"If only they'd made it with....."

"If only they'd made it with....."

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cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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GreatPretender said:
Just about every recent performance car with a manual 'box:

- M3 CSL
- European market M5 (>E39)
- Merc C63
- 991 GT3
- Any Ferrari >2010

Etc.
yes

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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F56 Mini JCW with the 230 BHP version of the 1.5L 3 cylinder out of the i8 rather than the heavier 2L 4 cylinder.




toon10

6,185 posts

157 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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A GT86 with more horsepower. (Has that been discussed on PH already?)

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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toon10 said:
A GT86 with more horsepower. (Has that been discussed on PH already?)
hehe it has and I agree with you!

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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If only they'd made the Audi A8 Avantissimo.


cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I would have liked to have seen the S65 V8 from the E92 M3 put into a Z4.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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A Boxster/Cayman flat four with a supercharger instead of the turbo.

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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toon10 said:
A GT86 with more horsepower. (Has that been discussed on PH already?)
I am a huge fan of the GT86 concept, and can't wait for them to get to more affordable (by me) money.

I wish that it was not the only small hard top car on the market, and that mazda had made these in volume for the UK market



Small Coupe's used to be common place, e.g. Tigra Mk1, Puma etc, however never RWD. Tiny RWD coupes weighing roughly a tonne would be a wonderful treat for all motoring enthusiasts.

It's not the soft top that I dislike in the roadster alternatives, it's just that I'd prefer to be surrounded in water tight metal and glass, preferably with a modest hatch back luggage space in the rear.

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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cerb4.5lee said:
I couldn't believe how critical Car magazine were with its recent group test of the M4 and they absolutely slated the engine and just described it similar to a gutsy diesel engine and if that isn't a massive put down then I don't know what is.

I didn't agree with them though saying that they preferred the last generation V8 version more but it does seem that BMW have missed the mark with the current engine though for reward and satisfaction.
Don't get me wrong, it's a hugely competent engine and for day-to-day driving it's better than the old V8. The problem is IMO an M car has to be able to do the hair-on-fire thing as well as it does the daily grind and in that regard the new engine is definitely lacking, it gives up just where the old V8 got going.

I know quite a lot of people, yourself included found the old engine a bit too much hard work but the new one has gone too far the other way. If they could have made the new engine with the flexibly it has in the low\mid range but with the fireworks that the old one provided at the top end, it would be the perfect car. I'm still waiting for someone besides the 6 figure exotics like Ferrari or Mclaren, to make a modern turbo-charged engine with some character.

scrwright

2,619 posts

190 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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SAAB 9-5 / 9000 Aero with AWD/RWD

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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scrwright said:
SAAB 9-5 / 9000 Aero with AWD/RWD
On a similar note, a proper Alfa Romeo 159 GTA, preferably RWD.

ambuletz

10,735 posts

181 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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suprised nobody has said power steering. Seems to be that everyone in the last decade hated cars that used electric instead of hydraulic.

jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,036 posts

130 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Shaoxter said:
Learn to use it properly and do the SMG reset procedure.

SMG moaning is pretty tiresome from people who've driven it for 15 mins in auto mode expecting it to drive like an auto box. Not necessarily directed at you OP as I don't know how long you've tried it for, but I find it absolutely fine even living in London. And then when you take it to the Nurburgring everything makes sense!! driving
My experience in them is fairly limited, none of it pleasant. I am sure I would eventually "get used" to it - but the issue really is the fact it doesn't seem to be the world's most reliable gearbox either.

By all accounts the manual version the USA got actually wasn't that great either... but as we never got it here we'll never know!

jayemm89

Original Poster:

4,036 posts

130 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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ambuletz said:
suprised nobody has said power steering. Seems to be that everyone in the last decade hated cars that used electric instead of hydraulic.
Very true. Although bizarrely the only car I can think of from recent times that did without it (Alfa 4C) got completely slated for its steering.

I would also have loved to have seen an Alfa GTV with RWD. I would have had one if it was the case. FWD in that package seemed off.

Audidodat

182 posts

99 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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A C1/106/Aygo with about 170bhp would have been a fairly epic little hot hatch.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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..an XKR with a manual box

s m

23,226 posts

203 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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jayemm89 said:
Very true. Although bizarrely the only car I can think of from recent times that did without it (Alfa 4C) got completely slated for its steering.

I would also have loved to have seen an Alfa GTV with RWD. I would have had one if it was the case. FWD in that package seemed off.
Similar to the gtv6?

Shaoxter

4,079 posts

124 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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jayemm89 said:
but the issue really is the fact it doesn't seem to be the world's most reliable gearbox either.
Ok the SMG is not as reliable as the gearbox in a Mondeo but it's more reliable than other cars with 500bhp on tap! I think sometimes people forget this...

jayemm89 said:
By all accounts the manual version the USA got actually wasn't that great either... but as we never got it here we'll never know!
We do know, the manual one in the US is the same as the E90 M3 one.

chucklebutty

319 posts

243 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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...any car with OEM Davanti tyres.


Am I doing this right?

Ryang94

43 posts

111 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Would of likes a Audi S1 With S-tronic..

  • prepares for cannon fodder*