Overtaking before the vehicle in front has pulled in
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if the car behind is just being a wand and showing impatience and by that i mean taking the piss by sticking the right hand headlight out into full view of my drivers side mirror....i move over at a pace that suits me not at the pace the guy behind wants me to move like yanking the wheel to the left.
when do you do pull in these are usually the tools that once theyve gone past will carry on in the outer lanes even though they arent overtaking anything. they just have to be in that lane with nobody hindering their average progress.
when do you do pull in these are usually the tools that once theyve gone past will carry on in the outer lanes even though they arent overtaking anything. they just have to be in that lane with nobody hindering their average progress.
V8RX7 said:
I have done it because they've been holding me up for miles and then take 20+ seconds to change lane.
I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Agree completely. I've done it with some dim witted fool who is taking literally 20 seconds to wander from one lane to the next after eventually realising they've held up a load of people. I often think that they are slowly moving across as more passive aggressive dickless nonsense, same as holding up the overtaking lane because "I'm going quite fast enough, they shouldn't be going any faster than this".I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Interesting how I've never experienced this happening to me, or tailgating, or any of the other things that people seem to be posting about lately.
danrst171 said:
Too many people don't respect the fact that you can't just pull in as soon as your car has overtaken the car on the inside lane. You have to allow for braking distance too.
That would be impatient undertakers, which I never do. As you say getting a sensible distance past the vehicle you are overtaking and then moving smartly and smoothly over is the aim. It's people who get whatever distance past and then take forever in the actual lane changing move, sometimes spending literally 20 - 30 seconds straddling the lanes to a greater or lesser extent.It's not common, I probably see this once every 6 - 8 weeks I'd guess?
MrBarry123 said:
If I'm travelling at a reasonable speed and I have some numpty plant themselves an inch from my rear bumper because I've slowed them from 71mph to 70mph, I'll often be a child and take a VERY long time to move back in L1.
As I said in my post. I think it's passive aggressive behaviour, like a bitter old housewife having a strop. Practically speaking if someone is driving too close the sensible thing to do is just get over and let them get on with it, pitiful little obstructive power plays just make the roads more dangerous for everyone.danrst171 said:
Too many people don't respect the fact that you can't just pull in as soon as your car has overtaken the car on the inside lane. You have to allow for braking distance too.
But you don't start moving across until it's safe to do so however then GET ON WITH IT !I haven't timed it but I suspect it takes me less than 2 seconds to change lane smoothly.
Rawwr said:
This is surely a new thing and an amazing example of impatience. I've witnessed this on a fair few occasions now.
Have you experienced the situation whereby on a dual-carriageway or motorway the vehicle behind you starts passing you before you've moved back into lane one? So you'll have your nearside wheels in L1, your offside wheels in L2, a series of dashed white lines running underneath the centre of your car and someone is already alongside you on your offside.
At this point I imagine there's quite a few people already typing out their reply about how I'm obviously taking at least four hours to change lane and that I shouldn't inconvenience anyone who needs to be places. This is categorically not the case.
I have places I need to be and Have you experienced the situation whereby on a dual-carriageway or motorway the vehicle behind you starts passing you before you've moved back into lane one? So you'll have your nearside wheels in L1, your offside wheels in L2, a series of dashed white lines running underneath the centre of your car and someone is already alongside you on your offside.
At this point I imagine there's quite a few people already typing out their reply about how I'm obviously taking at least four hours to change lane and that I shouldn't inconvenience anyone who needs to be places. This is categorically not the case.
s like you should be in the slow lane back with the poor people. You make me sick. 
danrst171 said:
Too many people don't respect the fact that you can't just pull in as soon as your car has overtaken the car on the inside lane. You have to allow for braking distance too.
Too many people don't respect the fact that they have a bloody great queue of cars behind them waiting to get past. Countless times I've followed an MLM that, after they eventually decide to pull over, make the slowest possible manoeuvre just to ps off the traffic behind a bit more. Obviously you shouldn't violently swerve in front of a car you've just overtaken, but neither should it take a 1/4 mile to change lanes.V8RX7 said:
I have done it because they've been holding me up for miles and then take 20+ seconds to change lane.
