Buying from someone selling for a friend

Buying from someone selling for a friend

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Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Hello all,

I've saw a car that I like with a good mileage on it. All's well car wise apart from the fact the gentleman selling it is selling for his friend, a Dr who's working in Singapore. He's selling the car from his address which is about 40 miles from where the car is originally registered. The friend was the first owner for the car. He's promised to start a facetime with the friend at the time of the sale and said he'll give me the contact details of both his friends and his own should I have any problems. Is there anything I should be aware of before parting with my cash? I genuinely like the car, haven't met him yet as it's about 400 miles from me but he has all the papers, v5, two keys and old mot's.

Thanks.

HustleRussell

24,632 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Does the service and MOT history look legit? It's not clocked is it? Have you HPI checked it?

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Car comes back as HPI clear, it's got a full dealership service history and records match what the dealership has told me when I enquired about the car.

HustleRussell

24,632 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Who is the registered keeper on the V5? If they're in Singapore, who is going to sign it?

This isn't the end of the world but it is another layer of complication so keep your wits about you.

Roberty

1,179 posts

172 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Selling for a friend, alarm bells are ringing!

Move on, unless it is something particularly rare save yourself the hassle and find something closer with out such issues.

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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That's a very good point, I'm not sure how he's planning on getting a signature for the V5. I'm guessing him signing the V5 isn't the brightest of ideas, or is it illegal?

Edit: The registered keeper is still the Dr, they've owned it since new.

Edited by Sukhy558 on Saturday 13th February 18:32

V8RX7

26,824 posts

263 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Despite the naysayers I always used to sell my mates cars for them.

However I used to offer to take them to meet the mate at the address on the V5 if they wanted - no one ever did.

Firstly are we talking a £1k or £100k car ?


HustleRussell

24,632 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Sukhy558 said:
That's a very good point, I'm not sure how he's planning on getting a signature for the V5. I'm guessing him signing the V5 isn't the brightest of ideas, or is it illegal?
Don't know if it's 'illegal', but how are you going to legitimise your ownership of the car If the registered keeper does not sign the V5C or a receipt of some kind? What's to stop the current registered keeper attempting to claim ownership of the car in future if the only signature you have is somebody else's?

Probably won't happen and it'd be almost impossible for them to repossess the car legally but again, another risk factor.

Of course the V5C could go to Singapore and back within a week and we could be worrying about nothing...

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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V8RX7 said:
Despite the naysayers I always used to sell my mates cars for them.

However I used to offer to take them to meet the mate at the address on the V5 if they wanted - no one ever did.

Firstly are we talking a £1k or £100k car ?
It's a £9000 motor, it's got every extra added from the factory added to it so quite rare as no one ever specs these cars to high standard. The car was bought from the same dealership as it's been serviced at for the past 3 services.

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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HustleRussell said:
Don't know if it's 'illegal', but how are you going to legitimise your ownership of the car If the registered keeper does not sign the V5C or a receipt of some kind? What's to stop the current registered keeper attempting to claim ownership of the car in future if the only signature you have is somebody else's?

Probably won't happen and it'd be almost impossible for them to repossess the car legally but again, another risk factor.

Of course the V5C could go to Singapore and back within a week and we could be worrying about nothing...
I've just had a look at the photo the owner sent me earlier of the V5C and it appears it's already been signed but not dated so I'm guessing the owner has signed the document before leaving.

Edit: This is section 8 I'm talking about as it's the only part I can see in the photo.

Edited by Sukhy558 on Saturday 13th February 18:41

Monkeylegend

26,323 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Have you seen the car in the flesh and inspected it?

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Not yet, I haven't.

Monkeylegend

26,323 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Sukhy558 said:
Not yet, I haven't.
Hopefully you plan to before you hand any money over, along with an HPi check, you can't be too careful nowadays.

daemon

35,784 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Sukhy558 said:
Not yet, I haven't.
Have you googled the guys phone number?

Sheepshanks

32,714 posts

119 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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HustleRussell said:
Who is the registered keeper on the V5? If they're in Singapore, who is going to sign it?
Can all be done online now anyway, but only Mon-Sat 8-6 : https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

I'm sure 99% of sales for friends go OK - most people breeze through life in blissful ignorance of the potential pitfalls.

The only time it's happened to me the seller didn't tell me until I turned up and had nothing to confirm he had authority to sell the car, and he got arsy when I asked for it.

Sukhy558

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Saturday 13th February 2016
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Monkeylegend said:
Hopefully you plan to before you hand any money over, along with an HPi check, you can't be too careful nowadays.
Oh yes, definitely. I'm considering sending over an RAC inspection before I even think about booking train tickets anyway, I've done an HPI check and it's given the all clear. The mileage on records is matching up to what he said and what the dealership where it was bought and serviced from is telling me.

Sukhy558

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34 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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daemon said:
Have you googled the guys phone number?
Googling isn't bringing up much so I'm guessing it's his first sale on this number.

Sukhy558

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Saturday 13th February 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
Can all be done online now anyway, but only Mon-Sat 8-6 : https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

I'm sure 99% of sales for friends go OK - most people breeze through life in blissful ignorance of the potential pitfalls.

The only time it's happened to me the seller didn't tell me until I turned up and had nothing to confirm he had authority to sell the car, and he got arsy when I asked for it.
He's sounding genuine to me so far, haven't really asked him about how he's planning on specifically conducting the sale as I've been more interested in finding out about the actual car today. When I phoned him, it was the first thing he told me about and said he was happy for me to put the phone down if I didn't like the idea of him selling for a friend, he said he wanted to get it out the way before we went on to talk about the car which I thought was fairly decent of him.

Monkeylegend

26,323 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Sukhy558 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Hopefully you plan to before you hand any money over, along with an HPi check, you can't be too careful nowadays.
Oh yes, definitely. I'm considering sending over an RAC inspection before I even think about booking train tickets anyway, I've done an HPI check and it's given the all clear. The mileage on records is matching up to what he said and what the dealership where it was bought and serviced from is telling me.
If you have got the reg you can do an MOT check for mileage etc.

swisstoni

16,941 posts

279 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Have you googled this Dr to see if anything comes up, preferably Singapore related?