40mph?

[theboss]

R8VXF said:

Wills2 said:

Large numbers of people seem to have adopted/transferred the British "queue" mentality into every day driving and they think that some how you're queue jumping by overtaking. I think that has also lead to a rise in tailgating as people won't get past they just want to push the car in front to go faster...

I was thinking exactly the same thing just the other day.

The problem is that a lot of the time they do literally form queues and then anyone who displays any intention to pass the queue is treated with utter contempt and aggression.

I was behind half a dozen cars and a tractor recently - doing 15mph on a NSL A road and knowing it could be travelling for a good few miles with few opportunities to pull in. Overtaking opportunities weren't great (so far as doing the whole lot was concerned) but there are countless opportunities for the lead car to pass the tractor one by one. But nobody moved at all, until eventually we hit a longer straight and a Golf driver about 3 cars back cleared the lot.

I immediately went for the sizeable gap the Golf left but on 'slotting in' the guy now behind me went utterly berserk - headlights flashing, gesticulating weaving across the center line. Round the corner, another clear straight and so I clear the remainder of the queue - I only 'borrowed' the reasonable gap for about 10 seconds and was on my way.

I was amazed to see that the lead car sitting behind the tractor for all that time was a BMW E65 750i with about 360bhp.

[graham22]

Pete317 said:

graham22 said:

40mph - it's the speed they can go without worrying about concentrating - simple.

...until something happens which catches them out because they're not paying sufficient attention

Then they just stop or are innocent victims of someone else's mistake (which they could have help avoid - eg: kid running off of pavement).

I don't just mean concentrating on around them but driving in general, car's in 4th gear (5th is for motorways), just point ahead and turn slightly for the corners.

No need to worry about speed limits, probably will never get nicked for 40 (speedo corrected 36) in a 30 as probably caught in traffic on the odd day there's a speed trap.

[TREMAiNE]

Roger Irrelevant said:

The OP was late due to being held up by someone doing 40 on the internet.

[Wills2]

theboss said:

R8VXF said:

Wills2 said:

Large numbers of people seem to have adopted/transferred the British "queue" mentality into every day driving and they think that some how you're queue jumping by overtaking. I think that has also lead to a rise in tailgating as people won't get past they just want to push the car in front to go faster...

I was thinking exactly the same thing just the other day.

The problem is that a lot of the time they do literally form queues and then anyone who displays any intention to pass the queue is treated with utter contempt and aggression.

I was behind half a dozen cars and a tractor recently - doing 15mph on a NSL A road and knowing it could be travelling for a good few miles with few opportunities to pull in. Overtaking opportunities weren't great (so far as doing the whole lot was concerned) but there are countless opportunities for the lead car to pass the tractor one by one. But nobody moved at all, until eventually we hit a longer straight and a Golf driver about 3 cars back cleared the lot.

I immediately went for the sizeable gap the Golf left but on 'slotting in' the guy now behind me went utterly berserk - headlights flashing, gesticulating weaving across the center line. Round the corner, another clear straight and so I clear the remainder of the queue - I only 'borrowed' the reasonable gap for about 10 seconds and was on my way.

I was amazed to see that the lead car sitting behind the tractor for all that time was a BMW E65 750i with about 360bhp.

Good job we've got nearly 1700hp between our 3 cars to help solve the issue.

[littleredrooster]

simion_levi said:

littleredrooster said:

.:ian:. said:

SpudLink said:

Recently attended a 'speed awareness course'. It's supprised me how many people actually believe NSL is 40 or 50 on roads where it's 60.

- Shows picture of a dual carriageway that only has 1 lane on each carriageway.. "Whats the speed limit on this road?"

"40?!"
"50?!"
"30?!"

Indeed. Of the 24 people on my recent course, I was the ONLY ONE who correctly said 60. One thought it was 70, everyone else said 40 or 50. Un-fekkin-believable ignorance! In a similar vein, only two of us knew that if a road (other than a m-way!) had a system of street-lighting, it was a 30 limit unless signed otherwise.

Oh dear. One person got it right, but I'm afraid it wasn't you.

Oh dear indeed...much humble pie to be eaten...I failed to spot the 'dual carriageway' bit and thought we were still talking about single carriageway roads. Bolleaux!

