Can we talk about the Austin Allegro VP

Can we talk about the Austin Allegro VP

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Northernlights

55 posts

186 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Had they taken the sports stripes off that Equipe thingyme, and pre-drilled holes where rust would appear, it could have been a lightweight special. If they had got Colin Chapman involved, it could be as valuable as a Lotus Cortina by now. Maybe.

J4CKO

41,469 posts

200 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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I love it that people keep these old things going, would hate for them to all dissapear, crap as a car but a lovely bit of nostalgia and I love to see them, lines of pristine Healeys and E Types are nice but they werent what most people had back then, most had an Allegro, Princess, Horizon, Cortina, Escort, Avenger etc etc.

An Allegro VP was a wealthy old lady from Tumbridge Wells type car, would love to know its history, the owners it had, especially when new, bet there are some really interesting stories, back then, wealthy folk didnt generally buy German Stuff or Range Rovers, Husband will have had a Rover or Jag, maybe even a Silver Shadow, excellent chariot for attending lunch and bridge games.


The_Burg

4,846 posts

214 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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There was a project on here many years back fitting a 2.7 V6 from a Rover 827.
Had a hunt but can't find it, seem to recollect it was owned by the bloke form 5th Gear TV show?

GSE

2,339 posts

239 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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For some reason I found myself watching a program about the Allegro on youtube recently. The original design looked quite good, but the project suffered from the usual problems of corporate incompetence, meddling and mis management, against the backdrop of a terminally ill car workforce and unions (Red robbo!) It ended up being a parts bin bodge up. It was supposed to have a new engine and low slung body bit they ended up putting the ancient a series engine in it (which was too tall) and didn't they bother with the rapidly emerging popular hatchback configuration, but stuck with a bootlid. It ended up looking like a squatting toad. It was supposed to be as good as anything from Europe but I think that less that 2000 were exported in total. Even the designer of it walked away at the end of the tv program and didn't try to defend it. No I've never owned one, and would never want too, but it is nice seeing a survivor on the roads now and again, even if it is a completely crap car! Did they have square steering wheels??





Edited by GSE on Sunday 7th February 12:25

s m

23,218 posts

203 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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williamp said:
Shame they went down the luxury route. If they had gone sporty with it, with some tasty 14" alloys, low profile tyres and claled it something like s-line or M-sport they would have done much better.
That's the role the 1750 SS ( Sports Special ) filled

bobtail4x4

3,715 posts

109 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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GSE said:
For some reason I found myself watching a program about the Allegro on youtube recently. The original design looked quite good, but the project suffered from the usual problems of corporate incompetence, meddling and mis management, against the backdrop of a terminally ill car workforce and unions (Red robbo!) It ended up being a parts bin bodge up. It was supposed to have a new engine and low slung body bit they ended up putting the ancient a series engine in it (which was too tall) and didn't they bother with the rapidly emerging popular hatchback configuration, but stuck with a bootlid. It ended up looking like a squatting toad. It was supposed to be as good as anything from Europe but I think that less that 2000 were exported in total. Even the designer of it walked away at the end of the tv program and didn't try to defend it. No I've never owned one, and would never want too, but it is nice seeing a survivor on the roads now and again, even if it is a completely crap car! Did they have square steering wheels??





Edited by GSE on Sunday 7th February 12:25
that was the James May prog,
I recall when NEW there was 27 different ways for water to get into the boot.

s m

23,218 posts

203 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Welshbeef said:
marmitemania said:
I give you the Allegro Equipe 0-70 10 seconds sports graphics and twin carb!

0-70 in 10 seconds is for the time respectable - on par with a Maestro GTI or 205 GTI
0-70 in 10 seconds? Where do those figures come from?

The 1750 Sport/Sport Specials weren't anywhere near that?

dbdb

4,319 posts

173 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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I like the Allegro as a sort of old and nostalgic curiosity. And such an optimistic name! I don't think they're ugly. Despite what most PHers seem to believe, the Allegro suffered less from rust than the average car back then.

This one amused me!


BarbaricAvatar

1,416 posts

148 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Still don't want one?



Nope, nor i.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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BarbaricAvatar said:
Still don't want one?



Nope, nor i.
<scratches head>
But FWD...

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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dbdb said:
I like the Allegro as a sort of old and nostalgic curiosity. And such an optimistic name! I don't think they're ugly. Despite what most PHers seem to believe, the Allegro suffered less from rust than the average car back then.

This one amused me!

snigger at that grille.

And yes, I don't know why everyone remembers the Allegro as being rusty. They were pretty rust-resistant for the time.

Not many people seem to agree with me but I think it's better looking than the mk1 Golf. That's more a criticism of the styling of the Golf than an endorsement of the Allegro though. I like the mk3 Golf styling but I've always thought 1 and 2 were awful things to look at.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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The Vanden Plas were terrible; by the time they came out they didn't even have the legendary USP of the Allegro Quartic steering wheel to help sell them hehe (for younger readers, yes the British Leyland years were so grim and bereft of creative spark that there was actually a nadir point when BL thought a square steering wheel would help sell their product)

A mate had a VDP Allegro back when you could buy a sound one for about 200 quid tops. I have two overriding memories of it; one was him driving with his head out of the window because the wiper motor had seized solid in the pissing rain on the way to Brixton Academy one night. It's hard to enjoy a gig when you have severe frostbite of the face. The second is of being profoundly ill in the back on the way back from a particularly lurid party (though I blame the squidgy suspension as much as the gin). I thought I'd do the decent thing and be sick into the pickernick table to make it easier to clean up. Didn't work; they've just got an open back so all it did was channel it down the back of the seat... although it did funnel a surprising amount into my boots so I suppose it worked in a way

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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stephen300o said:
"And when we fondly look back at the Austin Allegro, then we know that we have truly hit a bad spell"

:Abraham Lincoln
Ain't that the truth!

"You put lipstick on a pig ... it's still a pig".

"You can't polish a turd ... but you can roll it in glitter"

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Worth preserving but only as a demonstration of why 70s buyers took 1 look at it then bought a Datsun.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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At least they never tried to spoil the Mini with tacky additions.....


EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Another reason to shop eleswhere

vixen1700

22,850 posts

270 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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http://www.sherwoodrestorations.co.uk/portfolio/pr...

If I wanted leather and walnut on a small scale, I'd go for this rather than the Allegro every time.

In fact at £3495, that looks a lovely little thing. smile

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Anything from that BL era is great fun if only to annoy the classic car snobs.

rallycross

12,782 posts

237 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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I had one of these in blue with leather and jolly nice wooden picnic tables.

It belonged to a neighbour and when it failed its MOT (for various small jobs plus some welding) he offered it to me for £50. After a bit of haggling we agreed on the princely sum of £35!.

I still think I paid too much for it !

As with all the other All-agro's I've had it was rubbish in every respect.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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rallycross said:
As with all the other All-agro's I've had it was rubbish in every respect.
Surely you'd have realised this after just one, maybe two at a push, but it sounds like you've had more. Do you really hate yourself that much? hehe