No more white lines on main roads! Really?
Discussion
boyse7en said:
This isn't aimed at Motorways, major A roads or even out of town unlit B roads. The idea is to make people pay more attention in urban driving environments.
The element of uncertainty (eg. at a junction, if no one has priority then you have to check and interact with other drivers to establish who gives way) helps to ensure that drivers and other road users think about their driving and drive to the conditions rather than just assuming that they will be alright and steaming through.
The Toryograph article refers to a pilot scheme in North Norfolk, Blakeney perhaps?The element of uncertainty (eg. at a junction, if no one has priority then you have to check and interact with other drivers to establish who gives way) helps to ensure that drivers and other road users think about their driving and drive to the conditions rather than just assuming that they will be alright and steaming through.
Idiotic idea, hesitant motorists = dangerous motorists.
Has anyone that's moaning actually ever been on a road where this has been done? It actually works really well! People aren't complete morons (despite what the gods on here think!) - they know to keep to the left!
I would wager that in fog if you're going fast enough to need the white line to see where you're going then you probably need to slow down a bit.
I would wager that in fog if you're going fast enough to need the white line to see where you're going then you probably need to slow down a bit.
SuperPav said:
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My worry would be if it slows lots of people down, but actually creates a higher rate of accidents or near misses due to some people's inability to place their car appropriately on the road without some sort of offside marking.
This is what mini-roundabouts are for, surely?My worry would be if it slows lots of people down, but actually creates a higher rate of accidents or near misses due to some people's inability to place their car appropriately on the road without some sort of offside marking.
thecremeegg said:
Has anyone that's moaning actually ever been on a road where this has been done? It actually works really well! People aren't complete morons (despite what the gods on here think!) - they know to keep to the left!
I would wager that in fog if you're going fast enough to need the white line to see where you're going then you probably need to slow down a bit.
When roads have been re-surfaced near me and there is a week or so without lines I have noticed that generally people drive slower and pay more attention, myself included; I think that doing away with the lines gets rid of a type of security blanket and makes you pay more attention.I would wager that in fog if you're going fast enough to need the white line to see where you're going then you probably need to slow down a bit.
I am all for it on local roads.
I find people driver better and traffic flows better when traffic lights are out of action too.
V8 Fettler said:
The Toryograph article refers to a pilot scheme in North Norfolk, Blakeney perhaps?
Idiotic idea, hesitant motorists = dangerous motorists.
Been trying to find out where in North Norfolk that is, but Google just throws up all the copy and paste articles from the original one.Idiotic idea, hesitant motorists = dangerous motorists.
North Norfolk district council (which I guess is what they're talking about rather than the geographical area) covers a few towns so maybe somewhere like Fakenham or Holt will be the lucky town.
Sheepshanks said:
There isn't a "side of the road" - it's just a road. Same as "my right of way" - a road is a right of way.
Can you clarify what you mean here? Presumably in an accident where two cars are both obeying the speed limit and there are no other factors, a car that enters the 'lane of the other' would surely be to blame in a head-on collision.Regarding right of way. Same thing. If a car pulls out across another when it is signposted to give way, I'd have thought 'right of way' would be exactly what determines blame.
I think the road being a 'right of way' and the assignment of 'right of way' mean two different things.
Ali_T said:
Have the morons that proposed this ever driven on a country road at night? Absolutely f**king idiotic idea. Who do we vote out to prevent this happening? Or who do we put under the guillotine first when the revolution comes?
'Country road at night'? This is a proposal for urban streets.
so trueNo lines? It won't happen.
It'll be proposed, run through a safety audit, the designers will be told it'll not work, it will create more risks than it solves, and will be recommended that white lines go down. I can't see many local councillors willing to put their neck on the line over something so substantial.
It'll be proposed, run through a safety audit, the designers will be told it'll not work, it will create more risks than it solves, and will be recommended that white lines go down. I can't see many local councillors willing to put their neck on the line over something so substantial.
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