Focus RS or Mustang V8?
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kambites said:
The "factory mods" could easily involve a supercharger. 
Spoil sport Let me dream a while. Listen to this thing from about 22:30 onwards:https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
How much credence should be given to the rumor that after 2017 neither Mustang or F150 will have Coyote engine? I have read it in numerous places over the last year or so and talked to some FoMoCo personnel at Daytona last weekend, who just smiled wryly and said "Why do you think this (Ford GT) has V6 Ecoboost?"
kambites said:
They may well bring the flat-crank engine over here; does anyone know why it's been held back this long? Are there issues with getting EU type approval for it?
Could it be...?1. Ford believe that sales volume for the GT350 would be too low, and
2. Given the preceding, it's not worth the added cost of a (somewhat) separate RHD programme, and
3. Any Briton can purchase a LHD GT350 in the US and do a personal import -- and at a cost that would rival if not beat a Ford UK import
kambites said:
They may well bring the flat-crank engine over here; does anyone know why it's been held back this long? Are there issues with getting EU type approval for it?
They're in massive demand in the US, with dealers only getting a handful of cars it would seem in many cases they're being sold at multi-£k above list price. They're only building about 5000 a year, if they're struggling to keep up with local demand there's not a lot of point exporting them yet.unsprung said:
Could it be...?
1. Ford believe that sales volume for the GT350 would be too low, and
2. Given the preceding, it's not worth the added cost of a (somewhat) separate RHD programme, and
3. Any Briton can purchase a LHD GT350 in the US and do a personal import -- and at a cost that would rival if not beat a Ford UK import
That would explain why it's not available in the UK; it wouldn't explain why it's not available in the bits of Europe that drive on the right. 1. Ford believe that sales volume for the GT350 would be too low, and
2. Given the preceding, it's not worth the added cost of a (somewhat) separate RHD programme, and
3. Any Briton can purchase a LHD GT350 in the US and do a personal import -- and at a cost that would rival if not beat a Ford UK import
david_b said:
They're in massive demand in the US, with dealers only getting a handful of cars it would seem in many cases they're being sold at multi-£k above list price. They're only building about 5000 a year, if they're struggling to keep up with local demand there's not a lot of point exporting them yet.
This sounds more likely, although I'm surprised Ford's production capabilities are that limited unless they massively underestimated initial demand for that engine. Are they "one-man hand-assembled" engines like the old AMG ones or are they produced on a largely automated production line? Edited by kambites on Friday 5th February 07:32
kambites said:
This sounds more likely, although I'm surprised Ford's production capabilities are that limited unless they massively underestimated initial demand for that engine. Are they "one-man hand-assembled" engines like the old AMG ones or are they produced on a largely automated production line?
I'd take a guess at because much like the RHD ones they are made in batches slotted in on the regular US V6/I4/GT production runs. Its possible the specific GT350 drive train parts are hand assembled though.Edited by kambites on Friday 5th February 07:32
PanzerCommander said:
I'd take a guess at because much like the RHD ones they are made in batches slotted in on the regular US V6/I4/GT production runs. Its possible the specific GT350 drive train parts are hand assembled though.
You're probably right but if that was the limit on production you'd imagine they'd allocate more time to the GT350 if the demand was there; there's almost always more margin in the top-end cars (I suppose the exception could be if that engine is heinously expensive to produce and they're basically selling it as a loss-leading halo model) and it's better for the "brand" for there to be more of the higher end models sold. kambites said:
david_b said:
They're in massive demand in the US, with dealers only getting a handful of cars it would seem in many cases they're being sold at multi-£k above list price. They're only building about 5000 a year, if they're struggling to keep up with local demand there's not a lot of point exporting them yet.
This sounds more likely, although I'm surprised Ford's production capabilities are that limited unless they massively underestimated initial demand for that engine. Are they "one-man hand-assembled" engines like the old AMG ones or are they produced on a largely automated production line? 
Matt Harper said:
How much credence should be given to the rumor that after 2017 neither Mustang or F150 will have Coyote engine? I have read it in numerous places over the last year or so and talked to some FoMoCo personnel at Daytona last weekend, who just smiled wryly and said "Why do you think this (Ford GT) has V6 Ecoboost?"
I've seen this talked about on forums and some of the monthly auto mags even a few years back - the new EPA regs was going to put an end to the 'new gen' hemi, the Coyote and even possibly GM's LS, much beyond 2017/2018.And yes, your right, Ford were long term planning when the showed the new Ford GT with a V6.
Have to say that having an all Ford garage with both of them in would cover most bases and also be cost effective.
With some good aftermarket tuning that will be 1000 bhp via 6 wheel drive.
The interior on both is still pants, but the actual cars, well done Ford.
General Motors? Where are thee?
With some good aftermarket tuning that will be 1000 bhp via 6 wheel drive.
The interior on both is still pants, but the actual cars, well done Ford.
General Motors? Where are thee?
kambites said:
david_b said:
Each one is hand-built by two people on the "niche line" at Ford's Romeo plant. From what I've read there are only ~23 people in the team in total. The engines get signed like an AMG as well:
Maybe that's the production limit that explains the lack of exports, then.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff