Mk6 Golf Gti 35 Edition & Remap

Mk6 Golf Gti 35 Edition & Remap

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STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Afternoon all,

Looking at getting a Mk6 Gti, was very impressed after driving one but was a little considered at the power. I've been looking at S3's also so the 207bhp seemed a little low. However for the money the Golf offers a much newer and lower mileage example, hence the reason for looking at one.

Couple of questions....

Does anyone have experience of a Stage 1 remap, should push it up by 40-50bhp. The last thing I want is the car to be effected reliability wise.

Secondly, I've seen a 35 Edition for sale, power, noise etc is bumped up a touch however I've heard it's not quite as refined as the standard Gti. I was impressed with the way the standard car drove and wouldn't want that spoilt by choosing a 35, don't imagine it's that different but would be good to hear.

Cheers

TonyTony

1,880 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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From what I've read in the past I think the Edition 35 engines are the same as the S3 with better running components than the standard GTI. So a standard remap get's that engine quite a bit more power than the standard GTI. (I think).

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Yes, the 35 Edition uses the Mk5 engine, same as used in the R and I think S3. Was thinking you'd get the best of both worlds with a remapped Gti, there aren't many 35's around either.

bucks

292 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Have a look at Paddy McGrath's car of Speed Hunters fame, well modified Mk6 IMO

http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/08/no-country-for...
http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/01/project-gti-re...
http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/02/project-gti-th...

There maybe more posts, have a look yourself wink

TonyTony

1,880 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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STENGUN said:
Yes, the 35 Edition uses the Mk5 engine, same as used in the R and I think S3. Was thinking you'd get the best of both worlds with a remapped Gti, there aren't many 35's around either.
The 35 has a bigger turbo and better parts I think though, its not the same set up. I think that's true for the MK5 ones anyway.

It depends how much power you want to get out of it though, If you just want to have a slightly faster than standard you might as well just buy a normal GTI and stage 1 it. The 35's are quite a premium over standard, use that money on mods! smile

Edited by TonyTony on Sunday 14th February 17:13

b0rk

2,302 posts

146 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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The 35 gets you better brakes and an engine capable of being mapped further. The suspension is identical between the two. In return for this you have to pay the "edition" tax as they're more desirable used.

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Not looking at serious mods to be honest. I was very impressed by the standard Gti but have also driven an S3 and use to have an S2000. So I was just after a little more poke than standard. The remap is really reasonable, £450ish for an extra 40-50bhp which would put it smack in line with the S3. I just don't want problems with reliability!

TonyTony

1,880 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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STENGUN said:
Not looking at serious mods to be honest. I was very impressed by the standard Gti but have also driven an S3 and use to have an S2000. So I was just after a little more poke than standard. The remap is really reasonable, £450ish for an extra 40-50bhp which would put it smack in line with the S3. I just don't want problems with reliability!
If you go to a reputable place I don't think you will have a problem, there are many companies but REVO and APR seem to be at the top for VAG remaps.

Are you sure it isn't £450 without VAT though? My car has the same engine and including VAT its £600 for a remap from all the places near me.


Edited by TonyTony on Sunday 14th February 17:29

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Just double checked....

Superchips - +61bhp £365 inc VAT
AMD Tuning - +49bhp £399.95 inc VAT

TonyTony

1,880 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Ah not sure what warrants the price hike then http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk6/apr-stage...

My local indie is Revo and I think thats £600 as well.

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Hmm not sure, was a little surprised at the price myself to be honest!

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Do they all include before and after rolling road?

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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AMD does include before and after, don't think Superchip does.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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I've heard a few negative reviews about Superchips and what they claim!

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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b0rk said:
The 35 gets you better brakes and an engine capable of being mapped further. The suspension is identical between the two. In return for this you have to pay the "edition" tax as they're more desirable used.
The brakes are same as a standard MK6 GTI...

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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A remap will yield around 300bhp as this version of the EA113 engine reaches this figure with very little fettling required.

I wouldn't be concerned around reliability as hundreds of people are running that kind of figure on this engine without any issue. The EA113 can be a bit gruff [characterful in my opinion] but it's a hardy, well tested unit.

STENGUN

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Sunday 14th February 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
A remap will yield around 300bhp as this version of the EA113 engine reaches this figure with very little fettling required.

I wouldn't be concerned around reliability as hundreds of people are running that kind of figure on this engine without any issue. The EA113 can be a bit gruff [characterful in my opinion] but it's a hardy, well tested unit.
Is that the 35 Edition engine? Same as Mk5 Golf and Scirocco I think.

Gruber

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214 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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For what it's worth I didn't much like my Ed35 in the end. IMHO, the brakes and steering were overly-assisted and the throttle too slow to respond (or perhaps, more accurately, the engine was far too slow at losing revs). My advice would be to make sure you can live with all that before committing.

STENGUN

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179 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Gruber said:
For what it's worth I didn't much like my Ed35 in the end. IMHO, the brakes and steering were overly-assisted and the throttle too slow to respond (or perhaps, more accurately, the engine was far too slow at losing revs). My advice would be to make sure you can live with all that before committing.
Might be a daft question but did you drive a standard Gti, was it the same? I'm guessing a remap would sort the engine response.

MrBarry123

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121 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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STENGUN said:
MrBarry123 said:
A remap will yield around 300bhp as this version of the EA113 engine reaches this figure with very little fettling required.

I wouldn't be concerned around reliability as hundreds of people are running that kind of figure on this engine without any issue. The EA113 can be a bit gruff [characterful in my opinion] but it's a hardy, well tested unit.
Is that the 35 Edition engine? Same as Mk5 Golf and Scirocco I think.
Yes, the Mk6 Edition 35 utilised the EA113 engine which is the engine used in the Mk5 GTI, Edition 30, Pirelli Edition, Scirocco R, Mk6 Golf R.

The Mk6 GTI used the EA888 engine.