Overtaking before the vehicle in front has pulled in
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This is surely a new thing and an amazing example of impatience. I've witnessed this on a fair few occasions now.
Have you experienced the situation whereby on a dual-carriageway or motorway the vehicle behind you starts passing you before you've moved back into lane one? So you'll have your nearside wheels in L1, your offside wheels in L2, a series of dashed white lines running underneath the centre of your car and someone is already alongside you on your offside.
At this point I imagine there's quite a few people already typing out their reply about how I'm obviously taking at least four hours to change lane and that I shouldn't inconvenience anyone who needs to be places. This is categorically not the case.
Have you experienced the situation whereby on a dual-carriageway or motorway the vehicle behind you starts passing you before you've moved back into lane one? So you'll have your nearside wheels in L1, your offside wheels in L2, a series of dashed white lines running underneath the centre of your car and someone is already alongside you on your offside.
At this point I imagine there's quite a few people already typing out their reply about how I'm obviously taking at least four hours to change lane and that I shouldn't inconvenience anyone who needs to be places. This is categorically not the case.
Likewise when in small towns, and a motorist is turning L into a side street and the idiot behind decides (cos it's quicker for him) to overtake as the Ist car is turning, so he is risking someone turning out at the same time (equally impatient) or driving into the oncoming traffic. I just can't believe how peeps a)are so impatient b)lack foresight. I'll probably be criticised for being too slow
V8RX7 said:
I have done it because they've been holding me up for miles and then take 20+ seconds to change lane.
I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Interesting. I mean, you're wrong but it's always interesting to hear opinions.I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Fastpedeller said:
Likewise when in small towns, and a motorist is turning L into a side street and the idiot behind decides (cos it's quicker for him) to overtake as the Ist car is turning, so he is risking someone turning out at the same time (equally impatient) or driving into the oncoming traffic. I just can't believe how peeps a)are so impatient b)lack foresight. I'll probably be criticised for being too slow
I've had many idiots do this when cycling except if I am going straight on the car in he minor road will use it as an excuse to pull out. Whether someone is turning left into the minor road or a car from the other side is turning (their) right into the minor road there's always some idiot that uses that as a sheild to then come out.
Rawwr said:
V8RX7 said:
I have done it because they've been holding me up for miles and then take 20+ seconds to change lane.
I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Interesting. I mean, you're wrong but it's always interesting to hear opinions.I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Fastpedeller said:
Likewise when in small towns, and a motorist is turning L into a side street and the idiot behind decides (cos it's quicker for him) to overtake as the Ist car is turning, so he is risking someone turning out at the same time (equally impatient) or driving into the oncoming traffic. I just can't believe how peeps a)are so impatient b)lack foresight. I'll probably be criticised for being too slow
Nothing wrong with this imo if you're planning ahead and don't see a car emerging from the road in which the driver in front is turning and there isn't a motorbike on your right. It's the only thing you can do in certain circumstances when the driver in front doesn't indicate and slows down at the last second. I've had people so close behind me that they'd just end up going in to the back of me. It's even worse when a person is crossing the road in question and the car infront stops abruptly.Many years ago I had a couple of hairy overtakes where I've been fairly committed to the move and the car being overtaken has suddenly started his overtake. It's pretty scarey having 3 cars abreast and it's only happened on the A17 to/from Norfolk. Probably because back then there were few places where overtaking was possible and the local bumpkins don't look in the mirror.
I'm sure people will explain that I was a maniac and should have sat behind the queue of cars sat behind the tractor while the life ebbed out of me. ;-)
I'm sure people will explain that I was a maniac and should have sat behind the queue of cars sat behind the tractor while the life ebbed out of me. ;-)
I've seen this happen. Car 1 is going 60, Car 2 the overtaker crawls past at 60.005 and takes 2 or 3 miles to crawl past. Meanwhile in the time it's taken Car 2 to finally complete his maneuver Cars 3~50 that he's been holding up have grown so impatient that the moment there's a millimetre to spare they blitz through the gap.
Thing is, people are now so distracted and paying so little attention when they are driving that if they EVER actually move out of the RH lane, they do it with glacial slowness. In fact, often i see people who quite obviously are deliberately slow in moving over just to further in-convenience the car approached from behind.
It's really simple. If there is an empty lane to your left, use it...........
(BTW, if you can't move a lanes width left (approx 4m), before the car behind has out accelerated you, the car behind is either a Formula 1 car, or you're being tardy.............)
It's really simple. If there is an empty lane to your left, use it...........
(BTW, if you can't move a lanes width left (approx 4m), before the car behind has out accelerated you, the car behind is either a Formula 1 car, or you're being tardy.............)
Max_Torque said:
It's really simple. If there is an empty lane to your left, use it...........
This.But the morons don't and there seem to be more and more of them since speed camera's arrived on urban DC's. The attitude is 'the limits 40 so you're not allowed to overtake'. I despise them and their ilk, f
kwits. Always driving at below the limit and clogging up our roads.Max_Torque said:
Thing is, people are now so distracted and paying so little attention when they are driving that if they EVER actually move out of the RH lane, they do it with glacial slowness. In fact, often i see people who quite obviously are deliberately slow in moving over just to further in-convenience the car approached from behind.
It's really simple. If there is an empty lane to your left, use it...........
(BTW, if you can't move a lanes width left (approx 4m), before the car behind has out accelerated you, the car behind is either a Formula 1 car, or you're being tardy.............)
To quote the last section of your post, I will add that if the car behind is tailgating it is possible for them to get alongside before said car has fully moved lanes, although majority of the time its them being complete berks...It's really simple. If there is an empty lane to your left, use it...........
(BTW, if you can't move a lanes width left (approx 4m), before the car behind has out accelerated you, the car behind is either a Formula 1 car, or you're being tardy.............)
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