Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

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Blown2CV

28,907 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th January
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AmyRichardson said:
Blown2CV said:
what they should have said was that after about 1995 they forgot how to make good cars, and it was their output from then had no appeal.
His comments were on the nose; the brand has heritage, but they'd never defined their market position (rallying? slightly sexy/luxurious mid-market? something else?) and had nothing that could be monetised by 2004.
Lancia certainly does have a long heritage all the way back to the early part of the 20th century. They were founded in 1906 and made some incredible cars. That's different to racing pedigree, i'm not really talking about that. It isn't really about meandering around different market segments either, and it's really quite simple. The reason they didn't continue this heritage is over the course of 20 years from the 90s they exclusively produced totally wk bland cars. Yes of course after that, they would have ruined the brand - totally obvious.

POIDH

820 posts

66 months

Wednesday 17th January
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V 02 said:
At work, have to bite my tongue and keep my mouth shut as I am prone to making snarky comments which will make me look like a prick

From the colleagues around my age (late teens/early 20s)




Another:


Me casually mentioning I need to take my car for its major service soon

“I need to take my car for a service soon”

“I do mine every year”

“Oh really, where do you get it done?”

“Just the MOT centre”

“So do you mean a service or MOT?”

“MOT”

“But I mean a service”

“What’s that”

“You know, like maintenance”

“Oh, I never do that, I have a Toyota, it only goes in for its MOT and that’s it”

“Do you at least change the oil?”

“Nah, never done it in 3 years, what’s the point”


?!?!
You have met some of my family then?
My other half worked with a young lass who had a 4 year old Aygo implode somehow - she had borrowed to the max to buy it, then managed to drive nearly 100k in it over those 4 years - and had never taken it in for a service or checked anything. Apparently the only thing she did was new tyres when colleagues were pointing out they were bald. We think she basically ran out of oil, and we are not sure it had an MOT. She was really upset when it blew up as she had one more year of loan on it. My other half tried to discuss maintenance, but was told it was a new car and they should just work...

CanAm

9,261 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th January
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robinessex said:
SCJM21 said:
"I don't know, I put 5,000 in my insurance as it makes it cheaper but I probably do a lot more haha"
Works, but............... If you have a claim, the insurance company will look online at the MOT history to check it's mileage. They might even do that when you renew your insurance.
It's only an estimate, but if they check up and find it's been higher for a number of years they could get awkward. I have a limited mileage policy and it makes it very clear (in what many on here would claim is "the smallprint") that should that mileage be exceeded, cover reduces to TP Only.

Blown2CV

28,907 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th January
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CanAm said:
robinessex said:
SCJM21 said:
"I don't know, I put 5,000 in my insurance as it makes it cheaper but I probably do a lot more haha"
Works, but............... If you have a claim, the insurance company will look online at the MOT history to check it's mileage. They might even do that when you renew your insurance.
It's only an estimate, but if they check up and find it's been higher for a number of years they could get awkward. I have a limited mileage policy and it makes it very clear (in what many on here would claim is "the smallprint") that should that mileage be exceeded, cover reduces to TP Only.
the guy was posting it as an example of something stupid a non-petrolhead had said.

Rumdoodle

713 posts

21 months

Wednesday 17th January
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murphyaj said:
daqinggregg said:
Last night I was dreaming about Alfa Romeo and Lancia, more specifically the demise of Lancia, as you do.

This morning I did a search ‘What happened to Lancia’.

"We realized the Lancia brand has no appeal outside of Italy," then CEO Sergio Marchionne said in July 2014. "It has no heritage neither in Europe nor in the U.S."

No wonder the brand is not doing very well, with leadership like that.
He's right though. among the 0.5% of the population who are car enthusiasts Lancia is legendary, but that's not enough to market a semi-mainstream brand. Even among car enthusiasts it's only the older ones who will remember the Lancia heyday. If you were to go out into the street in the UK you'd probably struggle to find a single person under 40 who knew what Lancia was.
The export sales must have only ever been tiny, though? I can't find any stats, but his comment makes sense if that was the case.

CanAm

9,261 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Blown2CV said:
the guy was posting it as an example of something stupid a non-petrolhead had said.
Noted. I do get carried away sometimes and forget which thread I'm on.

SCJM21

177 posts

151 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Blown2CV said:
the guy was posting it as an example of something stupid a non-petrolhead had said.
Yes, this was purely hearsay I heard across the office!

RazerSauber

2,295 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th January
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I can't remember if it was on a different forum or perhaps an earlier version of this thread but I'll recant as best I can.

A chap was stopped at a petrol station in (I think) a Caterham. Some young fellas came over saying it looked nice etc and asked how fast it was. He told them it was geared to 120 at the minute. The young fellas laughed and one advised his dad's Vectra was faster because it could do 140.

Gad-Westy

14,580 posts

214 months

Wednesday 17th January
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RazerSauber said:
I can't remember if it was on a different forum or perhaps an earlier version of this thread but I'll recant as best I can.

