RE: Skoda Octavia vRS Revo Technik: Driven

[Krikkit]

James Drake said:

We did, and they said this:

"Our stance is that we don’t/can’t offer a warranty on factory parts, and any customer looking to add this much more power to their vehicle does so in the knowledge that putting stress/increasing load on standard components carries an element of risk. We recommend flashing the vehicle to stock (removes all traces) before a dealer visit to avoid any warranty issues, although it would be tricky in this extreme case due to the non-standard turbo. In addition we try to ensure all of our upgrades are able to work within the limits of the factory components and ensure that we thoroughly test the complete package before it is released to the public. This R&D process doesn't just take place in the UK but throughout our global dealer network in regions whereby conditions and driving style are significantly more extreme than those seen in the UK. And then we add further head room on top of that to ensure longevity. As an example we have been beating the hell out of this particular set up for over 12 months, the only failure so far is 3 sets of front tyres!"

Alucidnation said:

From what i understand, is that VAG can now trace the maps etc in the cars, so even if you revert it back to standard, it leaves a flag on the system.

You'd have to be a pretty massive throbber to mod a car to double its stock output then put in a warranty claim for the powertrain.

[epom]

First thing I did was go straight onto their website to check out the wheels, any pics of the car side on to show the wheels ?? Shame though it seems they only come in 18'

[SuperchargedVR6]

Mikeeb said:

Amazed they didn't go to Quaife to sort out the LSD problem. May not be as clever as the one in the VRS230 that's available now, but miles better than an open one.

Believe me, a torsen diff from Quaife brings very little to a 400hp FWD party. It's amusing in a ridiculous tyre scrabbling way though, and once rolling, the midrange thump will surprise a lot of people who assume it's just another taxi.

[neelyp]

epom said:

First thing I did was go straight onto their website to check out the wheels, any pics of the car side on to show the wheels ?? Shame though it seems they only come in 18'

Think you'll find they only come in 19"
http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/wheels/...

[Alucidnation]

Krikkit said:

James Drake said:

We did, and they said this:

"Our stance is that we don’t/can’t offer a warranty on factory parts, and any customer looking to add this much more power to their vehicle does so in the knowledge that putting stress/increasing load on standard components carries an element of risk. We recommend flashing the vehicle to stock (removes all traces) before a dealer visit to avoid any warranty issues, although it would be tricky in this extreme case due to the non-standard turbo. In addition we try to ensure all of our upgrades are able to work within the limits of the factory components and ensure that we thoroughly test the complete package before it is released to the public. This R&D process doesn't just take place in the UK but throughout our global dealer network in regions whereby conditions and driving style are significantly more extreme than those seen in the UK. And then we add further head room on top of that to ensure longevity. As an example we have been beating the hell out of this particular set up for over 12 months, the only failure so far is 3 sets of front tyres!"

Alucidnation said:

From what i understand, is that VAG can now trace the maps etc in the cars, so even if you revert it back to standard, it leaves a flag on the system.

You'd have to be a pretty massive throbber to mod a car to double its stock output then put in a warranty claim for the powertrain.

Agreed, however, i was pointing out that in most cases, flashing back to stock does not remove all traces.

[kambites]

Surely putting the original map back on the car then claiming on the warranty would be fraud anyway?

[helix402]

I reckon those pesky "Revo" stickers would be a giveaway.

[James Drake]

helix402 said:

I reckon those pesky "Revo" stickers would be a giveaway.

They'd be the very first thing to go if I owned that car... followed by the badges. as is noted earlier on in the thread, street sleepers have got a bit to bling of late.

[tankplanker]

Golf R will make ~450 BHP with the equivalent Revo kit: http://www.pistonheads.com/road-tests/road-tests/v...

Roughly £3.5k for the turbo and map, another £500 if you need the DSG doing at the same time. I would budget to get the intercooler and clutch properly upgraded, otherwise it won't make anywhere near what it should at the wheels, especially on a hot day.

While I'm biased as I've the Golf R on order, the Golf R would seem to be the better starting point if you want big power.

[mackay45]

helix402 said:

I reckon those pesky "Revo" stickers would be a giveaway.

Agreed. When they saw the stickers it would probably be "Game Over".

[mcford]

James Drake said:

We did, and they said this:

"Our stance is that we don’t/can’t offer a warranty on factory parts, and any customer looking to add this much more power to their vehicle does so in the knowledge that putting stress/increasing load on standard components carries an element of risk. We recommend flashing the vehicle to stock (removes all traces) before a dealer visit to avoid any warranty issues, although it would be tricky in this extreme case due to the non-standard turbo. In addition we try to ensure all of our upgrades are able to work within the limits of the factory components and ensure that we thoroughly test the complete package before it is released to the public. This R&D process doesn't just take place in the UK but throughout our global dealer network in regions whereby conditions and driving style are significantly more extreme than those seen in the UK. And then we add further head room on top of that to ensure longevity. As an example we have been beating the hell out of this particular set up for over 12 months, the only failure so far is 3 sets of front tyres!"

