Tailgaiting on the Motorway

[lol64]

Isn't the OPs point simply that if you drive too close together in a line of high speed traffic, you have less time to react to sudden heavy braking? IMO most people just can't assess risk competently. They haven't had any training about to drive at speed on the motorway. They haven't seen the results of a motorway crash up close and personal. Therefore they make bad judgements.

[Smiler.]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Riktoid said:

Overtakers who dawdle really boil my piss.

Why should I have to adjust my speed etc because Johnny fkwit pulls out on me to overtake at 2mph faster than the overtakee?

And before anyone starts, I'm in the overtaking lane anticipating to overtake two cars.

Idiot.

This post sums up exactly what's wrong with drivers attitude today. If I'm doing 65, and I encounter a lorry doing 56 in L1, and a car overtaking in L2 doing 60, I go into L3 doing 65 to get past them both. Then back into L2 & L1. If that causes anyone a problem, because they're in a rush, then they should have left home earlier!

Totally agree on all points.


That poor mentality seamlessly transfers to those who consider nothing & no one other than themselves when speeding through residential areas, usually in conjunction with "speed limits are nothing more than an arbitrary number on a stick".

Not for the less than able who have no alternative than to be a pedestrian they aren't.

[xRIEx]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Riktoid said:

Overtakers who dawdle really boil my piss.

Why should I have to adjust my speed etc because Johnny fkwit pulls out on me to overtake at 2mph faster than the overtakee?

And before anyone starts, I'm in the overtaking lane anticipating to overtake two cars.

Idiot.

This post sums up exactly what's wrong with drivers attitude today. If I'm doing 65, and I encounter a lorry doing 56 in L1, and a car overtaking in L2 doing 60, I go into L3 doing 65 to get past them both. Then back into L2 & L1. If that causes anyone a problem, because they're in a rush, then they should have left home earlier!

Are you incapable of accelerating 5 mph, or do you actively enjoy inconveniencing other people? Do you make other people's lives harder in other areas of your life and feel justified because "there's no law against it"?

It's the same principle as someone overtaking at 60 someone who is overtaking at 58 someone who is travelling at 56. You could choose to make the minimal impact on someone else's life, but you feel that your choice is more important than everyone else's choice.

[SlimJim16v]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Idiot.

This post sums up exactly what's wrong with drivers attitude today. If I'm doing 65, and I encounter a lorry doing 56 in L1, and a car overtaking in L2 doing 60, I go into L3 doing 65 to get past them both. Then back into L2 & L1. If that causes anyone a problem, because they're in a rush, then they should have left home earlier!

Idiot.

I believe this is called Driving without Due Care and Attention.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

SlimJim16v said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

If I'm doing 65, and I encounter a lorry doing 56 in L1, and a car overtaking in L2 doing 60, I go into L3 doing 65 to get past them both. Then back into L2 & L1.

Idiot.

I believe this is called Driving without Due Care and Attention.

ERRRMMM how?

[johnwilliams77]

SlimJim16v said:

Idiot.

I believe this is called Driving without Due Care and Attention.

What part of it is he driving without due care and attention?

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TwigtheWonderkid said:

Riktoid said:

Overtakers who dawdle really boil my piss.

Why should I have to adjust my speed etc because Johnny fkwit pulls out on me to overtake at 2mph faster than the overtakee?

And before anyone starts, I'm in the overtaking lane anticipating to overtake two cars.

Idiot.

This post sums up exactly what's wrong with drivers attitude today. If I'm doing 65, and I encounter a lorry doing 56 in L1, and a car overtaking in L2 doing 60, I go into L3 doing 65 to get past them both. Then back into L2 & L1. If that causes anyone a problem, because they're in a rush, then they should have left home earlier!

Do you not realise how hypocritical your post sounds though?

You're attacking his attitude, presumably on the grounds of inconsideration toward other drivers...then showing the same inconsideration by making no effort to increase your own speed during an overtake in order to complete the manoeuvre as quickly as possible and free up space for faster moving traffic.