I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
This. Particularly infuriating on roads like the Atlantic Highway in Devon where overtaking lanes alternate and you're stuck behind some dickless dry lunch in a gutless hatchback or MPV who takes the entire length of the 1600 yard overtaking lane to get the move done.I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
V8RX7 said:
I have done it because they've been holding me up for miles and then take 20+ seconds to change lane.
I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Agree on a dual carriageway but not always on a M'way. Scenario: I'm in Lane 2, overtaking a car in Lane 1 with another vehicle beginning to overtake me in Lane 3. I overtake Car 1 and begin to pull in and Car 3 begins to also pull in seeing that there will be an empty lane. Car 3 pulls in quicker than Car 2 and we get the scenario mentioned. I have never had it done to me because unless you are holding someone up, they are in a supercar or you take an age to move in, the situation can't arise.
Agreed though, really shouldn't take anymore than 2-3 seconds to change lane.
MrBarry123 said:
If I'm travelling at a reasonable speed and I have some numpty plant themselves an inch from my rear bumper because I've slowed them from 71mph to 70mph, I'll often be a child and take a VERY long time to move back in L1.
Then YOU are exactly the sort of T**T we are talking about on this thread!!People who think it's "funny" to inconvenience others are idiots. Overtake at a reasonable speed, then pull over. As soon as you act like a T**T you'll get the other person acting like more of a T**T, then you up the ante again, and so it goes on.
If you were walking down the street, in no hurray, and someone came jogging up behind you, would you deliberately obstruct them? I suspect not, so don't do it in your car either you T**T.......
MrBarry123 said:
If I'm travelling at a reasonable speed and I have some numpty plant themselves an inch from my rear bumper because I've slowed them from 71mph to 70mph, I'll often be a child and take a VERY long time to move back in L1.
Textbook really. I love how his name is Barry on top.Max_Torque said:
If you were walking down the street, in no hurray, and someone came jogging up behind you, would you deliberately obstruct them? I suspect not, so don't do it in your car either you T**T.......
That absolutely captures the attitude of people in cars. People who wouldn't say boo to a ghost are suddenly quite happy to be obstructive and downright risk the life of strangers over utterly trivial st when they are in their metal box.Joratk said:
I'm guilty of doing it, but only if I have been stuck behind some dimwit who has been holding the fast lane up - which the roads seem to more increasingly full with. Apart from that, I am a rather courteous driver. 
I'd agree. It sounds like the OP is experiencing others' frustration at his lane etiquette - perhaps not reacting to the speed at which he pulls in at that point, but possibly having ignored opportunities to pull in previously.V8RX7 said:
But you don't start moving across until it's safe to do so however then GET ON WITH IT !
I haven't timed it but I suspect it takes me less than 2 seconds to change lane smoothly.
Not that I'm suggesting you do, because I don't know you at all...but perhaps the person taking a while to move across perceives you as tailgaiting them?I haven't timed it but I suspect it takes me less than 2 seconds to change lane smoothly.
I know I move over slower when someone is up the back of me...
I'm not brake-checking them guys - calm down.
If someone sits an inch from my bumper for no reason, I move over slowly. I'm doing nothing illegal and I'm not the one driving aggressively. Unless the other driver is quite clearly lane hogging, there's zero reason to tailgate other drivers. It's fundamentally dangerous.
I make a conscious effort to move over for all other drivers - more so than I probably should.
Fastpedeller said:
Likewise when in small towns, and a motorist is turning L into a side street and the idiot behind decides (cos it's quicker for him) to overtake as the Ist car is turning, so he is risking someone turning out at the same time (equally impatient) or driving into the oncoming traffic. I just can't believe how peeps a)are so impatient b)lack foresight. I'll probably be criticised for being too slow
This, virtually every day. I turn off a 30mph road in to my estate, and the car behind is often 'forced' in to overtaking me because the driver didn't bother to ease off slightly when they saw me indicating left.MrBarry123 said:
I'm not brake-checking them guys - calm down.
If someone sits an inch from my bumper for no reason, I move over slowly. I'm doing nothing illegal and I'm not the one driving aggressively. Unless the other driver is quite clearly lane hogging, there's zero reason to tailgate other drivers. It's fundamentally dangerous.
I make a conscious effort to move over for all other drivers - more so than I probably should.
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