RE: Ferrari 360Challenge Stradale : Spotted
Discussion
J4CKO said:
How much are normal 360's ? 50 to 80 k ?
Always amazes me how a few mechanical tweaks to ostensibly the same thing means they are worth several times more. Appreciate they made some pretty impressive changes but I would expect it to be worth a bit more, not six or seven times more but I guess its just supply and demand.
Therein lies the crux of the problem (or boon - depending on your perspective) Always amazes me how a few mechanical tweaks to ostensibly the same thing means they are worth several times more. Appreciate they made some pretty impressive changes but I would expect it to be worth a bit more, not six or seven times more but I guess its just supply and demand.
The mechanics of the CS as it relates to the standard 360 are at this point entirely irrelevant. It is now by virtue of its price a piece of art that happens to have wheels and theoretically the ability to turn them.
Stunning car but you'd be a brave man to pay that price for a car that isn't really that rare (depending on where you look between 700-1200 produced worldwide). Yes F40's were made in similar numbers but it was a 'halo' model and I'm convinced there will be some readjustments there too, The 360 CS is a 'special' of what was effectively Ferrari's mass produced car at the time, so cannot see it ever being worth 50 pct of an F40.
I think this is the year where we see sellers and buyers taking a lot longer to get a deal done, there must be a large potential supply of £300k 360 CS's but is there the demand ? Not at this price level me thinks....
I think this is the year where we see sellers and buyers taking a lot longer to get a deal done, there must be a large potential supply of £300k 360 CS's but is there the demand ? Not at this price level me thinks....
junglist said:
This kind of pricing, all be it at a much lower budget, is the bain of my life currently. I have a list of potential cars that I've been eyeing up for several years. It took me several years to save up a healthy amount to spend however I was actually working out of the country for nearly two years and planned to treat myself once I returned to the UK at the end of 2015. But as the article highlights things have gone crazy. All of the cars on my own list have seen at least 50% increases, often more. I am now in the position that I have the money to buy and comfortably run a car, however unfortunately only at prices from 2 years ago!
So now I'm stuck with a lump of dispoable income but everything I actually want to buy is not attainable any more. There are no cars I really want in the current market for the budget I now have, I feel I would just be buying for the sake of buying something. Might just forget the car market, run around in a shed and invest my money in upscaling my property!
Speculators that drive up the prices really get under my skin. For those who don't earn six figures it's a tough slog to get something you really want and a kick in the teeth when you almost get there but gets pulled from under you. I for one am hoping for a car market pricing correction, that'll learn them! But doubt that will happen any time soon.
Whilst my heart doesn't exactly bleed for you, I can see the frustration. So now I'm stuck with a lump of dispoable income but everything I actually want to buy is not attainable any more. There are no cars I really want in the current market for the budget I now have, I feel I would just be buying for the sake of buying something. Might just forget the car market, run around in a shed and invest my money in upscaling my property!
Speculators that drive up the prices really get under my skin. For those who don't earn six figures it's a tough slog to get something you really want and a kick in the teeth when you almost get there but gets pulled from under you. I for one am hoping for a car market pricing correction, that'll learn them! But doubt that will happen any time soon.
Is a possible answer a DIY car? I.e. take a car that is relatively light and fits what you want and then stick the engine you want in it? You'll get stuffed on re-sale, but just don't sell it.
Example: Put the N/A V8 from the M3 into the cheapest 944 you can find. Upgrade everything - ta-da!
Caveat: I have no idea if this would actually work.
je777 said:
Or - being more sensible - buy a 360: it's virtually the same car. And you can probably afford a bit of tuning, lightening, etc.
The trouble here is that a normal 360 is on my original list and they have increased by amounts that pull it out of my comfort zone (I could buy the cheapest but wouldn't be left with a safety margin to run it). I stubbornly refuse to pay considerably more for a car that could have been had much cheaper a few years ago.While I'm at it ranting, houses have gone silly too, I have a place in WIltshire that I want to sell to buy in Surrey where I work. In the 6 years I've owned it it's increased perhaps 20% in value, the equivalent house in Surrey is pushing 40% increase in a similar period, again making it an almost unobtainable move.
