Selling a Car to USA buyer

Selling a Car to USA buyer

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Autolycus

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67 posts

143 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I have a buyer from the USA interested in buying a Land Rover from me. I am aware of some of the scams, but he would want to pay by Paypal, and would cover my fees to receive the money as he says it's still cheaper for him than using a wire transfer.

I can see a problem with Paypal's receiving limits and monthly payout limits, but apart from that, what snags might there be? The buyer appears to have an established business over there, but is on holiday in the UK at present. I'll meet him, and he's not expecting to drive it away immediately.

What snags may I have missed, and are there better ways of his paying me - transfer agents, western union, whatever? I don't know how a US citizen would set about picking up a few £k in cash in the UK.

What experience do others have of such an arrangement and payment methods?

I'm fine with the rest of the paperwork side of it.

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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no way to paypal

if he can meet then why not hand over a fist full of cash


Shiv_P

2,745 posts

105 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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No no no no no

He will be able to charge back paypal

Lazadude

1,732 posts

161 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Stolen paypal account, not part of their buying/selling guarantee, so they just cancel/reverse the transaction and you're left with no car and no money.

Why can't he bank transfer? Any UK bank will give you the BIC code and account details in order to do a CHAPS payment which will work overseas?

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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No protection for car sales with Paypal (seller or buyer).
Possibility of a hacked account.
Possibility that this is a precursor to a Paypal escrow scam.
Fees.



fivepointnine

708 posts

114 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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If he is here anyway, there is no reason he should not be able to hand over cash or at the minimum arrange a bank to bank wire transfer. Also unless the vehicle is a '91 or older it is illegal for him to import it back into the US.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Shiv_P said:
No no no no no

He will be able to charge back paypal
This ^^

Ean218

1,965 posts

250 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Autolycus said:
I have a buyer from the USA interested in buying a Land Rover from me. I am aware of some of the scams, but he would want to pay by Paypal, and would cover my fees to receive the money as he says it's still cheaper for him than using a wire transfer.
Not even remotely true, unless he doesn't actually have, a.) A bank account, b) Any money.

Autolycus said:
I don't know how a US citizen would set about picking up a few £k in cash in the UK.
Same way as you would in the US.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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NO just no

In case you are unsure: NO


foxsasha

1,417 posts

135 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Why not ask PayPal?

Vaud

50,445 posts

155 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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fivepointnine said:
If he is here anyway, there is no reason he should not be able to hand over cash or at the minimum arrange a bank to bank wire transfer. Also unless the vehicle is a '91 or older it is illegal for him to import it back into the US.
Indeed. Comprehensive guidance here:

http://eastcoastrover.com/imports.html

3xpendable

230 posts

110 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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fivepointnine said:
If he is here anyway, there is no reason he should not be able to hand over cash or at the minimum arrange a bank to bank wire transfer. Also unless the vehicle is a '91 or older it is illegal for him to import it back into the US.
Just to clarify, I think you mean '91 or YOUNGER.

so called

9,085 posts

209 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Lazadude said:
Stolen paypal account, not part of their buying/selling guarantee, so they just cancel/reverse the transaction and you're left with no car and no money.

Why can't he bank transfer? Any UK bank will give you the BIC code and account details in order to do a CHAPS payment which will work overseas?
I pay lots of international stuff this way.
Regardless of monetary value, it's a £9'50 charge so I guess he would pay about $12,-
Cheep and fast.

Just to add that I bought my last car this way.
Quasi international as I bought it darn sarf and brough it up t'Chesiiire

Edited by so called on Monday 8th February 15:10

fivepointnine

708 posts

114 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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3xpendable said:
Just to clarify, I think you mean '91 or YOUNGER.
No, needs to be older than a '91 model year. The US has a 25 year import rule, as in you cannot import any vehicle that was not originally sold in the US that is any newer than the 1991 model year.

SuperVM

1,098 posts

161 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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fivepointnine said:
3xpendable said:
Just to clarify, I think you mean '91 or YOUNGER.
No, needs to be older than a '91 model year. The US has a 25 year import rule, as in you cannot import any vehicle that was not originally sold in the US that is any newer than the 1991 model year.
Hence all the excitement when the R32 GTR finally met import requirements.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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3xpendable said:
fivepointnine said:
If he is here anyway, there is no reason he should not be able to hand over cash or at the minimum arrange a bank to bank wire transfer. Also unless the vehicle is a '91 or older it is illegal for him to import it back into the US.
Just to clarify, I think you mean '91 or YOUNGER.
No, he means older.

1991 or before (25yo+) - OK to import.
1992 or more recent (<25yo) - potentially serious import problems.

soad

32,890 posts

176 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Offer discount for a cash payment...

V8RX7

26,837 posts

263 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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foxsasha said:
Why not ask PayPal?
laughrofllaugh

I'm guessing you've never used Paypal.

They will say it's safe - right up until the point they take the money back, then you'll be left calling idiots in far flung countries with poor grasp of English let alone reality and get no help whatsoever.


foxsasha

1,417 posts

135 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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V8RX7 said:
laughrofllaugh

I'm guessing you've never used Paypal.

They will say it's safe - right up until the point they take the money back, then you'll be left calling idiots in far flung countries with poor grasp of English let alone reality and get no help whatsoever.
I put a reasonable amount of money through PayPal, never had any significant issues with their customer service. Spoken to them on a number of occasions and had satisfactory results. Not everyone is well versed with bank transfers, might be a pertly legitimate reason why the buyer wants to pay by PayPal. It would be interesting to see what PayPal said.

V8RX7

26,837 posts

263 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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foxsasha said:
V8RX7 said:
laughrofllaugh

I'm guessing you've never used Paypal.

They will say it's safe - right up until the point they take the money back, then you'll be left calling idiots in far flung countries with poor grasp of English let alone reality and get no help whatsoever.
I put a reasonable amount of money through PayPal, never had any significant issues with their customer service. Spoken to them on a number of occasions and had satisfactory results. Not everyone is well versed with bank transfers, might be a pertly legitimate reason why the buyer wants to pay by PayPal. It would be interesting to see what PayPal said.
Google "Paypal Chargeback"

Or better still post up your site, I'll buy some things and do a chargeback and you can post up how that works out.