[WD39]

Pete317 said:

Hoofy said:

It's 30 for a reason!!!

That's sooooo last decade - nowadays it's Twenty's Plenty!

That's of course until they come up with a snappy soundbite for Ten!

'It's ten, but only for the men.'

'If your name is Ben you can't do more than ten.'

'Here we go again, the speed limit drops to ten.'

'For Audi and BMW drivers, it's ten, yes TEN.'

'Slow down then ,because it's a ten.'

'Fifty when you're nifty, fourty when you're naughty, thirty when you're dirty, twenty that is plenty, ten..
(ran out of rhymes.)

[vournikas]

AlfaJohn said:

People are confusing driving slowly with driving safely. The mindset seems to be that "I'm driving slowly, therefore I must be safe".

I'm not sure if it's an urban myth or not, but I do remember many years ago a poster on another forum reckoned that a woman had phoned in to the Jeremy Vine show and said something along the lines of, ".....well I don't see WHY I should use my indicators, because I NEVER break the speed limit".

Sounds plausible, if you ask me.

Anyway, on the subject of abjectly slow driving, the company has been carrying out a project in Minehead over the last four weeks which has involved two site visits for me in that time. fk me sideways. Are all drivers from North Somerset permanently sedated or something?? NSL would seem to be 30 max

[Hoofy]

WD39 said:

Pete317 said:

Hoofy said:

It's 30 for a reason!!!

That's sooooo last decade - nowadays it's Twenty's Plenty!

That's of course until they come up with a snappy soundbite for Ten!

'It's ten, but only for the men.'

'If your name is Ben you can't do more than ten.'

'Here we go again, the speed limit drops to ten.'

'For Audi and BMW drivers, it's ten, yes TEN.'

'Slow down then ,because it's a ten.'

'Fifty when you're nifty, fourty when you're naughty, thirty when you're dirty, twenty that is plenty, ten..
(ran out of rhymes.)

Stay off the Redbull!!

[Janesy B]

Pete317 said:

That's sooooo last decade - nowadays it's Twenty's Plenty!

That's of course until they come up with a snappy soundbite for Ten!

TEN is for MEN.

[Wills2]

Five is for life! (doesn't quite rhyme but that won't worry them)

[R8VXF]

Zero for hero... Cock, need to go faster than that.

[silverfoxcc]

WD39 said:

Pete317 said:

Hoofy said:

It's 30 for a reason!!!

That's sooooo last decade - nowadays it's Twenty's Plenty!

That's of course until they come up with a snappy soundbite for Ten!

'It's ten, but only for the men.'

'If your name is Ben you can't do more than ten.'

'Here we go again, the speed limit drops to ten.'

'For Audi and BMW drivers, it's ten, yes TEN.'

'Slow down then ,because it's a ten.'

'Fifty when you're nifty, fourty when you're naughty, thirty when you're dirty, twenty that is plenty, ten.... Is Zen

FTFY

[Toonshorty]

catman said:

Please tell me you're kidding?

Tim

Well, assuming there are otherwise no posted limits of course.

[fivepointnine]

vournikas said:

I'm not sure if it's an urban myth or not, but I do remember many years ago a poster on another forum reckoned that a woman had phoned in to the Jeremy Vine show and said something along the lines of, ".....well I don't see WHY I should use my indicators, because I NEVER break the speed limit".

Sounds plausible, if you ask me.

Anyway, on the subject of abjectly slow driving, the company has been carrying out a project in Minehead over the last four weeks which has involved two site visits for me in that time. fk me sideways. Are all drivers from North Somerset permanently sedated or something?? NSL would seem to be 30 max

I take that route some during the winter to some surf spots, it is a nightmare road of extremely slow drivers. The road is mostly wide open and very safe, no real excuse to drive very slow (and not a whole lot to see scenery wise until after Minehead). But yes, as a North Somerset resident I can confirm 90% of the drivers here are brain dead.

[karma mechanic]

With this thread in mind I was following a car this morning on the way to Winchester. Leaving the village of Hursley the 30 zone ends and NSL signs appear. The car in front speeded up slightly to about 35. I was itching to overtake but the bends and traffic the other way just didn't give me the opportunity. So I followed..

