Jerk in a Merc (Reg T9 TSK) has a dispute with cyclist

Jerk in a Merc (Reg T9 TSK) has a dispute with cyclist

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vtchequers

354 posts

98 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Seems like a case of attempted murder even though cyclist should've stuck to 20mph

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

159 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
doesn't the 20 limit apply to the cyclist as well? He strikes me as a bit of a plonker.
Speed limits do not apply to cycles, he is a plonker though.

London is pretty dog eat dog, but I'd not try that overtake, the bike peddling flat out can barely make up much ground on the cars so seems a little stupid to risk being squashed for little gain.

Cupramax

10,476 posts

252 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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CaptainMorgan said:
Speed limits do not apply to cycles, he is a plonker though.

You can be prosecuted for cycling too fast though, under the "cycling furiously" moniker.

colonel c

7,889 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Comments on LiveLeak not exactly in favour of the cyclist either.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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clarki said:
He just couldn't peddle fast enough, but he's got a camera!! What a dweeb.
He was on the road, not a car boot sale, and he wasn't trying to sell the camera, you numpty...smile

colonel c

7,889 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Peddling his ass on LiveLeak as far as I can see.

Escort3500

11,874 posts

145 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Probably Uphillgardener's shouty cousin. Same confrontational modus operandi and self-righteous attitude.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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What a shock. Cyclist gose for a safe and legal overtake (after several other safe and quick overtakes) Car speeds up to close the gap, in breach of the Highway Code, cyclist must be at fault for assuming that the car would not try and block him... Classic PH reaction to a cyclist.

ORD

18,107 posts

127 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Overtake was simply not available in the first place. Closing the gap is unforgivable, though. Hitting someone's car is also unforgivable.

Basically, when two tts meet!

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
doesn't the 20 limit apply to the cyclist as well? He strikes me as a bit of a plonker.
This



Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Like a lot of riders. I've been through Richmond Park loads and loads of times. Yes, I've overtaken cars as well.

TBH It's 50/50.

Rider thinks he's at the back of the peleton trying to jump the team cars. Didn't really give himself any options if things changed. He made a mistake really.

BUT

Driver did deliberately close the gap. Pretty stupid thing to do since he then ends up tailgating the car in front. So it's not like he achieved anything other than start the shouting match. As mentioned above, he couldn't take being overtaken. Must be hard for him in life generally laugh

And I daresay if you replace "Rider" with "PHer in their car". And the same scenario occurred. You'd see a different outcome on this thread. Think we've all been for that overtake and when alongside, the other driver speeds up as you are affronting their manliness. I also like to think that if I'm overtaken when driving, that the other person is in more of a hurry than me. Maybe their wife is in labour. So not really worth obstructing them is it? Why get caught up in trivialities???

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Dear me. An idiotic move by the cyclist who then seems to try and get into a fight and rides very close to the car he alleges tried to kill him. I do wonder what was going through his head. No sense of self preservation whatsoever.

Bushi

341 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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SteveSteveson said:
What a shock. Cyclist gose for a safe and legal overtake (after several other safe and quick overtakes) Car speeds up to close the gap, in breach of the Highway Code, cyclist must be at fault for assuming that the car would not try and block him... Classic PH reaction to a cyclist.
Cyclist arrived relatively quickly behind the merc, He has no idea if the Merc is aware of his presence.

The Merc has a small safety gap between him and the car in front. Bike hasnt been there long enough to know if the driver holds this kind of gap for long periods.

Bike has a slightly faster speed with on coming traffic.

Decides to go for it, even as he is going to start the pass attempt the already small gap is already closing, still commits.





FeelingLucky

1,082 posts

164 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Wilmslowboy said:
Willy Nilly said:
doesn't the 20 limit apply to the cyclist as well? He strikes me as a bit of a plonker.
This
Speed limits don't apply to bikes, along with red lights, no entry signs and one way systems.

Harji

2,197 posts

161 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Car drivers a *unt, did it really matter that a cyclist was going to overtake? Seeing that he was not exactly speeding to overtake the car in front, so really no ground was being lost and he wasn't being delayed.

When the driver makes a move like that the reactions of the cyclist should not be judged as obliviously the driver created the conditions for this to happen. I'm sure we all sit quietly in our cars when other drivers do something stupid and don't swear or give hand gestures, just because it's a cyclist doesn't make him wrong. You can't judge the cyclist after the event, and apply to what the driver did first and justify the driver.

V8LM

5,173 posts

209 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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The Merc driver may or may not have been looking behind him and so may or may not have known he was being overtaken (I suspect he did). The cyclist, however, ....?

clarki

1,313 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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SteveSteveson said:
What a shock. Cyclist gose for a safe and legal overtake (after several other safe and quick overtakes) Car speeds up to close the gap, in breach of the Highway Code, cyclist must be at fault for assuming that the car would not try and block him... Classic PH reaction to a cyclist.
Cars speed up and slow down all the time??!!

Some cyclists have a point. This one does not. We live in the real world, not highway code world. Even if he feels badly done by there are ways to point that out. If he goes round behaving like that he'll end up another statistic.

996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Escort3500 said:
Probably Uphillgardener's shouty cousin. Same confrontational modus operandi and self-righteous attitude.
This, actually. (Uphillfreewheeler actually).

Speaking as a cyclist.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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996TT02 said:
Escort3500 said:
Probably Uphillgardener's shouty cousin. Same confrontational modus operandi and self-righteous attitude.
This, actually. (Uphillfreewheeler actually).

Speaking as a cyclist.
I think you should (carefully) Google "up hill gardener"

colonel c

7,889 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Most motor insurance policies have an exception clause relating to pace-making or speed testing and so on. The trouble with many cyclists today is that they are constantly doing something very similar by trying to better their Strava stats on public roads. This leads to frustration with traffic and bad tempers when things don't go well.
Sadly it can some times have tragic consequences. I wonder if that was what happened to the unfortunate gentleman who was killed after colliding with a stationery tractor and trailer local to me.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/cyclist_died_after_fai...