Don't get me wrong, there's no excuse for tail-gaiting, and you are of course free to drive at a slower speed if you wish. But I would say you are just as guilty of having a poor driving attitude by imposing that reticence on others if it's not necessary. I was always taught during my driving education about the importance of being considerate to other road users and that part of that was to always consider the effect of your manoeuvres on other traffic and it's flow, and that when overtaking, I should do so as quickly as possible (within the speed limit) to prevent holding up traffic behind me.

If you don't wish to do that, then fine, but please don't start attacking anyone who might find this frustrating as having a "poor attitude" without first considering your own.

[SlimJim16v]

johnwilliams77 said:

What part of it is he driving without due care and attention?

The bit about him not caring if his driving inconvenienced anyone.

Edited by SlimJim16v on Sunday 14th February 14:58

[pinchmeimdreamin]

SlimJim16v said:

johnwilliams77 said:

What part of it is he driving without due care and attention?

The bit my quote left out about him not caring if his driving inconvenienced anyone.

Inconveniencing anyone by completing a completely legal overtake ?

It's inconsiderate, but I would just think Miss daisy and get on with my journey.

[mike9009]

Hi

Have the peeps 'who need to get places' ever driven a classic or slower car?

Dropping my van from 65 to 60 is fine. But then accelerating back to 65 can take a while. Driving my MCS means I can simply accelerate pass any slower stuff, thus making the journey more entertaining.

The anger demonstrated for being delayed for 20 seconds and the potential to open the throttle afterwards without any pleasure confuses me.

Mind you driving a diesel Astra must be depressing for a high flyer who needs to 'be places'.

Mike

[johnwilliams77]

SlimJim16v said:

The bit about him not caring if his driving inconvenienced anyone.

Edited by SlimJim16v on Sunday 14th February 14:58

Tell me you're joking please

[WJNB]

MrFappyFappy said:

Get out of the overtaking lane then you fanny. I do a good lot of driving and I drive faster than 99% of all road users as I have to be places; the fking bane of a typical day on the road is VERY POOR land discipline and UNDER ADHERENCE to national speed limits.. Always get the bd 99 year old Dorris in her Jazz/Spark doing 19 in a fking 30, on the motorway and some thick tw@ travelling at 65 in the OVERTAKING lane. Get out if the way you fking morons.

ETA - I NEVER get tail gated, does that tell you something??

Edited by MrFappyFappy on Saturday 13th February 23:33

Take a chill pill, grow up, learn tolerance, lose that superior attitude & realise that you're not the only driver in the world. The fact that you're proud you don't get tailgated tells me that the day Plod spots your aggression is nigh. A hefty fine & better still a ban will follow.

[jogger1976]

Pete317 said:

Gary C said:

Pete317 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Lots of people just don't get it. They thing the outside lane is a "fast" lane. I'm often in the outside lane doing 65, overtaking someone in the middle lane doing 60 who in turn is passing a lorry doing 56. Nothing wrong with that. Then you get people coming up behind and flashing. Can they not see that you are overtaking. Bloody tw@s.

So you're so reluctant to drop your speed slightly to the speed of the L2 traffic for a short period that you simply have to overtake, but, in doing so, you're forcing those who were about to pass you down to 65 for as long as you choose to stay in L3

The words inconsiderate and hypocrite spring to mind.

So are you saying, if you want to do 65, then you are not allowed to overtake ? (Which I don't think you are),

Surely it's all a bit live and let live.

Always be aware of other traffic and adjust your speed to make things as smooth as possible. Sometimes I slow slightly if a faster car is approaching then pull out afterwards, some times I may speed up a little to complete a manoeuvre without inconveniencing another road user, but sometimes a faster driver has to wait a little for a slower vehicle to complete its overtake, just life.

In 30 years of driving it does seem that people are more impatient now. in the past on an mway, if you were held up for a short time, you could make it up by peddling a bit quicker, but now with camera's and traffic, people seem to explode when they loose 2 minutes.