After a few minutes of somewhat tedious progress in the NSL a 50 sign appeared and the car promptly increased speed to 50. This brief respite doesn't last long, a 40 sign followed shortly and the car reduced speed again. Likewise on reaching the 30 on the approach to the city.

I really think that this driver was adhering to speed limits with some zeal, but it was only the ones with numbers that were being recognised.

[Pan Pan Pan]

The posted speed limits are low set, to enable the widest spectrum of road users to use the roads with what might be deemed a reasonable expectation of safety.
Unlike in the past, `most' modern cars can negotiate roads with large margins of designed in dynamic safety in terms of general handling, cornering, braking etc. Therefore the vehicle itself rarely represents the limiting factor in terms of safe speeds within the posted limits.
Therefore the whole point of using a motorized vehicle is to move from one point to another as fast, and comfortably as the posted limits, or road conditions allow. To do less than this is just downright perverse, especially if when doing so, a huge queue of other road users builds up behind the dawdling driver (who either through arrogance, and selfishness, inattention, lack of driving skill) chooses to travel at speeds either well below the posted limit, or at a (legal) speed that most of the surrounding road users wish to travel at.
Driving, like many things is a dynamic activity, which requires a certain level of aptitude skill, a responsibility to other road users around them, and physical capability.
If a driver does not posses these skills /qualities, and baulks other road users because of that, perhaps they should give serious consideration as to whether they should be in charge of a motorized vehicle on a public road at all.

[WD39]

silverfoxcc said:

WD39 said:

Pete317 said:

Hoofy said:

It's 30 for a reason!!!

That's sooooo last decade - nowadays it's Twenty's Plenty!

That's of course until they come up with a snappy soundbite for Ten!

'It's ten, but only for the men.'

'If your name is Ben you can't do more than ten.'

'Here we go again, the speed limit drops to ten.'

'For Audi and BMW drivers, it's ten, yes TEN.'

'Slow down then ,because it's a ten.'

'Fifty when you're nifty, fourty when you're naughty, thirty when you're dirty, twenty that is plenty, ten.... Is Zen

FTFY

Thank you. And me a published poet as well.

[zeDuffMan]

Members of the 40mph brigade are the bane of my commute. The problem is worst if I'm starting work later in the morning. Come 10am 95% of the people on the roads are people with nowhere to be (although it only takes 10% of road users to be part of the 40mph brigade to ruin everyone's day).

Some people don't see the point in overtaking with the reasoning being that they'll just catch up to you at the next junction anyway. Of course that's total bks. If you get through the green light rather than sitting at a red light you'll have saved yourself a couple of minutes waiting and then the risk of being stuck behind a lorry that pulls out into the road ahead of you with its own queue of traffic behind it. Multiplied by 10 sets of traffic lights/road works you can save yourself considerable time overtaking everything you can.

If people could drive properly it wouldn't be an issue at all. I feel like there should be minimum speed limits applied to the roads - and if you can't meet the minimum speed you should be required to pull over every one mile to let everyone past.

[GreenArrow]

I absolutely agree with most of this, but equally I am absolutely sick of driving out of my estate at 30 MPH through what is a built up area and being tailgated constantly whilst doing so. A lot of these tailgaters are in so called "drivers cars" and therefore I suspect a few post on here from time to time.... We often have a mobile safety camera down the road I am referring to, due to it being a problem rat run road, so I am actually doing a public service by sticking to the limit and preventing some of these numpties getting a speeding ticket...the ingratitude of some people!

[Johnnytheboy]

karma mechanic said:

With this thread in mind I was following a car this morning on the way to Winchester. Leaving the village of Hursley the 30 zone ends and NSL signs appear. The car in front speeded up slightly to about 35. I was itching to overtake but the bends and traffic the other way just didn't give me the opportunity. So I followed..

After a few minutes of somewhat tedious progress in the NSL a 50 sign appeared and the car promptly increased speed to 50. This brief respite doesn't last long, a 40 sign followed shortly and the car reduced speed again. Likewise on reaching the 30 on the approach to the city.

I really think that this driver was adhering to speed limits with some zeal, but it was only the ones with numbers that were being recognised.

I've noticed this too. Some drivers adhere exactly to lower limits, but higher limits don't get the same treatment.