A chap was stopped at a petrol station in (I think) a Caterham. Some young fellas came over saying it looked nice etc and asked how fast it was. He told them it was geared to 120 at the minute. The young fellas laughed and one advised his dad's Vectra was faster because it could do 140.
I think that was me in my Westfield. Probably on this thread somewhere. It was a quick car that, about 220bhp and it would quite violently hit the limiter in top. It’s no vectra though smile

Second Best

6,410 posts

182 months

Monday 4th March
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Bit of a thread resurrection, and it's something so minor I've no idea why it irked me so much.

Colleague of mine has got a new car - it's a Peugeot 3008 of some flavour. She's not a petrolhead but was very excited for her 24-plate car, understandable and the other folks in the office were happy for her. Me too, obviously.

However there's one thing she said that stuck with me. She had upgraded from a Nissan Juke and she was commenting how her new car had a "smart handbrake".

I was puzzled, wondering if it was something new I'd not heard about, but from what I can gather when I asked, it's just a normal electronic handbrake with hill hold assist.

I guess with everything being called "smart" these days, it shouldn't be a surprise someone uses that term for an electronic handbrake, especially having had a normal cable handbrake in her previous car, but I don't know why that particular term stuck with me.

WarrenB

2,424 posts

119 months

Tuesday 5th March
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^ For some reason that reminded me of something my best mate at high school said to me. It was 1998 and the Ford Focus had only just been released. My mate came into school bragging about his uncles new car that he'd just been dropped off in. To be fair to him his parents didn't drive, so his experience in cars was pretty limited.

'My uncle has just dropped me off in his new car, it's well smart. It's got an electric sunroof and windows, and the radio even tells you what radio station you're listening too!' He was genuinely excited.

I asked what car it was

'It's a Ford... Ford... something or other...'

I was expecting him to say Focus, it'd just been released, me and my other car nerd friends had discussed how brilliant it looked, etc. and with him bragging about this smart new Ford we weren't expecting him to say anything different.

'A Ford... ORION! That's it. A Ford Orion. It's well smart....' he went on, mainly about the amazing radio that told you the name of the station....

mattyn1

5,791 posts

156 months

Tuesday 5th March
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I loved my Orion - a 1.6i Ghia no less! F reg - I was the dog's dangles!!

My memory might be a bit foggy but I am sure it had the power amp in the centre console as well as the RDS Stereo!!



First car I had with tape holders too!

Pan Pan Pan

9,950 posts

112 months

Wednesday 6th March
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HorneyMX5 said:
It's because diesel drivers love the feeling of a good jerk off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk_(physics)
Anyone who buys a diesel for `performance' is doing it wrong (albeit some can be quite quick) Diesels are generally bought for more than two seats, low fuel consumption, long range, good pulling power with a full load on, and relatively low running costs.
All the things in fact, that one usually does NOT buy a performance car for.

Pan Pan Pan

9,950 posts

112 months

Wednesday 6th March
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I know it is an old (Non petrol head) saying, but there are still some saying, `That if we build more roads, they will only be filled up with more cars'
We could just as easily say, if we build more schools, they will only get filled up with more children, Or if we build more hospitals, they will only get filled up with more sick or injured people, Or if we build more houses they will only get filled up with more people.

dino_jr

354 posts

177 months

Wednesday 6th March
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Second Best said:
... She had upgraded from a Nissan Juke and she was commenting how her new car had a "smart handbrake"...
I think the Peugeots auto-engage the handbrake when you turn off the engine. i.e get home, stop engine / get out. Handbrake goes on.
Smartish I guess?

GroundEffect

13,845 posts

157 months

Wednesday 6th March
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Second Best said:
Bit of a thread resurrection, and it's something so minor I've no idea why it irked me so much.

Colleague of mine has got a new car - it's a Peugeot 3008 of some flavour. She's not a petrolhead but was very excited for her 24-plate car, understandable and the other folks in the office were happy for her. Me too, obviously.

However there's one thing she said that stuck with me. She had upgraded from a Nissan Juke and she was commenting how her new car had a "smart handbrake".

I was puzzled, wondering if it was something new I'd not heard about, but from what I can gather when I asked, it's just a normal electronic handbrake with hill hold assist.

I guess with everything being called "smart" these days, it shouldn't be a surprise someone uses that term for an electronic handbrake, especially having had a normal cable handbrake in her previous car, but I don't know why that particular term stuck with me.
You can do all sorts of fun things with an EPB:

- Auto disengage when someone puts foot on the brake to go into drive or first
- Auto engage when park is selected (auto)
- Auto engage when the driver's door is opened after a drive event
- Auto engage on a hill for hill-holding

I'd call that smart.

daqinggregg

1,547 posts

130 months

Wednesday 6th March
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Could be in for a bit of slapping, but here goes.

