Any sleepers (real ones) for sale?
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DS197 said:
A Mitsubishi Galant VR4 is what you want OP. Can't find any for sale atm after a quick search however. Really like the looks of them, especially in estate form. If I ever find a good one, i'm going to keep it forever!
Two on eBay at the moment Estate
http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/281932155394
Saloon
http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/321971195237
And mine may be on the market soon to if I can decide to part with her.
A sleeper is a car that doesn't get noticed when it's in traffic or parked up. No Recaros, no fat exhausts, nothing flashy, no big-engine-inside badges. It was never pretty or stylish in its day, nor since.
It's the car that turn up to a PH meet, and as it trundles in, everybody looks away and hopes it'll go park in the overflow spaces, not where the goateed-types have parked their just-detailed bank-statements-on-wheels.
It will always be completely overlooked until it does it's thing on the open road. That pre-facelift W124 with OM606 in Readers' Cars perhaps fits the bill. So do the Astra and Citroen.
A hearing-aid beige 190E with 5.6 V8 would be my perfect sleeper.
It's the car that turn up to a PH meet, and as it trundles in, everybody looks away and hopes it'll go park in the overflow spaces, not where the goateed-types have parked their just-detailed bank-statements-on-wheels.
It will always be completely overlooked until it does it's thing on the open road. That pre-facelift W124 with OM606 in Readers' Cars perhaps fits the bill. So do the Astra and Citroen.
A hearing-aid beige 190E with 5.6 V8 would be my perfect sleeper.
Yeah, Galant VR4s are real sleepers! 
A sleeper doesn't have to be rough looking - it can be a nice looking clean car, but one that looks basic and slow.
Here is an older Mercedes that works.
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/driven-m...
A sleeper doesn't have to be rough looking - it can be a nice looking clean car, but one that looks basic and slow.
Here is an older Mercedes that works.
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/driven-m...
AX was great fun, took it down to trax one year and surprised a few nice cars on the way down. Highlight for me was 2 chavs in their standard issue halfords rover, they were vocally jeering me at the lights which in all fairness was the exact appearance i was looking for - a shed of an ax. I let them get ahead before utterly destroying their pride, like most people they were just astonished when we got to the next set of lights.
Sadly it wasn't very reliable, though they were build errors more than robustness issues and i learnt a lot from it. i ended up breaking it and buying a Porsche. It just wasn't a feel good car and i was pouring money into it - even a little shed like that cost me around 15k, though i could do it for a lot less if i did it again. I'd have another one if i had room.
It handled like a go kart and stopped well enough, 4 pot brakes, saxo running gear etc.
Sadly it wasn't very reliable, though they were build errors more than robustness issues and i learnt a lot from it. i ended up breaking it and buying a Porsche. It just wasn't a feel good car and i was pouring money into it - even a little shed like that cost me around 15k, though i could do it for a lot less if i did it again. I'd have another one if i had room.
It handled like a go kart and stopped well enough, 4 pot brakes, saxo running gear etc.
DS197 said:
"A sleeper (US English) or Q-car (British English) is a car that has high performance and an unassuming exterior.[1][2][3] Sleeper cars are so called because their exterior looks little or no different from a standard or economy-class car." All according to Wikipedia.
What did I recommend? A car that looks no different than the rest of the range. Tell me again how I don't understand what a sleeper is.
What did I recommend? A car that looks no different than the rest of the range. Tell me again how I don't understand what a sleeper is.
CO2000 said:
Stickyfinger said:
Well I've got one 
Think it's just an old French car egh ?..... google: SC.CAR système de contrôle actif
and make sure it has this in it
Any more on this? They are fascinating cars Think it's just an old French car egh ?..... google: SC.CAR système de contrôle actif
and make sure it has this in it
Edited by Stickyfinger on Saturday 13th February 14:36
Mate's Honda Civic.
Currently makes 180fwhp with a DC5 S (Jap version) motor and 6 speed box... Soon to be supercharged with around 300-320fwhp... Its so much fun.....
https://vimeo.com/154050117
Can't imagine it being supercharged...
This, this is a sleeper...
Currently makes 180fwhp with a DC5 S (Jap version) motor and 6 speed box... Soon to be supercharged with around 300-320fwhp... Its so much fun.....
https://vimeo.com/154050117
Can't imagine it being supercharged...
This, this is a sleeper...
Edited by Ten Four on Saturday 13th February 15:05
Some good examples of sleepers on this thread, as some have already mentioned.
BUT, for those suggesting a car from the FACTORY, that looks like a normal factory car, with a FACTORY engine....that is a Q car.
the Metro, the Nova, the Civic,...they're sleepers because, they look like a cheap nasty car but they're much faster than you would expect even the fastest one to be.
Q cars are bought
Sleepers are built
BUT, for those suggesting a car from the FACTORY, that looks like a normal factory car, with a FACTORY engine....that is a Q car.
the Metro, the Nova, the Civic,...they're sleepers because, they look like a cheap nasty car but they're much faster than you would expect even the fastest one to be.
Q cars are bought
Sleepers are built
My car will be once finished. It's a mk3 golf vr6 with a 1.8t conversion. I'm swapping the bumpers for un-painted ones, the wheels for Audi pepper pots (painted black the look look me steels) with a plump tyre and de badging it. It's got large port head, emerald ecu, 3" downpipe and exhaust and I also will be fittings a k04 turbo. It should be good for 250+bhp.
ikarl said:
Some good examples of sleepers on this thread, as some have already mentioned.
BUT, for those suggesting a car from the FACTORY, that looks like a normal factory car, with a FACTORY engine....that is a Q car.
the Metro, the Nova, the Civic,...they're sleepers because, they look like a cheap nasty car but they're much faster than you would expect even the fastest one to be.
Q cars are bought
Sleepers are built
Ooh nooo! it's the SLEEPER POLICE!! BUT, for those suggesting a car from the FACTORY, that looks like a normal factory car, with a FACTORY engine....that is a Q car.
the Metro, the Nova, the Civic,...they're sleepers because, they look like a cheap nasty car but they're much faster than you would expect even the fastest one to be.
Q cars are bought
Sleepers are built
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