M135i to C63 AMG (hopefully) - PCP FINANCE QUESTION

M135i to C63 AMG (hopefully) - PCP FINANCE QUESTION

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DeltaTango

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381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Jim AK said:
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This is a bloody good call & I would have thought your prospective buyers in that area would absolutely love your 'Green credentials Dahhhling'

Also just remembered we rent a parking space in Islington to an agent with an i3, we had to organise somewhere for him to plug it in!

(Still think the XJR is where it's at tho laughlaughlaugh)
Yes, technically I am the sort who would suit an EV, or some diesel blob mobile. However, I only wish to insure and run one car. I don't have space to park more than one car. Plus I would rather sprinkle myself in salt and pepper and stroll up to a pride of hungry lions than drive an EV, or an eco diesel (I endured a golf bluemotion for 3 years, and a Civic hybrid before that).

It's therefore not a work tool, it's my only car. I spend over 3 hrs per day in the car so I want to be happy.

Other people's view of my vehicle is not a consideration (threads discussing which V8 to buy notwithstanding).

I also can't claim back mileage, you either take the company car you are given, or you take the pitiful allowance.

1Addicted

693 posts

121 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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As a C63 owner myself, let me tell you that although you'll never get bored of it, or feel uncomfortable or unhappy sitting in it for prolonged periods, running that engine in mind numbing London traffic for 3hrs per day is going to p155 you off from a fuel standpoint.

On a good run, it's pleasantly economical for its size but town driving, and the fact you find yourself being heavy footed (for noise purposes) for the short distance that you can move at one time in London absolutely drinks fuel faster than it can be refined.

The car is absolutely wonderful, and I can't see that I'll sell mine for a long while but, a city car it's not, and I feel blessed that I can use mine in the wonderful countryside that is on my doorstep where 90% of miles are enjoyable.

Something to think about, especially when you're planning to lock yourself into a finance deal. You'd be better off saving a few £k yourself, then financing the rest via personal loan but, if I read right and you are looking to buy a house, cars should come second and my advice would be to have that out of the way first.

Edited by 1Addicted on Wednesday 10th February 10:39

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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DeltaTango said:
I have £3,800 (ish) left until the 'halfway' point, so 10 months (based on 4.9% interest on a £31,500 purchase price - got a smashing discount of course). I might be doing that wrong and therefore delusional.
The purchase price of the car is totally irrelevant, what matters is how much you borrowed from the finance company.

E.g. (Totally making up numbers)

- Purchase Price £31,500
- Deposit paid £5,000
- Amount Borrowed £26,500
- Total Interest Owed on the above £4,000
- Various Fees £500

- Total Amount Repayable to the finance company £31,000 (26,500 + 4,000 + 500)

- Amount to be repaid before voluntary termination - £15,500

So if you were repaying say £500pm it would take you 31 months from the start of the agreement before you would be eligible for voluntary termination.

This is my understanding of voluntary termination anyway.

mark_m135

40 posts

110 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I'm considering making the same move. My car is only something that I use a weekends but needs to have some practical side to it for shopping, breaks away and the odd other duty as decided by the GF (including trips to collect things like mirrors from John Lewis). I love the idea of a big V8 noise for when I want to hoon around on country lanes, but something comfortable and reasonable for long motorway cruises (anything up to 700miles over to the south of france) so I'm not stopping all the time.

I'm not sure the C63 would be good for that latter part, what're they like on a motorway cruise? Also, what is the new version like for the same? I'd prefer the 6.2l but the new one may be an option as the gf would accept that more than a 6+l engine (she's a bit 'eco' at times).

P.S sorry to hijack the thread

DeltaTango

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381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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1Addicted said:
As a C63 owner myself, let me tell you that although you'll never get bored of it, or feel uncomfortable or unhappy sitting in it for prolonged periods, running that engine in mind numbing London traffic for 3hrs per day is going to p155 you off from a fuel standpoint.

On a good run, it's pleasantly economical for its size but town driving, and the fact you find yourself being heavy footed (for noise purposes) for the short distance that you can move at one time in London absolutely drinks fuel faster than it can be refined.

The car is absolutely wonderful, and I can't see that I'll sell mine for a long while but, a city car it's not, and I feel blessed that I can use mine in the wonderful countryside that is on my doorstep where 90% of miles are enjoyable.

Something to think about, especially when you're planning to lock yourself into a finance deal. You'd be better off saving a few £k yourself, then financing the rest via personal loan but, if I read right and you are looking to buy a house, cars should come second and my advice would be to have that out of the way first.

Edited by 1Addicted on Wednesday 10th February 10:39
All constructive. I don't drive around london in traffic, just in and out. I live in the countryside so do get the opportunity to enjoy a car properly.

And yes, as per my previous post, my thinking is now leaning towards handing car back at this mythical halfway point, buying cheapish stop gap V8 something or other, then work towards a more long term solution.