If there's nobody about to pass you then by all means, knock yourself out.
But because you want to go 65, and you don't want to slow down to 62 for a few seconds, don't expect others to be happy when they want to do 70 and you force them to slow down simply because you couldn't wait a few seconds?
What makes your choice of speed more important than their choice?

You know, it used to be the case that if you collected a queue of cars behind you, you might have thought, "Gee, I might be going a bit on the slow side - perhaps I should speed up a bit".

But that was many years ago.

Nowadays, people are far more likely to take the attitude of "fk you, this is my speed, so like it or lump it"

Edited by Pete317 on Sunday 14th February 13:55

Absolutely this. The general standard of driving and level of selfishness contributes to make using the roads more and more unpleasant. To be honest, it's only going to get worse.

[paranoid airbag]

Pete317 said:

If there's nobody about to pass you then by all means, knock yourself out.
But because you want to go 65, and you don't want to slow down to 62 for a few seconds, don't expect others to be happy when they want to do 70 and you force them to slow down simply because you couldn't wait a few seconds?
What makes your choice of speed more important than their choice?

You know, it used to be the case that if you collected a queue of cars behind you, you might have thought, "Gee, I might be going a bit on the slow side - perhaps I should speed up a bit".

But that was many years ago.

Nowadays, people are far more likely to take the attitude of "fk you, this is my speed, so like it or lump it"

Edited by Pete317 on Sunday 14th February 13:55

Get over yourself.

If others want to take that attitude with you, and they are obeying the law, grow the fk up and deal with it you child.

[silverfoxcc]

SlimJim16v said:

Idiot.

I believe this is called Driving without Due Care and Attention.

Slim on a dual carriageway (3 lanes eg the A3)

a lorry is limited to 56 and is in L1
A foreign lorry is in L2 and pulling past him at say 58
My bus is restricted to 60 ( the law) although limited to 62
And i can legally go past him in L3 taking as long as it takes.there is no DWDCA

However i cannot execute this on a motorway as i am barred from L3+ assuming more than 3 lanes. Esp if i know the road and that it will soon become two lanes and going uphill.

[stephen300o]

Shouty shouty swear shout, they should all be killed, shouty shout etc..

[DonkeyApple]

mike9009 said:

Hi

Have the peeps 'who need to get places' ever driven a classic or slower car?

Dropping my van from 65 to 60 is fine. But then accelerating back to 65 can take a while. Driving my MCS means I can simply accelerate pass any slower stuff, thus making the journey more entertaining.

The anger demonstrated for being delayed for 20 seconds and the potential to open the throttle afterwards without any pleasure confuses me.

Mind you driving a diesel Astra must be depressing for a high flyer who needs to 'be places'.

Mike

These are seriously important people though and you are inferior scum with the temerity to be in their way.

[SlimJim16v]

silverfoxcc said:

Slim on a dual carriageway (3 lanes eg the A3)

a lorry is limited to 56 and is in L1
A foreign lorry is in L2 and pulling past him at say 58
My bus is restricted to 60 ( the law) although limited to 62
And i can legally go past him in L3 taking as long as it takes.there is no DWDCA

However i cannot execute this on a motorway as i am barred from L3+ assuming more than 3 lanes. Esp if i know the road and that it will soon become two lanes and going uphill.

Yes, I know, you have no alternative. He however, like most, can go fast enough not to inconvenience anyone, but chooses not to.

[Wilksy288]

Weren't motorways originally made for a more direct and faster route to destinations around the country? If so why do people go slower then the permitted speed? I understand vehicles such as lorries and vans may be restricted by law, and of course classics can't always reach 70, but what about normal cars? If the situation permits a driver to safely be able to drive at 70, why wouldn't you?

[Rawwr]

I believe if you're performing an overtaking manoeuvre you should maximise the capability of your vehicle appropriate for the road conditions and minimise the time it takes to complete the manoeuvre within the confines of the law.

It's really very simple. If someone takes issue with you doing that, they're most likely being a clown.