just perhaps that Shelby Gt350 engine might end up over here. The Yanks know there's a market over here for a high revving V8 in an affordable package. They'd sell every one they sent here... I'd have at least one
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