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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Haha! I currently spend £50 per week on fuel (I average 28mpg). I'm guessing with a C63 that would increase to £75 per week, maybe £90. Hardly devastating.

It's not something that would worry me. I ran my '94 E320 coupe for a few months and that only got 300 miles from a 70 litre tank, when fuel was 25% more expensive. It never really bothered me, had that warm fuzzy feeling which more than compensated.

Again, sadly, a second car is not an option or this would be a very different thread.


Edited by DeltaTango on Wednesday 10th February 13:22

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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skahigh said:
DeltaTango said:
I have £3,800 (ish) left until the 'halfway' point, so 10 months (based on 4.9% interest on a £31,500 purchase price - got a smashing discount of course). I might be doing that wrong and therefore delusional.
The purchase price of the car is totally irrelevant, what matters is how much you borrowed from the finance company.

E.g. (Totally making up numbers)

- Purchase Price £31,500
- Deposit paid £5,000
- Amount Borrowed £26,500
- Total Interest Owed on the above £4,000
- Various Fees £500

- Total Amount Repayable to the finance company £31,000 (26,500 + 4,000 + 500)

- Amount to be repaid before voluntary termination - £15,500

So if you were repaying say £500pm it would take you 31 months from the start of the agreement before you would be eligible for voluntary termination.

This is my understanding of voluntary termination anyway.
I'm sure you know far better than I. I am yet to ask BMW this question. I probably should really shouldn't I. Based on your working above I'm only a month or so out with my guess of 10 months till halfway.

podpod

135 posts

115 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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there no point to this thread until you get the finance information..

this thread sums up why i am going down the lease route for my next daily car... and cash deal on (cheap) wkd toy

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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I don't know what planet you live on, but here, on Earth, there are 4.54 litres in a gallon biggrin

On a slightly more serious note, if my boss tried to dictate what I could and couldn't drive, I'd pretty swiftly be telling him to shove his job up his arse, especially if, with respect, I worked in a plentiful and easily accessible profession.
His objections don't even make sense. Anyone who knows cars will respect a man with a Monaro, those who don't won't know or care whether it's a fire-breathing V8 or a Micra (which, oddly, is the car driven by both the estate agents with whom I have dealt recently).

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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podpod said:
there no point to this thread until you get the finance information..

this thread sums up why i am going down the lease route for my next daily car... and cash deal on (cheap) wkd toy
As above, I have approx £4k in finance to pay off before 'halfway' handback point. So 10-12 monthly payments.

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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ferrariF50lover said:
anonymous said:
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I don't know what planet you live on, but here, on Earth, there are 4.54 litres in a gallon biggrin

On a slightly more serious note, if my boss tried to dictate what I could and couldn't drive, I'd pretty swiftly be telling him to shove his job up his arse, especially if, with respect, I worked in a plentiful and easily accessible profession.
His objections don't even make sense. Anyone who knows cars will respect a man with a Monaro, those who don't won't know or care whether it's a fire-breathing V8 or a Micra (which, oddly, is the car driven by both the estate agents with whom I have dealt recently).
Good jobs at top firms aren't plentiful or accesible, there are plenty of rubbish jobs available at firms which are really struggling in the currently diffcult marketplace. I'm in a very fortunate position where I am, both in terms of earnings and future prospects. Also, the vast majority of firms would point blank refuse a request to use anything other than the allotted company vehicle. The concept of paying company car tax for something horrid is offensive to me.

Most weeks I do 180 work miles, plus say 50-100 personal miles. The rest of my mileage is long distance, travelling to see my best mate up in Lincolnshire and driving to karting events around the country.

Money does of course matter, but I don't mind spending it on fuel for an interesting car. It's the same as eating at a nice restaurant as far as I'm concerned.

I was renting in London for 8 years until recently, temporarily rent free with family until I buy a place, which will conveniently be around the time I can hand my current car back.

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Thread Update.

I have just followed through on the threat to dump the M135i. And the replacement is.........

A minty X308 Jaguar XJR. Picking it up this weekend. Delighted.

giblet

8,849 posts

177 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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YES! Good choice, I still miss mine. Despite having owned quicker cars since there is just something about the X308 R

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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DeltaTango said:
Thread Update.

I have just followed through on the threat to dump the M135i. And the replacement is.........

A minty X308 Jaguar XJR. Picking it up this weekend. Delighted.
I hate you!!

Still hanker after an 'R' Enjoy.

_Neal_

2,663 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Nice work OP, great choice. Aftermarket exhaust too, presumably? Look forward to pics!

DeltaTango

Original Poster:

381 posts

123 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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_Neal_ said:
Nice work OP, great choice. Aftermarket exhaust too, presumably? Look forward to pics!
No exhaust planned just yet. I shall of course look into it. I am having the lower supercharger pulley changed prior to collection though cool