Automotive journalist who spout utter testicles on even the most basic of topics. Below is and excerpt from the bio, of once such BBS (Billy Bull*******)

BBS is an accomplished automotive journalist and editor with a passion for cars. With over a decade of experience in the industry, he has established himself as a trusted voice in the automotive community.

At the moment, I’m doing a little research on a lesser known car, simply out of curiosity.

“For those seeking even greater power and performance, the V12 engines in the Nissan President took performance to the next level. With their exceptional power output, these engines provided a thrilling driving experience that pushed the boundaries of what a luxury sedan could achieve. The V12 engines in the President delivered immense horsepower and torque, delivering blistering acceleration and exhilarating top speeds.”

Now I’m not the sharpest writing implement in the pencil case. However, as far as I know, the only road going production car in Japan is the ‘Toyota Century V12’ a fact which I think is widely known.


Drew106

1,402 posts

146 months

Wednesday 6th March
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GroundEffect said:
Second Best said:
Bit of a thread resurrection, and it's something so minor I've no idea why it irked me so much.

Colleague of mine has got a new car - it's a Peugeot 3008 of some flavour. She's not a petrolhead but was very excited for her 24-plate car, understandable and the other folks in the office were happy for her. Me too, obviously.

However there's one thing she said that stuck with me. She had upgraded from a Nissan Juke and she was commenting how her new car had a "smart handbrake".

I was puzzled, wondering if it was something new I'd not heard about, but from what I can gather when I asked, it's just a normal electronic handbrake with hill hold assist.

I guess with everything being called "smart" these days, it shouldn't be a surprise someone uses that term for an electronic handbrake, especially having had a normal cable handbrake in her previous car, but I don't know why that particular term stuck with me.
You can do all sorts of fun things with an EPB:

- Auto disengage when someone puts foot on the brake to go into drive or first
- Auto engage when park is selected (auto)
- Auto engage when the driver's door is opened after a drive event
- Auto engage on a hill for hill-holding

I'd call that smart.
Yes, but how does one do a handbrake turn?

Whitean3

2,185 posts

199 months

Wednesday 6th March
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daqinggregg said:
Could be in for a bit of slapping, but here goes.

Automotive journalist who spout utter testicles on even the most basic of topics. Below is and excerpt from the bio, of once such BBS (Billy Bull*******)

BBS is an accomplished automotive journalist and editor with a passion for cars. With over a decade of experience in the industry, he has established himself as a trusted voice in the automotive community.

At the moment, I’m doing a little research on a lesser known car, simply out of curiosity.

“For those seeking even greater power and performance, the V12 engines in the Nissan President took performance to the next level. With their exceptional power output, these engines provided a thrilling driving experience that pushed the boundaries of what a luxury sedan could achieve. The V12 engines in the President delivered immense horsepower and torque, delivering blistering acceleration and exhilarating top speeds.”

Now I’m not the sharpest writing implement in the pencil case. However, as far as I know, the only road going production car in Japan is the ‘Toyota Century V12’ a fact which I think is widely known.
Yup- pretty sure it's just the Toyota with a V12- the Nissan President had a V8 i think. What is worse here is the paragraph you quoted- that reads to me like it was AI-generated- not actually written by a human being- it says something vague and repetitive. Any decent journalist/writer would do a lot better than that.

donkmeister

8,228 posts

101 months

Wednesday 6th March
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Whitean3 said:
daqinggregg said:
Could be in for a bit of slapping, but here goes.

Automotive journalist who spout utter testicles on even the most basic of topics. Below is and excerpt from the bio, of once such BBS (Billy Bull*******)

BBS is an accomplished automotive journalist and editor with a passion for cars. With over a decade of experience in the industry, he has established himself as a trusted voice in the automotive community.

At the moment, I’m doing a little research on a lesser known car, simply out of curiosity.

“For those seeking even greater power and performance, the V12 engines in the Nissan President took performance to the next level. With their exceptional power output, these engines provided a thrilling driving experience that pushed the boundaries of what a luxury sedan could achieve. The V12 engines in the President delivered immense horsepower and torque, delivering blistering acceleration and exhilarating top speeds.”

Now I’m not the sharpest writing implement in the pencil case. However, as far as I know, the only road going production car in Japan is the ‘Toyota Century V12’ a fact which I think is widely known.
Yup- pretty sure it's just the Toyota with a V12- the Nissan President had a V8 i think. What is worse here is the paragraph you quoted- that reads to me like it was AI-generated- not actually written by a human being- it says something vague and repetitive. Any decent journalist/writer would do a lot better than that.
Welp, that just took me on a brief but interesting jaunt through the annals of JDM V8 barges. I had no idea that even Mitsubishi did one, the Dignity. First gen was a JV with Hyundai (the latter's model of course being the Equus), and the second gen was a rebadged Nissan, using a LWB version of the platform used on various Infiniti cars, the Nissan 350Z, 370Z and Elgrand people carrier. Versatile platform!