Which is encouraging modified car owners to submit fraudulent warranty claims.

[anonymous-user]

Alucidnation said:

Krikkit said:

James Drake said:

We did, and they said this:

"Our stance is that we don’t/can’t offer a warranty on factory parts, and any customer looking to add this much more power to their vehicle does so in the knowledge that putting stress/increasing load on standard components carries an element of risk. We recommend flashing the vehicle to stock (removes all traces) before a dealer visit to avoid any warranty issues, although it would be tricky in this extreme case due to the non-standard turbo. In addition we try to ensure all of our upgrades are able to work within the limits of the factory components and ensure that we thoroughly test the complete package before it is released to the public. This R&D process doesn't just take place in the UK but throughout our global dealer network in regions whereby conditions and driving style are significantly more extreme than those seen in the UK. And then we add further head room on top of that to ensure longevity. As an example we have been beating the hell out of this particular set up for over 12 months, the only failure so far is 3 sets of front tyres!"

Alucidnation said:

From what i understand, is that VAG can now trace the maps etc in the cars, so even if you revert it back to standard, it leaves a flag on the system.

You'd have to be a pretty massive throbber to mod a car to double its stock output then put in a warranty claim for the powertrain.

Agreed, however, i was pointing out that in most cases, flashing back to stock does not remove all traces.

You'll also have to reflash / erase the flight logger in the DSC / airbag system too.....


Considering the manufacturer will have put around 1 to 2 million development miles on the std car, 13k miles of "vailidation" isn't really terribly significant......

[ToothbrushMan]

is the DSG box the same as in the Golf R? the same one that apparently VW say is limited to 280lb/ft.
weve got 380lb/ft here......or is it the 4wd transfer box thats the limiting factor in the Golf?

[kambites]

tankplanker said:

While I'm biased as I've the Golf R on order, the Golf R would seem to be the better starting point if you want big power.

Well yes, but at a price. The Golf is 8k more expensive out of the box so still a good 5k once you've upped the Skoda's power. I suspect there's bigger discounts to be had on the Octavia than the Golf as well.

[eps]

I was just wondering about insurance and found this on their website "There are modification friendly insurance companies out there, just keep looking." can anyone help with this pls?? I'd rather have a chat with someone before getting an upgrade done.

I'd be quite tempted actually as I've got a fairly dull and far too sensible Seat Exeo oil burner at the moment and this could be a cheaper and easier way of making it a bit more interesting as opposed to purchasing a new car. It's way out of warranty etc.. anyway so that wouldn't be an issue.

Hmm....

Great article!


ETA : some good info here on Dealerships and detection of modifications... http://www.revotechnik.com/support/sales/is-revo-s... Note that is definitely _NOT_ undetectable post 2013

Edited by eps on Thursday 11th February 20:22

[carinaman]

I've not noticed that central bonnet styling feature before.

It reminds me of a monkey. Perhaps someone here has already made that point.

[anonymous-user]

Any soundproofing installed?

[Scottie - NW]

This doesn't sound like professional tuning to me, more like whack the boost up bro.

As someone who's had 2 litre 400bhp car for over 10 years now, taken from stock 200bhp like in this case, I've built it properly and to last.

That means, forged pistons/rods, ACL bearing, MHG, ARP bolts, uprated cams, RAS, springs/retainers and so on.

Then the clutch, rebuilt gearbox with strengthed internals, uprated LSD.

Before we even get to cooling, radiator twice as thick, huge FMIC, coolant and oil temp and pressure gauges and so on. Diff oil cooler.

Bigger turbo generally benefit from manifold as well, full exhaust system.

We've not even mentioned suspension/chassis or brakes yet.

If you do it properly you do it once, and can enjoy the car in full on track as well. I wouldn't want to see the oil and coolant temps of this skoda when used properly on track, or even how long the brakes would last.

This article is making me think less of Revo and PH

[gizlaroc]

Scottie - NW said:

This doesn't sound like professional tuning to me, more like whack the boost up bro.

As someone who's had 2 litre 400bhp car for over 10 years now, taken from stock 200bhp like in this case, I've built it properly and to last.

That means, forged pistons/rods, ACL bearing, MHG, ARP bolts, uprated cams, RAS, springs/retainers and so on.

Then the clutch, rebuilt gearbox with strengthed internals, uprated LSD.

Before we even get to cooling, radiator twice as thick, huge FMIC, coolant and oil temp and pressure gauges and so on. Diff oil cooler.

Bigger turbo generally benefit from manifold as well, full exhaust system.

We've not even mentioned suspension/chassis or brakes yet.

If you do it properly you do it once, and can enjoy the car in full on track as well. I wouldn't want to see the oil and coolant temps of this skoda when used properly on track, or even how long the brakes would last.

This article is making me think less of Revo and PH

Blimey, did you not just consider buying a 400hp car in the first place?

[V8RX7]

Is this 1990's ?

Various Audis, Subarus, Nissans and Toyotas have been able to do this for years.