Beer daan Saaf

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Ollie_M

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2,268 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Having recently moved from the North, Yorkshire in fact, I've come to realise that I've taken for granted the Yorkshire pedigree for not only producing, but serving such fine ales as repeatedly now I've ventured into a public house and upon requesting a native ale was served what can only be resemble dishwater and lacked the smooth velvety texture that I am accustomed too. Now it's not the down to the place I frequent before you say anything.

It was only whilst out having a few 'cheeky' ones the other day that I noticed that they don't use sprinkler noddles on the hand pull beers!!!. Does anyone know why? or has experienced the difference also? Do those from the south think the northern ( proper) beer tastes strange to them?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

151 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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You northerners and your filthy smoothflow beer engine muck!

Path! My disdain for your liquid filth is legion!

Ahem...I mean, I disagree

Smiler.

11,752 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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It's the beverage equivalent of putting gravy on chips. Who knows why.

A lot of Northern beers & ales are creamy, Boddingtons was a great example, Hydes also.

There's a lot of debate as to the use of sparklers in the real ale fraternity. Personally, I prefer a bit of froth but enjoy everything that proper beer & ale has to offer.

You could do worse than check out the Cask Marque site/app & the Good Beer Guide. Remember, the CAMRA doesn't lie.

Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Another Yorkshireman in the Southern badlands here (though have technically been away from the North longer than I was there now).

Get down to the Market Porter in Borough Market and have a pint of Sussex Best. Lovely pint.

gregd

1,640 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I've been in southern shandyland 30 years now and still have this view.. I miss the creamier northern ales to such a point that I end up drinking lager half the time so as not to be disappointed. The beardy hipster craft beer boom of recent years probably improves things somewhat but it's still a bit of a crapshoot ordering a pint of creamy northern style beer in the south..

dmitsi

3,583 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Depends how far south you are, but there are plenty of very good beers around Sussex

Long Man, Gun, Dark Star, Langham, 360, Hepworth. Arundel, Harveys... These brewers make some of the best beers, plenty of other brewers with some guff, but you'd be unlucky to go wrong with these. I'd rate Longman and Gun at the top, with Dark Star very close for some more interesting flavours.

soad

32,825 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Ollie_M said:
It was only whilst out having a few 'cheeky' ones the other day that I noticed that they don't use sprinkler noddles on the hand pull beers!!!. Does anyone know why? or has experienced the difference also? Do those from the south think the northern ( proper) beer tastes strange to them?
Southern Landlords have the inherent belief that sparklers are the spawn of Satan himself!

The "flat" London pint is a relatively recent and unwelcome addition to beer drinking...

toon10

6,140 posts

156 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I used to moan about this when I went doon sooth but these days I drink more craft beers and if you know where to look, there are good places to get a decent Belgium tipple North and South.

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

150 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I am a Suvverner froo and froo, but embarked upon my beer drinking career properly whilst at university oop norf. I worked in a bijou local tavern up there and learnt how to serve beer with proper sparklers, our best selling ale was Theakstons XB. Heaven.

Since moving back souf over 20 years ago, I still miss beer served properly. And I'm convinced it's all down to the lack of sparklers down here. In fact, I might get one to keep in my pocket and hand it to bar staff when ordering. Their little Australian faces will be a picture.

There are many very tasty suvvern beers, but if only they'd pull it through a sparkler.

Ollie_M

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2,268 posts

105 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Murph7355 said:
Another Yorkshireman in the Southern badlands here (though have technically been away from the North longer than I was there now).

Get down to the Market Porter in Borough Market and have a pint of Sussex Best. Lovely pint.
On your recommendation I shall frequent this place to which you mention. Could we have a Sunday Service there?smile

I'm a fan of the northern sprinkler howeverI remember going to one of the remotest pub i've ever been to up'in Dales and they had a cask laid on the floor from which they filled the glasses. It was almost Prehistoric. I was going to stay for another they say everyone in there had 6 fingers...... including the dog in front of the fire!!