Yes I realise it's a "First World" dilema I'm having, but the rich get richer, the poor stay poor and me, well I just get frustrated and whittle my life away ranting on the internet.
WCZ said:
LHD higher mileage examples can be had for £50k in Europe if you'd like to save yourself ~£280k
At Snetterton last weekend there was a Left hooker there. Unfortunately I never seemed to be on track at the same time - wanted to see just how quick those things were (basically same power as my car but a lot lighter).Leins said:
Make this 348 GTC look a bit of a bargain, especially when compared to 964RS prices: http://www.simonfurlonger.co.uk/docs2/cars/EFApuZF...
I'm sure they had this up for 250k recently which is a lot of cash for a car that driven at speed is like riding a drunk tiger birdcage said:
Leins said:
Make this 348 GTC look a bit of a bargain, especially when compared to 964RS prices: http://www.simonfurlonger.co.uk/docs2/cars/EFApuZF...
I'm sure they had this up for 250k recently which is a lot of cash for a car that driven at speed is like riding a drunk tiger
I'd only really want it for the seats anyway! 
It was POA at one stage too, but think it's been hanging about for quite a while nowOT from Ferraris, but there's also a 924 CGT for sale at £40k. Dealers seemed to try and push for £70k+ on these at one stage, although I've no idea what they were actually selling for last year. However, are some "guaranteed investment" cars now beginning to become harder to shift, or is it just the time of the year?
A (rich) bloke I know bought an uber mint example of these for less than $130K. Money really does beget money.
My impressions having been driven on track in one is that I was underwhelmed at the acceleration but f
king amazed how well it could shed speed and seemingly without a hint of fade.
I remember suggesting to the owner at the time that he could have got just as good a car for $70K and put some bucket seats in it (well fettled it for under 20). Just goes to show why he's rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice and I drive a 25yr old Merc.
My impressions having been driven on track in one is that I was underwhelmed at the acceleration but f
king amazed how well it could shed speed and seemingly without a hint of fade.I remember suggesting to the owner at the time that he could have got just as good a car for $70K and put some bucket seats in it (well fettled it for under 20). Just goes to show why he's rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice and I drive a 25yr old Merc.
they are totally worth their money: people still buy them (most trades done outside PHeads!!! and without brokers in the middle) and still run them.
People here would be surprised at how many of these have past 30kmiles or 50kkm (which is wrongly considered high for a Ferrari)
Furthermore nobody here picks up on also cars from other marques such as Porsches from all 911 range: check 2.0/2.4 T,E,S, 3.2 Carrera, 964RS, 993RS, 997GT3RS...all of these cars have gone the same way
this is a French owner who bought his in the last 2 years...and tracks it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_27b5cD8M
and more pictures here
http://forzapassione.fr/fr/rassemblement/SC15/jour...
this is me on my first Stradale, on the second day I owned it...learning it on track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeiNrs_P6A
note: they are so good I actually bought my second one a couple months ago (after having had both a 575HGTC and a Scud last year and a 964RS the year before)...and yes I paid a lot more this time around than in 2012
People here would be surprised at how many of these have past 30kmiles or 50kkm (which is wrongly considered high for a Ferrari)
Furthermore nobody here picks up on also cars from other marques such as Porsches from all 911 range: check 2.0/2.4 T,E,S, 3.2 Carrera, 964RS, 993RS, 997GT3RS...all of these cars have gone the same way
this is a French owner who bought his in the last 2 years...and tracks it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_27b5cD8M
and more pictures here
http://forzapassione.fr/fr/rassemblement/SC15/jour...
this is me on my first Stradale, on the second day I owned it...learning it on track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeiNrs_P6A
note: they are so good I actually bought my second one a couple months ago (after having had both a 575HGTC and a Scud last year and a 964RS the year before)...and yes I paid a lot more this time around than in 2012
Edited by 911Thrasher on Thursday 28th January 14:32
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