Niche versions which outlived the base car
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S0 What said:
The Mk4 escort cab stayed in production untill a K reg(ish) whilst Ford made the Mk5 escort stiff enough to make a cab out of it (2-3 years extra).
The Mk4 cortina estate carried on for the full Mk5 production run with Mk5 front end and rear bumper(3 years extra).
The cortina Mk5 carried on as the P100 until an E reg alongside the sierra untill ford made a sierra version (5 years extra).
The Mk6 escort van carried on till a 52 plate (ish) until Ford made the connect (3-4 years extra).
You obv get late sold vehicals like A/B/C reg cortinas, M reg sierras and 51 plate escorts but production is a differant issue.
They did the same with the Mk 2 Escort van and estate. If you look you can see that the nose gradually morphs into the square edged version but from the windscreen back its pure Mk 1. The Mk4 cortina estate carried on for the full Mk5 production run with Mk5 front end and rear bumper(3 years extra).
The cortina Mk5 carried on as the P100 until an E reg alongside the sierra untill ford made a sierra version (5 years extra).
The Mk6 escort van carried on till a 52 plate (ish) until Ford made the connect (3-4 years extra).
You obv get late sold vehicals like A/B/C reg cortinas, M reg sierras and 51 plate escorts but production is a differant issue.
As well as the MK3 Cabriolet, the MK3 Golf Estate carried on for a year or so after the MK4 was launched until the new MK4 Estate arrived in 1999, although it didn't get the MK4 front or the interior upgrades that the Cabriolet did.
Also, the Rover 200 Coupé, Cabriolet and 400 Tourer continued until 1998 alongside the new 400 which came out in early 1995.
Also, the Rover 200 Coupé, Cabriolet and 400 Tourer continued until 1998 alongside the new 400 which came out in early 1995.
gazzarose said:
I think the Escort van carried on for a fair few years after the Escort turned into the Focus.
I remember a pal of mine had a hired Escort van on a 51 reg, must have been one of the last.The Mk5 Astravan outlived its car variants, as did the Peugeot 305 van and 504 pickup.
njd27 said:
There were a bunch of Austin Maestros which were bought back from Bulgaria around 1999/2000 when UK production originally stopped in 1994.
I'm not sure if this qualifies, but the Met Police ordered a good number of Rover SD1 3500's when the end of production was announced, and placed them in storage.
As existing patrol cars reached the end of their service life, a car was taken out of storage, and fitted up with lights, livery, radios etc.
As an aside I wonder if anyone knows how many SD1s the Met actually bought and had in storage?
Would the Ferrari 458 Speciale count, as the model has been superseded by the 488, yet is still advertised on Ferraris own website to configure, order and buy?
As existing patrol cars reached the end of their service life, a car was taken out of storage, and fitted up with lights, livery, radios etc.
As an aside I wonder if anyone knows how many SD1s the Met actually bought and had in storage?
Would the Ferrari 458 Speciale count, as the model has been superseded by the 488, yet is still advertised on Ferraris own website to configure, order and buy?
Surely the obvious one (two actually) is the sit-up-&-beg Anglia that continued as the bargain basement Popular when the 100e Anglia came in, which in it's turn became the Pop when the 105e Anglia (with the reversed rear window) was made. I have seen a photo of a pre-production Mk1 Escort badged "Anglia" so perhaps the plan was to do it again at some stage?
Edited by Fury1630 on Wednesday 10th February 12:29
njd27 said:
There were a bunch of Austin Maestros which were bought back from Bulgaria around 1999/2000 when UK production originally stopped in 1994.
I also remember before this, they were still on general sale at M Reg in limited specs, though I wonder if this was just the ones they couldn't flog from a big field where they kept them all. Montego's seemed to stop earlier though the Countryman soldiered on for longer. Can anyone remember the logic here - I would have said the Rover 200/400 that came out in 1990 (G) replaced the Maestro, but the Rover 200 seemed to replace a previous Rover 200. It all seems a bit random and confused to me.
VolvoMariner said:
njd27 said:
There were a bunch of Austin Maestros which were bought back from Bulgaria around 1999/2000 when UK production originally stopped in 1994.
I also remember before this, they were still on general sale at M Reg in limited specs, though I wonder if this was just the ones they couldn't flog from a big field where they kept them all. Montego's seemed to stop earlier though the Countryman soldiered on for longer. Can anyone remember the logic here - I would have said the Rover 200/400 that came out in 1990 (G) replaced the Maestro, but the Rover 200 seemed to replace a previous Rover 200. It all seems a bit random and confused to me.
Fury1630 said:
Surely the obvious one (two actually) is the sit-up-&-beg Anglia that continued as the bargain basement Popular when the 100e Anglia came in, which in it's turn became the Pop when the 105e Anglia (with the reversed rear window) was made. I have seen a photo of a pre-production Mk1 Escort badged "Anglia" so perhaps the plan was to do it again at some stage?
Ancient history indeed!BT vans based on a sixties viva 66 staggered into 83, which is a 17 yr overshoot.
This wins the thread, AICMFP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Viva
Main article: Bedford HA
A van version was marketed as the Bedford HA and was offered in 6 cwt, 8 cwt and, from 1972, 10 cwt variants.[6] It differed from the saloon in being taller, and thousands were bought by the GPO (later British Telecom), their bright yellow HA vans becoming a common sight. The HA Van was eventually supplanted by the Chevanne, but because of fleet orders, particularly from British Telecom, British Rail and the Post Office, the HA van remained in production, ultimately using the later HC Viva's engine and gearbox, all the way through to 1983.
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