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I have had a pint in Yorkshire and it was suitable only for putting on your chips! Vinegar!

But...

I have had a pint in Hampshire that was so cloudy it was like a London smog from 1952 - clenched teeth needed to filter out the lumps.

And I had a pint once in Scotland and the glass smelled like a lavatory - couldn't drink the beer!

Timothy Taylor's Landlord is a lovely ale as is Harvey's Sussex Bitter. Celebrate the the variety and don't fret about the presentation. Oh and if in the Thames Valley do try anything from Rebellion (except the mild, obviously) or Chiltern Ales from Aylesbury.

Cheers! drink

Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Ollie_M said:
On your recommendation I shall frequent this place to which you mention. Could we have a Sunday Service there?smile

I'm a fan of the northern sprinkler howeverI remember going to one of the remotest pub i've ever been to up'in Dales and they had a cask laid on the floor from which they filled the glasses. It was almost Prehistoric. I was going to stay for another they say everyone in there had 6 fingers...... including the dog in front of the fire!!
I'd certainly be up for helping you nail some Sussex Best (Harvey's... That others are noting) on a Tues-Thurs evening.

Sadly family life saw me move out to the sticks (where there are quite a few pubs with 6 fingered folk with webbed feet) so weekend beers in The Big Smoke are very rare now.

There are some cracking places to eat around Borough Market too. Though I'm still mostly of the view that eatin's cheatin'!

vournikas

11,682 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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My first pint of real ale was at The Prince of Wales at Kenfig Hill near Porthcawl back in 1986. Back then, the pub was a real throwback to older times, with a men-only snug and beer served straight from the barrels that sat on large slates.

The beer was Wadworth 6X, and I could not believe that beer could taste that good. Even without a head, it was full of natural (but gentle) fizz and bursted with flavour.

Ever since then, I've always asked for my ales to be poured without a "sparkler" as the devices - for me - kill the flavour. Luckily, my haunt of choice here in Telford is run by a landlord of the same mind, and was the first in Telford to gain Cask Marque accreditation.

tomtom

4,223 posts

229 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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On the subject of London pubs that serve ale well, The Wenlock Arms in Islington (really it's just off City Road) is a good example of a proper boozer serving proper beer properly.

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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tomtom said:
On the subject of London pubs that serve ale well, The Wenlock Arms in Islington (really it's just off City Road) is a good example of a proper boozer serving proper beer properly.
I liked 'The Bishop's Finger' in West Smithfield when visiting a supplier across the road. A while ago though...

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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The Harp in Covent Garden is a good pub. It got taken over by Fullers last year but still does about 5/6 different ales.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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motco said:
I liked 'The Bishop's Finger' in West Smithfield when visiting a supplier across the road. A while ago though...
There's a blast from the past, I've spent many an hour in that place.

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
motco said:
I liked 'The Bishop's Finger' in West Smithfield when visiting a supplier across the road. A while ago though...
There's a blast from the past, I've spent many an hour in that place.
Is it still there? Shepherd Neame IIRC

ETA it seems so:- Bisop's Finger

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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motco said:
MarshPhantom said:
motco said:
I liked 'The Bishop's Finger' in West Smithfield when visiting a supplier across the road. A while ago though...
There's a blast from the past, I've spent many an hour in that place.
Is it still there? Shepherd Neame IIRC

ETA it seems so:- Bisop's Finger
Good news, a change of jobs means I've not been over that way for years.

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
motco said:
MarshPhantom said:
motco said:
I liked 'The Bishop's Finger' in West Smithfield when visiting a supplier across the road. A while ago though...
There's a blast from the past, I've spent many an hour in that place.
Is it still there? Shepherd Neame IIRC

ETA it seems so:- Bisop's Finger
Good news, a change of jobs means I've not been over that way for years.
No, nor I. Used a draughtsman there - he had a little place on the opposite side of Smithfield. Sadly, the poor sod died of cancer in his fifties... frown