M6 Gridlock this morning
Discussion
Took three hours to travel about 4 miles this morning. I wouldn't have minded except my sat nav failed to pick up the problem and there wasn't a warning when exiting from BHX aiport. Thoughts go out to those involved, sounded horrendous and took out the central reservation. I am still surprised they couldn't tidy it up or at least keep a lane or two open whilst working on it overnight.
Willy Nilly said:
What do these accident investigations actually achieve overall?
Establishing whether someone should be prosecuted (obviously if anyone remains alive) and detailed information for the Coroner. It's annoying when roads are shut for sometime, but they are treated as crime scenes and part of the strategy is always looking to open roads as soon as possible and minimise disruption.
La Liga said:
Willy Nilly said:
What do these accident investigations actually achieve overall?
Establishing whether someone should be prosecuted (obviously if anyone remains alive) and detailed information for the Coroner. It's annoying when roads are shut for sometime, but they are treated as crime scenes and part of the strategy is always looking to open roads as soon as possible and minimise disruption.
Willy Nilly said:
So what has the benefit been over all? Has information been gained from doing these that has lead to less road deaths? Has the amount of disruption caused by the investigations been paid back by reduced disruptions? AFAIK this crash happened in the wee small hours. I'll wager someone just nodded off. People make mistakes on roads as a rule, they don't murder people, the priority should be getting the road open.
Sounding a weeeeeeee bit selfish there.Willy Nilly said:
So what has the benefit been over all? Has information been gained from doing these that has lead to less road deaths? Has the amount of disruption caused by the investigations been paid back by reduced disruptions? AFAIK this crash happened in the wee small hours. I'll wager someone just nodded off. People make mistakes on roads as a rule, they don't murder people, the priority should be getting the road open.
If it was my wife or child that had been killed I'd want a thorough explanation.. I can imagine my reaction if they said they didn't bother so they didn't hold people up. Willy Nilly said:
So what has the benefit been over all? Has information been gained from doing these that has lead to less road deaths? Has the amount of disruption caused by the investigations been paid back by reduced disruptions? AFAIK this crash happened in the wee small hours. I'll wager someone just nodded off. People make mistakes on roads as a rule, they don't murder people, the priority should be getting the road open.
Bloke on internet thinks he knows best. Willy Nilly said:
So what has the benefit been over all? Has information been gained from doing these that has lead to less road deaths? Has the amount of disruption caused by the investigations been paid back by reduced disruptions? AFAIK this crash happened in the wee small hours. I'll wager someone just nodded off. People make mistakes on roads as a rule, they don't murder people, the priority should be getting the road open.
And deprive the authorities of the chance to destroy someone who's already in a very bad place having made a horrendous mistake? Heavens no, we've got to kick these people while they're down.Willy Nilly said:
What do these accident investigations actually achieve overall?
Nothing new.I have a new policy to keep the roads open.
Park JCBs at regular intervals at accident hot spots.
Have an accident? Car won't move?
JCB will remove offending vehicle(s) to the ditch.
Corpses can be removed out of harms way.
Traffic flows. Everyone's happy!
Willy Nilly said:
La Liga said:
Willy Nilly said:
What do these accident investigations actually achieve overall?
Establishing whether someone should be prosecuted (obviously if anyone remains alive) and detailed information for the Coroner. It's annoying when roads are shut for sometime, but they are treated as crime scenes and part of the strategy is always looking to open roads as soon as possible and minimise disruption.
About 10 years ago now there was someone on a bridge over the M6 in the midlands who was threatening to jump. It gridlocked the whole area for hours. I remember thinking if was near i'd have pushed the f
ker off myself.
But, in these situations, why don't the police just set up a big inflatable bag and then tranquil dart the guy. It seems they pussy around these things too much.
ker off myself.But, in these situations, why don't the police just set up a big inflatable bag and then tranquil dart the guy. It seems they pussy around these things too much.
Had to be resurfaced due to damage from the spilled fuel. I think some barrier also needed replacing. Add to that debris / vehicle removal, crash / death scene investigation, it takes some time.
I know it's a big inconvenience to a lot of people, but try to remember that some has actually died. I think that's more significant than being held up in traffic.
I know it's a big inconvenience to a lot of people, but try to remember that some has actually died. I think that's more significant than being held up in traffic.
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